Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: clujalolo on October 18, 2011, 06:20:56 PM
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Hey guys quick question for what works.
I went today to the tidal fraser and tried bottom fishing with shrimp. Had no luck. Then i threw on a spoon, pretty big so it wasnt to hard to cast with the baitcasting reel. First cast got me my very first coho ever. It was a hatchery and turning red so i released it. Now i decided to change with a different spoon, this spoon was much littler i couldnt cast it out more then 5 ft which then would result in a birds nest. Would it effect anything if i but some weight on the line. So have my weight and a swivel with a 3ft leader or so?
Im to cheap to go buy a spinning rod and reel l
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Add a splitshot 6-8 inches above the spoon
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Ooh ok yeh thats what i was thinking. The splitshot is those weights that go on the line and u just crimp in on? Sorry still learning all the names for everything l
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Yeah, like a marble with a crack
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Just wondering if you remembered to readjust your braking for the weight of the lure. If not that's why you were not able to cast your lure properly.
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you can add weight but it increases your chance of dragging the whole thing on the bottom and snagging up.
you can get away with a really cheap spinning outfit, one I used for pinks this year was 6 bucks at a garage sale, new line and all.
you will likely need a larger spoon if you are casting with a big drift set up but hey it worked once so dont sweat it, add a few split shots and see what works for you untill you decide a spinning set up is in the budget.
and when casting, get a good backswing, have your spool tension on slightly and keep your thumb on the spool to prevent overspooling
this may take practice and patience, it did me lol
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Spinning rod is probably the best option for casting, but I find them annoying to play fish on (personal preference). Ideally, find a light, 9' casting rod and a small levelwind (Abu 4600 C4, Abu Record RCN50, any small low-profile levelwind) and use that to throw spoons. A 6500C3 doesn't cast a spoon very far.
If you're not in a position to buy a new set up, add some lead weight in the form of pencil lead 2-4 feet up the line. The smaller the distance between the weight and the lure, the better, but some fish may be put off by the weight.
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I find adding weight hinders the action of the spoons. If you want to cast small spoons get yourself a spinning rod.
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Small low profile baitcasters, like Shimano Curado 200, are better suited to throw spoons than the larger conventional baitcasters.
For using small spoons in the 1/8~3/16 oz range, spinning reel is the way to go as most baitcasters do not handle them well.
Fishing for cohos sometimes require use of small spoons so I normally use spinning reel instead of baitcasters when I target them.
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1/4oz egg weight bead then a good swivel. Tie the leader line to swivel using perfection knot then tie the small spoon to the leader. Leader length the longer the slower the spoon moves the shorter the faster it vibrates.
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Hey guys quick question for what works.
I went today to the tidal fraser and tried bottom fishing with shrimp. Had no luck. Then i threw on a spoon, pretty big so it wasnt to hard to cast with the baitcasting reel. First cast got me my very first coho ever. It was a hatchery and turning red so i released it. Now i decided to change with a different spoon, this spoon was much littler i couldnt cast it out more then 5 ft which then would result in a birds nest. Would it effect anything if i but some weight on the line. So have my weight and a swivel with a 3ft leader or so?
Im to cheap to go buy a spinning rod and reel l
If you decide to use a spinning reel set up (also known in some parts as a fixed spool reel) make sure you load the new line until it lays almost level with the rim of the spool...... then you will find you'll be able to cast way farther with lighter terminal tackle :)
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Im to cheap to go buy a spinning rod and reel l
Daiwa shock rod and reel $20 @ Army Navy ;D
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Hey guys quick question for what works.
I went today to the tidal fraser and tried bottom fishing with shrimp. Had no luck. Then i threw on a spoon, pretty big so it wasnt to hard to cast with the baitcasting reel. First cast got me my very first coho ever. It was a hatchery and turning red so i released it. Now i decided to change with a different spoon, this spoon was much littler i couldnt cast it out more then 5 ft which then would result in a birds nest. Would it effect anything if i but some weight on the line. So have my weight and a swivel with a 3ft leader or so?
Im to cheap to go buy a spinning rod and reel l
Your paying $1.30 a litre for gas to get where your going.
Whats a few bucks for a cheap spinning set-up?
Sometimes being cheap doesnt add up.
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Thanks everyone for the tips will try it out.
I actually did not know spinning reels were that cheap, i nvr actually looked. Ill take a look theres an army navy really close to my place.
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Daiwa shock rod and reel $20 @ Army Navy ;D
That's the one that I purchased when I started! It worked well for me!
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Thanks everyone for the tips will try it out.
I actually did not know spinning reels were that cheap, i nvr actually looked. Ill take a look theres an army navy really close to my place.
You can get away with using that cheap daiwa combo but it won't last you. Namely the reel will not last you. You will blow out the drag on the reel that comes with the rod...save some money and spend a $100 and you will have a fairly decent set up that will last you many seasons
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Salmon are strong fish typically caught from rivers with current, so you do need a decent reel with a usable drag.
Considering the other expenditures to go fishing, an investment in a decent rod and reel could be a wise investment. :)
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baitcasting reel owns spincasting....
just have to play with it, just have to play it enough to get the true beauty out of that reel
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baitcasting reel owns spincasting....
Baitcasting reels generally seem to have a better drag system, which can be helpful playing bigger fish in the river. Spinning reels are very easy to use, have great feel and can effectively bring in a big salmon, just takes a little more finesse. Both have a time and place imho.
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Yeh thats what i was thinking with the cheap spinning rod, it'll just die after one big fish lol. Ill probably just play around with my reel, just got some new line so it is easier to throw. Might head out to the river today after work.
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FWIW I have caught probably 100 cohos and pinks this summer on the $20 shock. No probs.
Originally I purchased it so my son and nephew could use it without breaking my stuff but ended up using it all summer :D
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FWIW I have caught probably 100 cohos and pinks this summer on the $20 shock. No probs.
Originally I purchased it so my son and nephew could use it without breaking my stuff but ended up using it all summer :D
All I was saying is the reel on that rod isnt very good. Up north all summer I was nailing 10+ pound cohos on the same set up with a buzz bomb, it can handle them fine...but it doesnt take long for the reel too feel kinda crappy, namely the drag.
I dug out the same set up from my garage and took it on the river with me as its my only spinning rod rated for more than 6 pounds...I've played over 30 salmon this fall on it...I do plan to invest in a nicer reel for next season though.
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I find adding weight hinders the action of the spoons. If you want to cast small spoons get yourself a spinning rod.
Put the pencil lead 'inline' on the mainline.
Add a small 2 way swivel next to your mainline.( keeps the lead from sliding down ).
Add a leader to the other end of the swivel and then the spoon last.
Works great for blades too.
I sometimes use a float... put on first.
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Someone on this thread mentioned the Abu 4600c4 as a good baitcaster for spoons/spinners. Can someone recommend a good rod to go with it?
I have used a Sage 2106/Silex combo exclusively, but there are times when I'd like to use a spoon or spinner when warranted by the conditions. In the past, I've tried a small piece of pencil led about 18" above the spinner but I really don't think that this is the optimal set up with the 2106/Silex combo.
I'm thinking of a rod about 7' to go with an Abu 4600. Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.