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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: rahmanjoy on September 12, 2011, 11:46:39 PM

Title: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: rahmanjoy on September 12, 2011, 11:46:39 PM
Almost 15lbs Chinook I hooked and landed last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0X1YofxWKE
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: frozensalmon on September 12, 2011, 11:53:57 PM
bottom bouncing?
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: silver ghost on September 13, 2011, 12:28:38 AM
Nice to see you were considerate to put the fish out of it's misery while you filmed everything and took measurements.

Oh wait, you kept it alive gasping for air while you pulled out the tape measure and did some filmingt. Did you keep it? Hope so after that episode.
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: Juiceboxluver on September 13, 2011, 12:51:01 AM
No float straight pencil lead.....that some mad skillz ::)
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: jon5hill on September 13, 2011, 06:20:43 AM
You're likely to get blasted for this video sir.
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: greese30 on September 13, 2011, 08:00:27 AM
sure great vid... but kill the thing already!
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: Gooey on September 13, 2011, 08:21:42 AM
4 foot leader, no float, yarn...classic flossing gear. 

When he pops the hook out you can see the yarn in the outer corner of the mouth, far side of the fish....it sure looks like it was flossed to me.


Nice work!
  ::)

Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: silver ghost on September 13, 2011, 08:54:09 AM
4 foot leader, no float, yarn...classic flossing gear. 

When he pops the hook out you can see the yarn in the outer corner of the mouth, far side of the fish....it sure looks like it was flossed to me.


Nice work!
  ::)



lol! looks like the work of the god old "vedder pullback" - follow the drift to the end, then yank the rod as hard as you can before the retrieve - OH - I felt a "BITE"
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: Robert_G on September 13, 2011, 08:55:12 AM
This guy is just asking for a beating on this forum.....lol ::)
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: dmoney on September 13, 2011, 09:44:36 AM
Can't be certain that the fish was flossed, but why bottom-bounce the vedder? The comments about treatment of the fish are totally justified. At best, you're broadcasting your ignorance of fishing ethics on youtube.

D$
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: Juiceboxluver on September 13, 2011, 09:57:53 AM
Oh it's certain that fish was flossed no float 5" pencil lead and 4-5 ft leader and just wool Also Rahmanjoy mentioned his setup having 40lb braided main line! Do you really need that on the Vedder ??? It's pretty clear that the fish was flossed
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: silver ghost on September 13, 2011, 10:11:08 AM
Oh it's certain that fish was flossed no float 5" pencil lead and 4-5 ft leader and just wool Also Rahmanjoy mentioned his setup having 40lb braided main line! Do you really need that on the Vedder ??? It's pretty clear that the fish was flossed

another vedder river hero.
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: DanL on September 13, 2011, 10:11:46 AM
Did you keep it? Hope so after that episode.

If you look at the end of the video, the eyes have that glazed over straight stare of a dead fish, so it looks like he indeed kept it. Still, it was kind of painful to watch

I think he overestimated the weight of that fish by quite a bit. ~8 lbs is probably more accurate
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: fic on September 13, 2011, 10:48:23 AM
How does one fish that really shallow water with a float?  It looks like the float would just sit on the gravel without even floating.
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: azafai on September 13, 2011, 10:53:05 AM


either you fish their style or you are committing a sin.   ???
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: Gooey on September 13, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
I think he started the vid after he hooked the fish and it was ready to be landed.  That run is 4-6+ feet deep in most of the run.  

either you fish their style or you are committing a sin.   ???
   flossing is snagging...no two ways around it...so in most peoples books its pretty lame ESPECIALLY for fisheries where the fish take bait and don't need to be flossed.


Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: silver ghost on September 13, 2011, 11:18:35 AM
If you look at the end of the video, the eyes have that glazed over straight stare of a dead fish, so it looks like he indeed kept it. Still, it was kind of painful to watch

I think he overestimated the weight of that fish by quite a bit. ~8 lbs is probably more accurate


Yeah I noticed that, and was praying that he did as he also had his fingers all up in the gills and was shaking it around. I just wanted to reiterate that in case he said he released it, which would have lead to a most definate mortality.

Either way - seeing a fish gasping like that, flopping about makes me sick. Either leave it in the water and take a quick porn pic, or bonk the poor bugger right away.
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: milo on September 13, 2011, 11:59:23 AM
The video should be mandatory in every fishing course to teach beginner anglers a number of things they SHOULD NOT do when they catch a fish.

Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: Rodney on September 13, 2011, 12:10:08 PM
Nice chinook salmon rahmanjoy. :)
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: Tex on September 13, 2011, 12:12:23 PM
Oh dear, that was tough to watch.  Rahmanjoy, I really appreciate you wanting to share your catch, but hopefully you can take some positive feedback from everyone's comments and make some changes for next time you go fishing!

1) If indeed you were bottombouncing with a long leader, you likely "snagged" the fish - ie. it didn't bite.  Read some of Rodney's posts on shortfloating to avoid this in the future.
2) When you land a fish, don't drag it up onto the beach until you're sure it's allowed to be kept and ONLY if you plan on keeping it.
3) If you DO decide to keep a fish, dispatch (kill) it immediately. Not only is this more humane, but it allows you to also bleed the fish, making for a better product to eat.

There is TONS of good information on improving your fishing practices here on this website.  Happy reading!
:D
Tex

I think he overestimated the weight of that fish by quite a bit. ~8 lbs is probably more accurate

Maybe so, but if his tape measurements were correct the estimated weight of that fish would be in the range of 12+ pounds.  Besides, does it really matter if he overestimated it's weight?  We're fisherman, exagerating is just what we do!  :)
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: mikeyman on September 13, 2011, 12:19:15 PM
When will anybody learn not to bother posting a video because you are going to get bashed.

Its just a fish man, let it be.

Ethics are ethics, it takes time to learn the skills to be a 10 % er. How about when you see somebody doing something not quite correct, offer some advice, if they will listen. I do it all the time.

I know when I am going fishing it is to have fun, drink a beer, not deal with the bs politics surrounding it.

As long as the fisheries or DFO continue to mismanage our fishery, the crap will still continue. Don't fry the small fish, go after the big one, ha good luck. Change the rules and how about a few more officers around to enforce it.  Selective fishery my my friend.

Stop putting on bait bans and then seining for an entire week after, wtf!

I am done I could continue but hey somebody will bash me, hahahahha, love the interweb.



Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: JPW on September 13, 2011, 12:33:11 PM
I've got to agree with mikeyman.  There are so many major issues surrounding the fisheries that need to be addressed.  While, I hate seeing how this Spring was treated, maybe some constructive comments will help make sure it doesn't happen again (I doubt the bashing will be taken well).  It's no different then how I get extremely tired of spending a few hours fishing at some of my favourite spots and the only thing I take home is a bag of other peoples garbage!  The reality is that while it drives me crazy and I want it to stop there are much bigger polluters of our rivers and lakes out there.  I often wonder how much more effective groups of people could be if the in-fighting and bashing was removed?  If we fix the big issues there will be lots of time to focus on the smaller ones.  My 2cents.
Title: Re: Vedder River Spring Salmon 10th September 2011
Post by: azafai on September 13, 2011, 01:05:51 PM
I think he started the vid after he hooked the fish and it was ready to be landed.  That run is 4-6+ feet deep in most of the run.     flossing is snagging...no two ways around it...so in most peoples books its pretty lame ESPECIALLY for fisheries where the fish take bait and don't need to be flossed.




thanks for letting me know your personal opinion.
I still can't be 100% sure he flossed that fish.  no need to rant.