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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: jacked55 on July 30, 2011, 09:30:59 PM
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I was trying to research the regulations for region 28 for the Capilano river non-tidal portion and it said august 1st bait ban? i was thinking of giving it a try and don't want to get busted doing something illegal. Could some one with more experience for the Cap confirm this or was i just mis-reading something.
Thanks.
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Capilano river non tidal is area 2 not area 28
Bait ban aug 1 - oct 31
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just so im totally clear what exactly is considered bait during the ban? is it only stuff like roe or would powerbait or powermallos (etc.) be acceptable?
Sorry if this is a rookie question.
Thanks in advance.
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"“Bait” is any foodstuff or natural substance
used to attract fish, other than wood,
cotton, wool, hair, fur or feathers. It
does not include fin fish, other than
roe. It includes roe, worms and other
edible substances, as well as scents and
flavourings containing natural substances
or nutrients."
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"“Bait” is any foodstuff or natural substance
used to attract fish, other than wood,
cotton, wool, hair, fur or feathers. It
does not include fin fish, other than
roe. It includes roe, worms and other
edible substances, as well as scents and
flavourings containing natural substances
or nutrients."
Right... in other words....powerbait is a no, no.
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in other words, if it has any smell to it natural or synthetic, you can't use it. you're basically limited to wool and spinners - this is to protect the 'summer steelhead'... supposedly...that is, the three fish run of summer steelhead that the cap gets :( glory days are over
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hold on, it says 'natural substances or nutrients'...so if powerbait is a synthetic scent then it would therefore be alright I think...maybe others can clarify. ask your local tackle shop they'll probably know
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hold on, it says 'natural substances or nutrients'...so if powerbait is a synthetic scent then it would therefore be alright I think...maybe others can clarify. ask your local tackle shop they'll probably know
Your best source of information is the Ministry that defines these regulations. Phone them up and they'd be happy to tell you whether Powerbait is legal or not during a bait ban.
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/contact/
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I've asked a CO about this,power bait for sure is bait from him.He announced that if anything ,even the plastic curly grub, smells,it would be considered as bait too.
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I just got off the phone with the DFO office and the official word is that substances like power bait are not required to list their ingredients on the label so there is no way for you to know whether or not it contains anything natural. That being said, the regulation is pretty grey. The exact advice i was given was, " is it really worth being the guy who tries to use it and then has to fight the legal battle and fines that follow". The spirit of the bait ban in the Capilano is to try and increase the spawning of the steelhead which is in extreme jeoprady right now. Hope this helps, i know i wont be using any power bait if i give it a try.
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I just got off the phone with the DFO office and the official word is that substances like power bait are not required to list their ingredients on the label so there is no way for you to know whether or not it contains anything natural. That being said, the regulation is pretty grey. The exact advice i was given was, " is it really worth being the guy who tries to use it and then has to fight the legal battle and fines that follow". The spirit of the bait ban in the Capilano is to try and increase the spawning of the steelhead which is in extreme jeoprady right now. Hope this helps, i know i wont be using any power bait if i give it a try.
Sounds about right
If it came down to it, I would assume that Power Bait would ultimately be decided as "a part of the bait ban"
Whether I am right or wrong on that, I dont want to be the one the precedent is set with
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yes could be an expensive lesson,lol.
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IMO, bait bans on a river only encourage other methods of fishing that are more illegal...
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IMO, bait bans on a river only encourage other methods of fishing that are more illegal...
How so? Please elaborate. Are bait fishermen more likely to break the law than other fishermen?
Don't fear monger... Banning bait is just that, banning bait. Nothing more, nothing less. It's been done on many rivers already and it hasn't encouraged "more illegal" activities, whatever that means.
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i wish i could strap some herring to my plug and back troll the fraser.
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How so? Please elaborate. Are bait fishermen more likely to break the law than other fishermen?
Don't fear monger... Banning bait is just that, banning bait. Nothing more, nothing less. It's been done on many rivers already and it hasn't encouraged "more illegal" activities, whatever that means.
it means harder to get fish to bite = more intentiional snagging. bait ban on the cap is a joke
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As kingpin said, because bait is banned, it is harder - on average - to get fish to bite period. Yes I know - many of you can argue you outfish bait fishermen with flies or wool in the rapids, but when all these bait guys can't do their thing anymore, SOME will just snag fish instead
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It definitely is true !!
I was fishing the Cap on July 28th and every person that was fishing was short floating roe and it was so nice to see everyone ethically catching coho ...... I went down this morning just to have a look and every single fisherman was long lining !! 10 feet between float and weight and at least 3-4 feet of leader !! all you could here was Rip after Rip after Rip !!!
I totally agree that the bait ban on the Cap encourages A$$hole fishing techniques
TH
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Sad but true.
Catching a fresh run cap coho without using bait is tough
and salmon fishing itself is a massive hatchery supported run so it does not make sense.
However, there is a very small endangered run of summer run steelhead still in the river and needs to be protected.
I don't know if the bait ban helps them, but I guess the folks at DFO would have done their homework.