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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: JAwrey on June 15, 2011, 11:52:55 AM

Title: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: JAwrey on June 15, 2011, 11:52:55 AM

Was cruising the internet today (what else is new) and I came across a video/website for a centerpin reel.  They are advertising it as useful for trout/grayling...I kind of want to give one of these a shot, the price is quite low (I think around $45) but was wondering what kind of rod to use??  Could I just use a re-corked fly rod??  Thoughts are appreciated...this is as much discussion as it is a reality.

John
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: nickredway on June 15, 2011, 12:59:37 PM
I've got a mini pin that I'm going to try for that very purpose, was actually thinking of using it as a fly reel for nymphming with a floating line and / or indicator and using it to play out line and extend the drift. Will let you know how it works.
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: JAwrey on June 15, 2011, 01:26:47 PM
I've got a mini pin that I'm going to try for that very purpose, was actually thinking of using it as a fly reel for nymphming with a floating line and / or indicator and using it to play out line and extend the drift. Will let you know how it works.

Sounds like a blast, Nick!  I was thinking of using mine in a very scaled-down manner, using small Thill floats for little creeks and the like.  If you used a pack rod, it would be a very portable system.

John
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: Geff_t on June 15, 2011, 05:31:06 PM
Use a fly rod. Take it to a rod builder and have them extend the fighting butt. I did just that with a 10wt fly rod and it works great. The rod builder I use is Whonnock Joe and he hand makes the extended butts. He makes an amazing 3 piece butt section so that the fighting butt can be made into 3 different lengths.
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: BNF861 on June 15, 2011, 06:57:02 PM
I was also going to suggest an extention to the butt of a fly rod or possibly a trout Spey rod such as an admunson 1134.

Do you have a link to the reel?
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: JAwrey on June 16, 2011, 12:50:52 AM
http://mikestackleshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=30&osCsid=11edea67329eb2f8ed5b6892a2df142a

^Link to the reel

This would be for very small trout in small streams...I was thinking like...five weight???  Or is that too soft?

J
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: JAwrey on June 16, 2011, 09:59:17 AM
Use a fly rod. Take it to a rod builder and have them extend the fighting butt. I did just that with a 10wt fly rod and it works great. The rod builder I use is Whonnock Joe and he hand makes the extended butts. He makes an amazing 3 piece butt section so that the fighting butt can be made into 3 different lengths.

Jeff, how much was this if you don't mind me asking?  You can email me the number if that makes you more comfortable.

John
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: DionJL on June 16, 2011, 01:45:49 PM
That is a 5" diameter reel, which is significantly bigger than what most people use for coho, steelhead, etc.
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: JAwrey on June 16, 2011, 05:28:10 PM
That is a 5" diameter reel, which is significantly bigger than what most people use for coho, steelhead, etc.

This is true, but the price is right for a purely experimental pursuit  ::)
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: Geff_t on June 18, 2011, 11:23:33 PM
Jeff, how much was this if you don't mind me asking?  You can email me the number if that makes you more comfortable.

John

 The extension was just under $100 and worth every penny. I have got a 10' 6wt that will be going in to have the same thing done.
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: slurpie on June 19, 2011, 10:52:30 AM
This reel looks very much like the Australian made cp "KP".  The spool of the KP was made of a lightweight material, perhaps carbon fiber, mounted on a steel foot and pin.  It is super light and great to use.  When it worked, it worked extremely well.  However, a word caution.  It you ever overrun, you might be cursing the day you bought this reel.  Because it doesn't have a back plate, the overrun tends to wrap around the inside center pin and bind, making untangling a nightmare!  It needs to be cast with much attention.  Some people have used the KP with much success.  Others have cursed it.  (But of course, experienced cp fishers never overrun :D)  The lack of a back plate on this mini-pin makes it super light and function very much like the KP.  Nice to fish but it could also make for a very frustrating day.  I have had much fun with my KP but have since retired it to my collection.  My 2c.
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: slurpie on June 19, 2011, 10:55:19 AM
Use a fly rod. Take it to a rod builder and have them extend the fighting butt. I did just that with a 10wt fly rod and it works great. The rod builder I use is Whonnock Joe and he hand makes the extended butts. He makes an amazing 3 piece butt section so that the fighting butt can be made into 3 different lengths.

Hey Geff T
Do you have a pic of the work done on the fly rod?  Not an easy task to do properly.  Sounds very interesting.  Or perhaps a link to his site if he has one?
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: kingpin on June 19, 2011, 04:02:37 PM
This reel looks very much like the Australian made cp "KP".  The spool of the KP was made of a lightweight material, perhaps carbon fiber, mounted on a steel foot and pin.  It is super light and great to use.  When it worked, it worked extremely well.  However, a word caution.  It you ever overrun, you might be cursing the day you bought this reel.  Because it doesn't have a back plate, the overrun tends to wrap around the inside center pin and bind, making untangling a nightmare!  It needs to be cast with much attention.  Some people have used the KP with much success.  Others have cursed it.  (But of course, experienced cp fishers never overrun :D)  The lack of a back plate on this mini-pin makes it super light and function very much like the KP.  Nice to fish but it could also make for a very frustrating day.  I have had much fun with my KP but have since retired it to my collection.  My 2c.

KP's are made in South Africa.......
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: DionJL on June 19, 2011, 11:47:33 PM
KP's are made in South Africa.......

And the spools isn't Carbon Fibre it's plastic.
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: Ken D on March 29, 2013, 11:02:19 AM
Hope no-one minds the topic bump. I spotted a post _in_ the thread RE Mr. Joe's build on a variable butt extension. If the owner of this mod. catches this bump, (or anyone else knows what Mr. Joe did, to make a variable butt bit) can you advise what he did to make the extension variable. Thanks, Ken.

(edit: I was out and about on the web on a general search for something totally different when the FWR thread got a hit, so in I came)
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: GENERAL-SHERMAN on March 31, 2013, 06:19:27 PM
I use a 4 inch milner and 10 6" st croix 1-4 line rating for trout pinning... caught everything from trout to small spring jacks. good on little ditches and great for cap coho and trout in the 10 to 20 range. got a sage 1106 LL brown blank that is waiting to be tied for this very purpose as well ;D
Title: Re: "Mini-pin" for trout
Post by: Pin-nook on March 31, 2013, 07:53:27 PM
The bearing version of that 3-3/4" Milner that Kingpin had along with a Sage 1106LLB would be a sweet drift set up for creek fishing for trout and even Bluebacks but the rod General-Sherman was using for Bluebacks with a 3-3/4" or 4" CP reel would be good to!