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Title: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: Robert_G on August 14, 2011, 10:47:16 PM
I rarely fish the scale bar, but I haven't barbequed a red flesh salmon since a late coho I caught last fall....and I thought I'd try it out for a couple of hours this evening.
3 casts and I had my first one on the beach...5 minutes later I had 2. 10lbs and 7lbs.
Quite crowded and lots of rookies, but most were pretty good about things. Wouldn't call it a quiet wilderness trip or anything :P, but I've got salmon for the barbeque tomorrow.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: kosanin kosher salt on August 15, 2011, 10:12:57 AM
is it still very crowded in the pm? yah know what you mean i personally think fresh sockeye taste is the best taste of the human mouth can enjoy. pan fry with butter and a little kosher salt 
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: Robert_G on August 15, 2011, 10:35:13 AM
The last hour before dark had some decent room to get some nice drifts in...and the fish were still being caught. It's crowded until at least 8pm.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: chronic_topdawg on August 15, 2011, 11:18:20 AM
Ya it wasnt bad just before dark, but man what a hike without a flashlight,  gotta have a couple bear scares to clear the crowd out :o
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: BCfisherman97 on August 15, 2011, 12:36:23 PM
I was out on the 13th, got a few socks and 2 springs.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: Aki on August 15, 2011, 12:45:37 PM
This is the Landstrome bar near the Hope truck scales off hwy 7. It is a 1/2 hour hike down the track and a trail to get there. Parking could be a problem too.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: ali2pali on August 15, 2011, 05:17:56 PM
Had a friend fishing out at Scale today. He got 2 socks and 1 20lb spring. Apparently pretty crowded-even on the weekdays .
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: pepsitrev on August 15, 2011, 09:35:39 PM
 8)wow  have not fished that bar in a long while i see things have not changed over the years. the long walk in is worth it though you just have to be patient with other fisherman newbies and pros alike. tight lines to all and sharp hooks as well see ya out there maybe.  8) :D
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: Robert_G on August 15, 2011, 10:53:29 PM
Yeah, it was a bit crazy, but now that I'm stuffed full of barbequed sockeye.....well...I have no regrets of going there. :)
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: silver ghost on August 16, 2011, 12:50:10 AM
I was out on the 13th, got a few socks and 2 springs.

I hope one was a jack! 1 adult spring per day.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: silver ghost on August 16, 2011, 12:51:28 AM
This is the Landstrome bar near the Hope truck scales off hwy 7. It is a 1/2 hour hike down the track and a trail to get there. Parking could be a problem too.

do they ever tow? I heard there are boundary signs too, apparently 2 guys got their gear taken away for fishing outside the boundary marker
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: BCfisherman97 on August 16, 2011, 01:13:09 AM
I hope one was a jack! 1 adult spring per day.

I never said I bonked  them both did I? First one was bonked (18 ish pounds) Second one was tailed in knee deep water, revived and released ( low to mid 20ies). I'm aware of the regs.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: silver ghost on August 16, 2011, 09:22:26 AM
I never said I bonked  them both did I? First one was bonked (18 ish pounds) Second one was tailed in knee deep water, revived and released ( low to mid 20ies). I'm aware of the regs.

there was a guy there with 2 springs and a thompson steelhead and wayyy more than his limit in sockeye. family of 5 waiting for him on the shore.

there was also someone waiting for him....it was the conservation officer service, they scored themselves some new gear and some fish! LOL they watched him the whole time
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: RalphH on August 16, 2011, 10:05:27 AM
there was a guy there with 2 springs and a thompson steelhead and wayyy more than his limit in sockeye. family of 5 waiting for him on the shore.

there was also someone waiting for him....it was the conservation officer service, they scored themselves some new gear and some fish! LOL they watched him the whole time

If they watched him the whole time why would they not intervene to save the steelhead?
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: alwaysfishn on August 16, 2011, 12:14:16 PM
Oh that's easy. If the DFO intervene to save the steelhead they lose their "evidence" for the conviction of any charges they may lay.

You see, the DFO could care less about a fish. All they care is enforcement which is a legal way for them to show off in numbers of conviction.

I saw some DFO last year watch a guy pull 3 sockeye out of the river past his limit, letting them die and THEN they stepped in.


So you're suggesting it's better to step in, save a fishes life and give the perpetrator a stern talking to.....  and as soon as the officer turns his back he'll do it all over again.....
 as opposed to letting the perpetrator complete his violation so that they have evidence that he can be charged with in court??  ???  ::)
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: Bently on August 16, 2011, 12:51:59 PM
So you're suggesting it's better to step in, save a fishes life and give the perpetrator a stern talking to.....  and as soon as the officer turns his back he'll do it all over again.....
 as opposed to letting the perpetrator complete his violation so that they have evidence that he can be charged with in court??  ???  ::)

If it saves even one Chilcotin/Thompson Steelhead or Interior bound Coho, along with anything else that is not opened for retention, then yes by all means. ::) Like you said, their gonna do it again, so in the mean time why not save the ones they can. By all means fine them if they have already killed the fish, but if it's possible to save the fish, then the warning and/or lesson from the Co should be given instead.

Let me ask you this..... hypothetically speaking of course..... If you were to catch a steelhead when fishing sockeye and didn't know the difference, would you rather have a CO tell you that it was a steelhead and that you should let it go as they are not open for retention ?? Or would you want them to let you kill it and then give you a hefty fine and possibly take your fishing gear and truck too ??

See where I'm going with this??

 It's not all about giving people fines {even though we all know some DO need to be slapped with one} , it's about teaching them the legal way of sports fishing {if you want to call it that  ;D}while still saving what precious fish we have left. You can not be prejudice when talking about certain species of salmon and/or steelhead, all are just as equal IMO, but when it comes to the interior steelhead and coho, it seems to ruffle my feathers more so than others, but that's just my feelings.

Gee, maybe I am being prejudice, but oh well  ;D

Some people {the ones taking too many } just need to get with the program, but there will always be the morons who are nothing but greedy buggers who don't give a damn and keep on practicing their debauchery. >:(

Just my 0.02 for what it's worth
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: BwiBwi on August 16, 2011, 03:11:24 PM
Good to see CO/DFO out there ticketing violators.  Can't let those violators think they can get away with poaching.  If they got away with killing a T stellie or an interior coho, who knows what other highly endangered species they'll target next.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: liketofish on August 16, 2011, 03:33:02 PM
Scale Bar has some of the easiest access for CO (but not you & me). They sneak through the bush at the top end through the houses behind the bush. They have permisson to use the access but not you and me. We walk 30 minutes and risking parking tickets while they take a few minutes & no threat the natives will spay them.  ;D  No wonder they are there all the time. Last time I was there, they ticketed at least 10 guys standing beyond the boundary, apparently $250 each. This is a gold mine trap for some government department folks.Stay clear of it. Drove by it on the weekend on Hwy 7.  From looking down the hill, most guys seem standing way way out in the river in a long line. I guess it is a wader paradise. You don't see that many wader-wearing fishermen even for coho & steelhead season on the Vedder, LoL.  ;D
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: Kenwee on August 16, 2011, 07:59:33 PM
People who abuse their fishing privilege and people who treat the catch and release fish with less than enough respect should be jailed. See how much different things will be if jail time is mandatory.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on August 16, 2011, 08:08:04 PM
People who abuse their fishing privilege and people who treat the catch and release fish with less than enough respect should be jailed. See how much different things will be if jail time is mandatory.

Ya like that will ever happen. Nobody from the Vancouver riots are even in jail.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: Preliator on August 16, 2011, 10:33:30 PM
Ya like that will ever happen. Nobody from the Vancouver riots are even in jail.

The UK are fast-tracking their cases through their courts as well as through Welsh courts. We should take note.
Title: Re: Non-tidal Fraser River, August 14th 2011: Scale Bar
Post by: FishGuts on August 18, 2011, 04:48:15 PM
Bently, I was there, he was told by many people it was a steelhead and not to kill it, he did anyway, he was told adult springs is a limit of 1 he killed a second anyway...so I  agree with the way the COs handled it.  I think he'll think twice next time...dont think he wants  ahefty fine again all his gear taken and possibly his car. Theres enough people around who know the rules who speak up when we see things like this, aholes like this just ignore everyone or want to start something when someone speaks up.