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Title: recent chehalis conditions ?
Post by: kosanin kosher salt on November 10, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
cannot brave the long drive for chehalis tomorrow morning , as i went a couple times i the past ten days and both times it was down to a summertime trickle  . it would help tons if i can get a quick " conditions report " thanks all
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Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on November 10, 2011, 07:42:46 PM
Still Very low quite a few chums in the system also
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Post by: patagonia on November 10, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
Was there today, very low, fish were there but for me not interested in much after first light
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Post by: ihatefisheadsoup on November 11, 2011, 12:06:59 AM
thanks for the update, was gonna head out tomorrow but I guess I have to come up with plan B..
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Post by: bigblockfox on November 11, 2011, 12:13:28 AM
needs rain bad. saw 1 decent fish caught and lots of dark coho, weren't interested in anything.  i was fishing a run and had a dark wild buck swim beside me then turn over and die. hope he at least got to do his thing.
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Post by: paul1971 on November 11, 2011, 08:15:48 PM
Was there today it was close to blowing out when I left. Also not many coho around makes me wonder if the natives have been netting the mouth again.
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Post by: steelie-slayer on November 11, 2011, 09:01:00 PM
personally i would go tommorow an was going to but the truck has problems and has to go to the shop, today will bring in a nice push of fish and is cold so it shoul clear.
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Post by: bigsnag on November 12, 2011, 10:04:55 AM
Was on the Harrison on Nov 11,it rained all day till 1pm. When the clouds cleared there was fresh snow on the lower elevation mountains. One can assume that the river would have come up a bit as most of the rain would have be snow and freezing overnite temps would slow down the run off.
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Post by: BCfisherman97 on November 12, 2011, 04:01:09 PM
I'm heading out tomorrow, how do you think the water should be?
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Post by: blacktail2 on November 13, 2011, 06:30:02 PM
Hey guys, anyone got any updates on the Chehalis ? I was thinking of going on tuesday but it doesnt sound too promising..Any and all info would be appreciated.
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Post by: rhino on November 13, 2011, 06:43:40 PM
Was there today. Water was great but not many fish at all.numbers seem low for this time of year
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Post by: blacktail2 on November 13, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
Too bad i was hoping to spend a little quality time with my son on the river, its a long way to go from the island if there are'nt many fish around. Funny my son was talking to a guy the other day that said he hooked 30+ hoes on the Chehailus in three days this is some sort of feat, i was very skeptical about it after all i have read about the lack of fish on the river, how could one guy hook so many while 30 fishermen havent hooked that number ??????? I am hoping it picks up.
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Post by: blacktail2 on November 13, 2011, 07:37:53 PM
I would have to say the chances are pretty rare and could not agree more about the guy being full s***  ;)
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Post by: penn on November 13, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
Ever since the Chehalis river diverted above the hatchery the fishing there has been very poor . That river used to be a premier river for coho , rivaling the Chilliwack . Now at the hatchery there is not even a river anymore . Even fisheries now lists the hatchery channel as separate entity from the Chehalis river .
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.htm
It is a disgrace what has happened to that river . As far as I'm concerned that hatchery should be closed down considering what is happening now .The big question is , where are the Coho in that river going ?
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Post by: bigblockfox on November 13, 2011, 09:38:20 PM
i am not sure what it used to be like, but i had alot of success early in the season on this flow. the last time i was there i saw a alot of hatchery fish in the hatchery canal, verk dark though. lately the water has been low. maybe that has something to do with it.
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Post by: rhino on November 14, 2011, 10:46:29 AM
Too bad i was hoping to spend a little quality time with my son on the river, its a long way to go from the island if there are'nt many fish around. Funny my son was talking to a guy the other day that said he hooked 30+ hoes on the Chehailus in three days this is some sort of feat, i was very skeptical about it after all i have read about the lack of fish on the river, how could one guy hook so many while 30 fishermen havent hooked that number ??????? I am hoping it picks up.

there are some fish and its a amazingly beautiful rive to explore with wildlife everywhere.go anyways! spend a day with your son and have fun. i wish my son was old enough so I could do that with him. he is only 3 months old.
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Post by: FlyFishin Magician on November 14, 2011, 04:47:19 PM
i am not sure what it used to be like, but i had alot of success early in the season on this flow. the last time i was there i saw a alot of hatchery fish in the hatchery canal, verk dark though. lately the water has been low. maybe that has something to do with it.

It used to be awesome!  When the flow went past the hatchery, there was a nice run that was perfect for fly fishing - in fact, I caught my first steelhead on the fly there back in 2000.  In the summer of 2001, I also did great catching red springs on the fly.  Back then, the Easter Seal run used to hold tons of coho within reach of the fly.  Gear also worked well; however, the easter seal run often got very crowded. 

A number of years ago, the river blew out and it now runs along a different path (as we all know).  The Easter Seal run has flattened out and is not great holding water.  But man - do I remember the glory days of the Chehalis - and I know many of you do as well... ;)
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Post by: purplehelmet on November 14, 2011, 07:02:18 PM
Last fall I went there after not having been there in some time (pre-flood).  As stated, where I used to go in, the river wasn't there anymore.  In any case, tons of Coho where coming up the hatchery channel that was super low & clear. Some guys where trying to fish stealthily, others, I heard, snagging.  I saw one guy walk out w/ his limit.  How do you catch fish that scurry as soon as you enter the area in 6" of gin-clear water that is 5' wide?  This is likely why they closed the channel this year.  Where I was looked like a nightmare w/ downed trees everywhere, really tough & dangerous hiking, & I had no idea where the mainstem was.  I had to get the hell out of there before nightfall or else!
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Post by: Preliator on November 14, 2011, 09:28:28 PM
Does anyone have a map of the old river? I'm really curious as to just how much the river changed after the flood.
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Post by: bigblockfox on November 15, 2011, 09:26:56 AM
if you look at google map you can see where the river use to run. look for the old river beds that run near the hatchery.
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Post by: Preliator on November 15, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
That's incredible to see. I can't believe how much it diverted. I wish I had lived in BC years earlier so that I could have experienced the old river :(
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Post by: ihatefisheadsoup on November 16, 2011, 08:43:37 AM
so hows the water level? fishable?
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Post by: bcguy on November 16, 2011, 09:16:20 AM
Was running quite high on Monday, saw no fish around, most of the carcasses had been swept clear by the recent rain...very quiet, except for the sound of the water,the birds in the air, the wind rustling through the trees. The sun was out, and nature was all around me..a truly glorious day.
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Post by: adecadelost on November 16, 2011, 09:23:09 AM
That's incredible to see. I can't believe how much it diverted. I wish I had lived in BC years earlier so that I could have experienced the old river :(

It was an amazing river, but the new river path has made for some interesting fishing as well.  It has eroded land in a very unique way creating some very exaggerated undercuts and shelves.  It creates some unique holding spots for fish and presents some great challenges/opportunities for trying to get your presentation to them.  Plus being a fairly young river bed it is constantly changing, adding variety every year.

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Post by: blacktail2 on November 16, 2011, 09:28:40 AM
I was there yesterday with my fishing pal (my son)... Lots of walking, beautiful weather crisp and clear. I have heard a lot about the Chehailus and decided to give it a go.. For the amount of effort put in was very disappointed. We fished i meant flogged from daybreak till dark and i mean flogged and landed three bright coho and one chum. So for the miles we walked and effort put in it was disappointing. We ran into several other fishermen and only saw or heard of one other fish caught and lots of talk about not many fish in the river, i have to agree. I guess we missed the good or should i say better fishing a few weeks ago. The only saving grace was spending time with my son, the conversation and the sites (absolutely stunning) !!!! and sounds What a picturesque river.. I guess we cant have a bang up day all the time and by the sounds of it we did pretty good although it is certainly not what i am used to and call even a half decent day so i gotta say i am spoiled.. :o
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Post by: DionJL on November 16, 2011, 11:06:10 AM
It was an amazing river, but the new river path has made for some interesting fishing as well.  It has eroded land in a very unique way creating some very exaggerated undercuts and shelves.  It creates some unique holding spots for fish and presents some great challenges/opportunities for trying to get your presentation to them.  Plus being a fairly young river bed it is constantly changing, adding variety every year.

You're right. Though these changes have also made this river extremely dangerous. The undercut banks are always on the verge of giving way and falling into the river, the river has taken down a lot of trees as it develops its new path and created many log jams, and the fresh river bed is extremely loose making it very dangerous to cross. A friend of mine lost his footing last year during a cross in relatively low water conditions and nearly died after being swept into a log jam. You definitely need to have your wits about you as you fish that river.
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Post by: Preliator on November 16, 2011, 06:44:14 PM
You're right. Though these changes have also made this river extremely dangerous. The undercut banks are always on the verge of giving way and falling into the river, the river has taken down a lot of trees as it develops its new path and created many log jams, and the fresh river bed is extremely loose making it very dangerous to cross. A friend of mine lost his footing last year during a cross in relatively low water conditions and nearly died after being swept into a log jam. You definitely need to have your wits about you as you fish that river.

It's remarkable to see people attempting to cross various points on the system. Remarkable that they make it across, and remarkable that they would even consider crossing certain areas. Most of these people I've observed seemed to do it fast and without any real caution... or PFD's, for that matter.
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Post by: Iyekim76 on December 04, 2011, 11:15:42 PM
Hi gang, just wanted to know what the conditions are for chehalis? Might give her a go Monday or Tuesday if the water is not too low. I'm pretty sure there are still a few ho's hanging around. Any info would be appreciated. THANKS!

Mike SL
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Post by: colin6101 on December 07, 2011, 11:51:52 PM
Sorry this is a bit of a late reply but I was up there on Monday and it was quite low still. Walked up from the bridge to the canyon entrance and took this pic.
(http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae119/colin6101/PC050162.jpg)
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Post by: roseph on December 08, 2011, 01:30:09 PM
I was there yesterday with my fishing pal (my son)... Lots of walking, beautiful weather crisp and clear. I have heard a lot about the Chehailus and decided to give it a go.. For the amount of effort put in was very disappointed. We fished i meant flogged from daybreak till dark and i mean flogged and landed three bright coho and one chum. So for the miles we walked and effort put in it was disappointing. We ran into several other fishermen and only saw or heard of one other fish caught and lots of talk about not many fish in the river, i have to agree. I guess we missed the good or should i say better fishing a few weeks ago. The only saving grace was spending time with my son, the conversation and the sites (absolutely stunning) !!!! and sounds What a picturesque river.. I guess we cant have a bang up day all the time and by the sounds of it we did pretty good although it is certainly not what i am used to and call even a half decent day so i gotta say i am spoiled.. :o


hope you don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like you actually had a great day.  Full day of fishing with your son on a river as beautiful as this one with summer steelhead and at least 4 other types of salmon and trout around..how many fish do you need to make all that 'worth it'?
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Post by: Iyekim76 on December 08, 2011, 03:08:14 PM
@colin6101
Thanks for the pic and update. Looks quite low and clear...

Mike SL
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Post by: clarki on December 08, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
Curious how the hatchery coho fishing has been up in the canyon? When I used to fish the lower canyon, many years ago before the flood and the re-channelization, the fishing for hatch cohos was excellent. A buddy (Morty) was told by a hatchery staffer that the hatch coho went up past the hatchery to the canyon and then later dropped back downstream to the hatchery. Now, with the main channel no longer near the hatchery, the hatch coho would have nothing to drop back to.  Wonder if they still make their way up into the canyon?