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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: c-pin on July 25, 2011, 09:05:44 AM
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I have been checking the Lower Fraser for signs of Pinks. I have not seen any yet.
Anyone seen any elsewhere ??
John
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Saw a pink killed at the cap mouth this morning. So they are comingggggg!!!
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i have heard of pinks being caught at the confluence of the mamquam river. they're on there way ;D ;D ;D
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I have heard that the Pinks coming down the west coast this year are BIG, like 7-8 lb. Can anybody corroborate that report?
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I had heard the same thing in regards to sizes of 7-8lb (not confirmed). I guess we will have to wait and see. Campbell river had some of the biggest pinks I had ever seen last year, although I do not know if there is any correlation between the two runs.
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The Fraser is about a month away from having the start of the run. Patience.
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I have heard that the Pinks coming down the west coast this year are BIG, like 7-8 lb. Can anybody corroborate that report?
I think someone has been waxing lyrical/is drenched in hyperbole/FOS.
The ones I've seen For Sale have been midgets as per SOP and in my whole long life I have seen exactly one (1) Pink that was the maybe 7 pounds.
WCVI is already lousy with them and they'll be here soon enough.
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There is a massive push coming around the bottom of Vancouver Island.
The San Juan test fishing caught 584 pinks on July 23rd.
There were 85 caught there in on the same date in 2009.
You can see the data on the Pacific Salmon Commission's website: http://www.psc.org/info_testfishing_summaries.htm
Keep in mind that most of the pinks come down the inside - I haven't had time to check the numbers for area 13 (Johnston Strait).
If the fish are in the San Juans then they can be just a few days away.
I may start looking next week.
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Thanks everyone.
I have spoken to some Commercial guys who claim that about 1 month ago the Pinks were in abundance between Vancouver Island and the Queen Charlottes. They said it's going to be a good run. Much better than in years past.
I checked my Fishing Journal, and I was catching Pinks in late July in 2007. I didn't fish much for Pinks in 2009 as I had a young child, and my wife was pregnant again. So, ... I'm looking forward to getting my kids into some fish this year.
Cheers, John
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No pinks in the Eve, river north of Sayward. My fishing buddy was in Sayward on Saturday and all that came by were small schools of sockeye with maybe a few pinks mixed in. No fish in the Campbell Quinsam system yet. Most pinks for the Fraser seem to be on the outside of Vancouver Island. Another week and we should be seeing the pinks return to the Campbelll Quinsam. Fraser pinks are big. A guide friend caught a 13lb. pink. Tight lines
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I remember last pink run people freaking out they werent returning early enough. But if memory severs well first or second week of september is when it gets hot in the lower fraser
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Theres pinks being caught off of otter point, a little west of Sooke on vancouver island. They are in the area in pretty big numbers.
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and in my whole long life I have seen exactly one (1) Pink that was the maybe 7 pounds.
Two years ago I was shocked at the small size of the Pinks in the Campbell, 2-3 lb typical. I recall runs long past (Keogh, Tsolum) where perhaps 5 lb was the norm and 8 lb and larger common. I have heard the rumours of big fish coming down the west coast this year, I have also spoken to a commercial fisherman who reported catching some of the smallest Pinks he had ever seen, ~ 1 lb. Time will tell.
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I'll be fishing the Pender bluffs this weekend. 2009 was an awesome year for Pinks there. 2011 should easily top it!
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Of the 5 pinks I've seen hooked this year, 2 have been very small like 1-2lbs, both does. And 3 males have been decent size, 4-5lbs. This is in the salt. They'll pack on some size when they hit freshwater.
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1 or 2 lbs pinks? great now I do not have to use 25lbs test leader, short stubby 6' tuna rod, 5/0 Big Game Penn reel. LOL.
5wt fly rod sound good.
Silex-user
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My 6wt. has always done nicely for Pinks.
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Of the 5 pinks I've seen hooked this year, 2 have been very small like 1-2lbs, both does. And 3 males have been decent size, 4-5lbs. This is in the salt. They'll pack on some size when they hit freshwater.
This I don't understand-how can a fish add weight when it's stopped feeding?
Please explain.
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Most of the pinks i've caught this week have been much larger than previous years. I hope it stays this way!
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This I don't understand-how can a fish add weight when it's stopped feeding?
Please explain.
I missed that one LOL
mr.p where do you get the idea that salmon feed once they hit freshwater? Please enlighten us.
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I missed that one LOL
mr.p where do you get the idea that salmon feed once they hit freshwater? Please enlighten us.
They MUST eat eat in fresh water! I mean why else would they want to floss unless they are eating? I know I sure don't! ;)
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A hump would be packing on some size...yes...no?
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He's talking about pinks he saw caught in the salt, he doesn't mention where, he's saying the average size will have increased by the time they reach the fresh water. The pinks he saw caught could well still be feeding depending on where they were and where they might be headed. Just missing a past tense there.
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"Of the 5 pinks I've seen hooked this year, 2 have been very small like 1-2lbs, both does. And 3 males have been decent size, 4-5lbs. This is in the salt. They'll pack on some size when they hit freshwater."
He said when they hit fresh water.... Not WHILE in fresh water...
That said I do wonder how the hump thing works with them, as they don't really have much in the salt
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A hump would be packing on some size...yes...no?
Would imagine it would be hard for them to gain weight when they have stopped feeding without taking on water by osmosis or something :)
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A hump would be packing on some size...yes...no?
Bingo smartasses..... Haha
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Here is some info that I have read. I didn't know about the salt gland to extract the salt. Learnt something new today! Very interesting!
"Salmon stop feeding as they enter fresh water. Their stomach is no longer needed and it begins to disintegrate internally - leaving more room for the developing eggs and sperm. They begin living off the stored fat in their tissues that has been accumulating during their life in the ocean. When this starts the flesh of the salmon begins to lack flavor, becomes pale in color and is mushy in texture. Most salmon used for food are caught in the ocean where they have the best flavor, color and texture before they start upstream. Salmon change their physiology before entering fresh water. In the ocean their bodies tend to dehydrate in the seawater. They constantly drink seawater, using a salt gland to extract the salt, so that they do not get dehydrated. The opposite is true in fresh water, their bodies tend to take on water and become bloated. So, in fresh water salmon stop drinking and begin to process large amounts of urine to rid their bodies of the extra water."
I have found that generally, when the males start developing their humps they start to thin. Maybe it is the weight transferring to different areas in the body? I caught a male Sockeye (I know not a pink) last year on Stamp River on the fly that was spawned out. I was shocked that the thing still fought even though it was ready to die. It had a massive hump on the back but was SO thin!
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The Kitimat is paved with Pinks right now.
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Hump, milt and roe add weight.
Notice how the world record pinks are caught in freshwater...not salt...
I missed that one LOL
mr.p where do you get the idea that salmon feed once they hit freshwater? Please enlighten us.
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Thanks for tactfully educating those people who were almost trying to make fun of your statement.
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This I don't understand-how can a fish add weight when it's stopped feeding?
Please explain.
I missed that one LOL
mr.p where do you get the idea that salmon feed once they hit freshwater? Please enlighten us.
Hump, milt and roe add weight.
Notice how the world record pinks are caught in freshwater...not salt...
I think others were not questioning that biggest pink salmon are found in freshwater, but rather your suggestion that pink salmon feed in freshwater, which is probably a misunderstanding.
Pink salmon, like all other Pacific salmon species, feed as much as they can prior to entering their natal streams. At this stage, it makes them the fattest during the entire life, so they can extract energy from their body to complete the upstream journey. During the in-river stage, no feeding occurs as the abdominal cavity space is taken up by milt sacs and eggs. As they move upstream, their body weight starts to decline steadily as that energy is being harvested from body fat.
The conspicuous hump, which is only developed in males, is what biologists call sexual dimorphism, which separates the males and females at the spawning stage and plays a role in spawning success. Similar phenomena are found in other salmon species, fang-like teeth on male chum salmon is a good example. I am not familiar with the exact physiological process of this development, but my guess would be that it is influenced by hormones.
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The conspicuous hump, which is only developed in males, is what biologists call sexual dimorphism, which separates the males and females at the spawning stage and plays a role in spawning success.
I have also heard another theory for the hump development .... males are much more likely to be captured by predators in fresh water. Invariably when you see a picture of a male pink in a bears mouth, the teeth are in it's back. I thought is was an interesting survival strategy; or maybe just coincidence :)
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Well, it seems I've answered my own question.
I saw a big school in the Lower Fraser (Triangle Road / Deas Island Park) today. They were porpoising their way up stream, with the odd jumper.
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Well, it seems I've answered my own question.
I saw a big school in the Lower Fraser (Triangle Road / Deas Island Park) today. They were porpoising their way up stream, with the odd jumper.
Any guess where these fish are heading? Maybe the Harrison or the Thompson? Definitely too early for the Vedder, but Mother Nature could make me a liar.
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Well, it seems I've answered my own question.
I saw a big school in the Lower Fraser (Triangle Road / Deas Island Park) today. They were porpoising their way up stream, with the odd jumper.
What time was that? Pretty early to be seeing pinks coming in but I have seen the odd small schools in past early August. None of the Fraser test fisheries have captured any pinks yet. I was going to say that maybe they were sockeye, but if they were porpoising close to shore, then they were likely to be pinks.
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These fish were right in the middle of the channel. It was around 12:30 - 1:00 pm.
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These fish were right in the middle of the channel. It was around 12:30 - 1:00 pm.
Sounds like socks.
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Based on 2009 numbers and current test fisheries, I am estimating the bulk of the run in the lower river starting August 23rd.
They look about a week early.
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Heres a couple of bad boyz I tied up ;D
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Jigs do work. I have witnessed the magic in Campbell River. Btw, nice jigs.
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Thnx Tee! yah I used them in 2009 and it was a massacre , my pref. is jigs I never did well on spoon N spinners
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Thnx Tee! yah I used them in 2009 and it was a massacre , my pref. is jigs I never did well on spoon N spinners
Just don't forget to pinch those barbs.
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For shizzo my friend
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Took a drive out to Cates, mouth of the Cap and Furry Creek tonight for something to do. Had my gear in the vehicle but I didn't see a fish... Talked to a few guys at each and no fish.
Is it just me or are the "dog signs" at Cates really messed up and contradicting each other?
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Those jigs look like they will do amazing with pinks. Use them in the vedder and you will likely be into some other salmon as well. The first time I tried a pink/purple marabou jig in the vedder I landed three different salmon species within half an hour.
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nice jigs, what size hook u use?
i went to furry creek and cap and saw no risers as well, the other day.
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Jims Jigs 3/8 1X strong
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Been checking out the lower part of the river over the last couple of days - nothing yet.
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Checked out dump bar today. One couple fishing, no signs of pinks.
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I tried casting a buzz bomb from Ambleside dock the other day out of boredom. No pinks there, but there was a small fish (about 6 inches)
that chased the lure to the surface - I wonder what it is