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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: drh on February 13, 2011, 06:34:53 PM
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Hi FWR Members,I mentioned to my fishin buddy Scott Saturday that the derby on the web site I'm on is likely cancelled,and he said he'd be okay with me posting a ivite here.
It's being held on March 12 this year so as not to overlap with the Outdoor show. He asks for $25.00 pre-paid before the derby day and for that you'll receive a derby ball cap when you show up at the weigh in by 4 p.m and 3 top prizes for the 3 Biggest fish will be awarded if your one of the lucky ones.Then about 40 random draw prizes based on derby ticket #s
If interested send me a pm or email me at>drh1962@gmx.com< and I'll give you Scott's cell #
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Not me.
Fishing derbies are a disgrace to our sport. They don't contribute anything to the welfare of our rivers or fish - if anything, there is a lot more garbage around after a derby day. >:(
How about we all show up at the next cleanup instead and do some fishing afterwards?
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I would if it were the next day, sundays are my only river days :(
what kinda prizes is there?
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Not me.
Fishing derbies are a disgrace to our sport. They don't contribute anything to the welfare of our rivers or fish - if anything, there is a lot more garbage around after a derby day. >:(
How about we all show up at the next cleanup instead and do some fishing afterwards?
Absolutely fishing derby's are evil.. imagine the nerve of anglers wanting to get together and have a great time steelhead fishing and promoting the sport in a positive manner. I particularly dislike the derby's that donate to worthy fishing related charities from the proceeds. Any angler that enters a derby is clearly a disgrace to fishing. ::)
Just when I think I have heard it all....
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Absolutely fishing derby's are evil.. imagine the nerve of anglers wanting to get together and have a great time steelhead fishing and promoting the sport in a positive manner. I particularly dislike the derby's that donate to worthy fishing related charities from the proceeds. Any angler that enters a derby is clearly a disgrace to fishing. ::)
Just when I think I have heard it all....
If all the money is going towards prizes and none to conservation or restoration projects I agree with Milo. The killing of all the fish would be just to pound some chests and get some prizes.
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I have to agree with Milo and bbronswyk2000, if the monies collected are going back into the resource that's great otherwise it's just feeding egos.
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Absolutely fishing derby's are evil.. imagine the nerve of anglers wanting to get together and have a great time steelhead fishing and promoting the sport in a positive manner. I particularly dislike the derby's that donate to worthy fishing related charities from the proceeds. Any angler that enters a derby is clearly a disgrace to fishing. ::)
Just when I think I have heard it all....
Iin the original post there is no mention whatsoever of moneys going to any fishery enhancement projects or to the resource in any way.
It all seems to be about prizes prizes prizes...so that the guys can snap a few pics or videos, pump their fists and pound their chests. ::)
A disgrace I tell you.
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Sounds like fun, I'm hoping to make it out.
Curious why others are so opposed to a fishing derby?, I mean what is wrong with a little friendly competition? Maybe it's me but I've always enjoyed challenging others in sport whether that be baseball, hockey, or fishing. Call me crazy but I don't consider hitting a homerun, scoring a goal or catching biggest fish to be chest pounding at all.
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I don't have a problem with a derby. It's not as if they're keeping wild steelhead.
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Sounds like fun, I'm hoping to make it out.
Curious why others are so opposed to a fishing derby?, I mean what is wrong with a little friendly competition? Maybe it's me but I've always enjoyed challenging others in sport whether that be baseball, hockey, or fishing. Call me crazy but I don't consider hitting a homerun, scoring a goal or catching biggest fish to be chest pounding at all.
In those sports your not killing anything plus it does not take money to keep the sport going. This fishery that everyone enjoys on the Vedder or any other hatchery enhanced river takes money to make it sustainable. The more money to the hatcheries and restoration means more fishing opportunities. Now if their is no money than that means no fish.
I played competitive sports most of my life. To me fishing is not a competitive sport. Its a relaxing hobby that I enjoy with friends.
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Have I read this right?
Derbies are bad because A) The participants leave a mess on the river
B) Hatchery steelhead are killed
C) No moneys are given to the hatchery to help with the rearing costs associated with steelhead.
Absolute rubbish, how do you guys come up with this stuff?
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Have I read this right?
Derbies are bad because A) The participants leave a mess on the river
B) Hatchery steelhead are killed
C) No moneys are given to the hatchery to help with the rearing costs associated with steelhead.
Absolute rubbish, how do you guys come up with this stuff?
yes all good points. But consider the following
A)a river cleanup could be held the next day, or everyone that brings back a bag of garbage from the river get a consolation prize.
B)hatchery steelhead are a put and take fish they are ment to be kept, even tho i release 9 out of 10 hatcheries.
C)50% of procedes can go to the hatchery or other fish enhancing cause and the other 50 % could be for prizes. This money is from your entry fees.
I have been im many derbies and they have all gone great, and most of them I have trohies from sitting on my shelf, which cost little to make and is a good alternmative instead of prizes.
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Absolute rubbish, how do you guys come up with this stuff?
We look to you for inspiration.
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Lucky I think with points B and C you have described 90% of vedder anglers
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And to add...being a March 12th derby lets not forget that the remaining run of wild fish will be in full swing at this point in the season and the man made hatchery fish will be winding down. Our beautiful wild char will be showing up for the fry feast & don't need the extra pressure brought on by a for-profit meat derby.
With warm weather & longer days the river is already a very busy place at this time of year, especially on the weekend...why invite another 100 plus anglers to an already overcrowded ecosystem...can our remaining wild fish take the added pressures associated with derbies?
I feel bad for those steelhead anglers that can only get out on weekends. Finally a chance to hit the river and Whammo! There's a derby on your day off...wtf!!
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I don't think a fishing derby on the Vedder would have any more impact by anglers than a nice sunny long weekend would.
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And to add...being a March 12th derby lets not forget that the remaining run of wild fish will be in full swing at this point in the season and the man made hatchery fish will be winding down. Our beautiful wild char will be showing up for the fry feast & don't need the extra pressure brought on by a for-profit meat derby.
With warm weather & longer days the river is already a very busy place at this time of year, especially on the weekend...why invite another 100 plus anglers to an already overcrowded ecosystem...can our remaining wild fish take the added pressures associated with derbies?
I feel bad for those steelhead anglers that can only get out on weekends. Finally a chance to hit the river and Whammo! There's a derby on your day off...wtf!!
With this kind of statement one would think that derby participants only fish when there are derbies? I would hazard a guess to say that most participants would be fishing the river anyways regardless of whether or not a derby is taking place.
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If the pro-derby crowd still isn't convinced why a steelhead derby isn't a good thing for the fish (no derby is, really), so be it.
Pay your fee, take part and continue being happy.
Those of us who have come to realize the negative impact of yet another non-conservation oriented derby will stay off the river that day.
Peace.
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This thread is hilarious!
Reasons that fishing derbys should be banned:
... "fishing derby's are a disgrace"
... "they don't contribute anything to the welfare of the river or the fish"
... "The killing of all the fish would be just to pound some chests and get some prizes"
... "it's just feeding egos"
... "It all seems to be about prizes prizes prizes"
Can I add?
... "you'll just end up taking the steelhead home and eating it!" ;D ;D
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This thread is hilarious!
this is hilarious. how can this derby be so wrong and hated by most, while the other derby thread is a totally a different story?
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this is hilarious. how can this derby be so wrong and hated by most, while the other derby thread is a totally a different story?
Maybe, because this derby is named after a large wet rodent with a worm like tail?
Don't know if I would want to be labeled one of those creatures at my age. ;)
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this is hilarious. how can this derby be so wrong and hated by most, while the other derby thread is a totally a different story?
Because the other organizer is not a member of FWR while Rick is ? :D
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British Columbia
Invermere Station Pub Derby Jan 2011 Invermere
Sidney Anglers Winter Derby Jan 2011 Sidney website
Nicola Valley Fish and Game Club Ice Fishing Derby Jan 2011 Merritt
Family Fishing Derby Jan 2011 Cranbrook website
Hwy 24/Interlakes Lions Club Ice Fishing Derby Feb 2011 Sheridan Lake website
Woodbury Dolly Derby Apr 2011 Kootenay Lake website
Annual BC Open Apr 2011 Shawnigan Lake website
Elk Lake Annual Fishing Derby Apr 2011 Victoria website
Sidney Anglers Premier Derby Apr 2011 Sidney website
Christina Lake Marina Fishing Derby May 2011 Christina Lake website
Gold River Annual Fallers Derby May 2011 Gold River
Sidney Anglers Spring Derby May 2011 Sidney website
Port Sidney's Annual Salmon Derby May 2011 Sidney website
Just For the 'Halibut' Derby May 2011 Victoria website
Cultus Lake Pikeminnow Derby June 2011 Cultus Lake website
Prince Rupert Legion Annual Fish Derby June 2011 Prince Rupert website
Sidney Anglers Presidents Derby June 2011 Sidney website
Watch Lake / Green Lake Annual Fishing Derby June 2011 Watch Lake website
Wannabee Anglers Cup June 2011 Victoria
Fathers Day Derby at Zuiderze Resort June 2011 Nanaimo website
Lac La Hache Father's Day Fishing Derby June 2011 Lac La Hache website
Rotary Fishing Derby June 2011 Penticton website
Steveston Bullhead Derby June 2011 Steveston website
13th Annual Stuart Lake Fishing Derby June 2011 Fort St. James
Rivers Inlet Sportsmans Club Derbies July 2011 Rivers Inlet website
Shearwater Family Fishing Week Derby July 2011 Shear Water Resort website
Stuart Lake Annual Fishing Derby July 2011 Fort St. James website
Huck Finn Fishing Derby July 2011 Campbell River website
Davey Derby July 2011 Port Renfrew website
Small Fry Fishing Derby July 2011 Campbell River website
FILOMI Days Fishing Derby July 2011 Port Hardy website
Lillooet Sturgeon Fishing Derby July 2011 lillooet website
Puntzi Lake fishing derby July 2011 Chilanko Forks website
Vancouver Marina Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Vancouver website
Deka Lake & District VFD Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Deka Lake
Chase Salmon Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Chase website
Westview Marina's Annual Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Tahsis website
Consultants Invitational Annual Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Victoria website
Pink Salmon Festival Aug 2011 Sooke website
Esquimalt Anglers Annual Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Esquimalt website
Moutcha Bay Kayak Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Moutcha Bay website
Lillooet Lions Club Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Lillooet website
Bamfield Volunteer Fire Department Salmon Fish ... Aug 2011 Bamfield website
Comox Bullhead Derby Aug 2011 Comox website
Huu-ay-aht First Nations Salmon Derby Aug 2011 Bamfield website
Port Renfrew Labour Day Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Port Renfrew website
Sulphurous Lake VFD Fishing Derby Aug 2011 Sulphurous Lake website
Sooke Salmon Enhancement Salmon Derby Aug 2011 Sooke website
Family Fun Fishing Derby Sept 2011 Swan Lake
North King Lodge Coho Salmon Derby 1 Sept 2011 Caamano Sound website
Port Renfrew Marina Annual Coho Derby Sept 2011 Port Renfrew website
Sidney Anglers Roundup Derby Sept 2011 Sidney website
TYEE KAYAK SURFING DERBY Sept 2011 Nootka Sound website
Gibbs Take a Kid Fishing Derby Sept 2011 website
Vancouver Island Salmon Classic Sept 2011 Sooke website
Hot Winter Fishing Derby Oct 2011 Fraser Valley
Woodbury Rainbow Derby Oct 2011 Kootenay Lake website
Grouse River Outfitters Okanagan Classic Open ... Oct 2011 Osoyoos website
Browns Bay Chum Derby Oct 2011 Campbell River
Gerrard Rainbow Derby Nov 2011 Kaslo Bay
Boxing Day Steelhead Derby Dec 2011 Chilliwack website
Go have yourself a good time and enjoy 8)
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this is hilarious. how can this derby be so wrong and hated by most, while the other derby thread is a totally a different story?
Ricks derby was going to donate most of the monies back into the river. This derby is purely for the anglers and not the fish.
I dont care if you like derbies or not its a personal choice as is everything in life. This is a forum where we express our opinions and lots of us here feel derbies like these are nothing more than to feed the ego.
I personally dont kill any steelhead ever so its a no brainer to me.
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Wow,have we found a subject to replace the flossing threads? ;D
Pretty sad when some guys cant get together and have a little fun.
BB,Milo, are you guys going to the Chum derby this year? :D ;)
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In those sports your not killing anything plus it does not take money to keep the sport going. This fishery that everyone enjoys on the Vedder or any other hatchery enhanced river takes money to make it sustainable. The more money to the hatcheries and restoration means more fishing opportunities. Now if their is no money than that means no fish.
I played competitive sports most of my life. To me fishing is not a competitive sport. Its a relaxing hobby that I enjoy with friends.
The fishery everyone enjoys on the Veddar is enhanced through the purchase of our freshwater licenses, and additional tags, just like derby's held every year on lakes, and in the oceans, the money to support these endeavors comes from licencing, and yes, sometimes, it is all about the chest pounding, just like scoring a goal, or hitting a home run, or participating in a body building show.Many amateur sports do receive funding from govt (or used to before the Liberals got in there)
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Because the other organizer is not a member of FWR while Rick is ? :D
Ricks derby was going to donate most of the monies back into the river. This derby is purely for the anglers and not the fish.
I dont care if you like derbies or not its a personal choice as is everything in life. This is a forum where we express our opinions and lots of us here feel derbies like these are nothing more than to feed the ego.
I personally dont kill any steelhead ever so its a no brainer to me.
its not what you know or who you know in this fishing "world" its who you bl*w... i was at the boxing day derby and was the first of many i hope. it was nice to have a few anglers around to help out with some rookie centerpin questions... feeding the ego the fish porn site does that does it not?
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Wow,have we found a subject to replace the flossing threads? ;D
Pretty sad when some guys cant get together and have a little fun.
BB,Milo, are you guys going to the Chum derby this year? :D ;)
Don't know about Bobo, but I am...we are organizing a big memorial to our ChumMaster skipper Dennis Devereaux who passed away recently. the likes of IronNoggin, Liptugger, Comoxian and others will be there. It will be my last chum derby ever.
And, just like in previous years when Dennis was alive, we will NOT partake in the weigh-in and other prize related activities because for us it is not about that.
Besides, Bruce, a little controversy doesn't hurt.
Like in: you fish for sturgeon , I don't. You don't floss sockeye, I do. I am way more ethical than you! ;D
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the likes of IronNoggin, Liptugger, Comoxian and others will be there.
Why do you need to point out who will be attending, I doubt anyone cares...? I find it B.S how a few clowns on here are bashing this guys derby.
All you guys saying that derbys are the devil need to really pull your heads out of your bum and quit making a fool of yourself.The river is a GONGSHOW already, and only hatcherys would be killed anyways.....what they are there for lol.
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Why do you need to point out who will be attending, I doubt anyone cares...? I find it B.S how a few clowns on here are bashing this guys derby.
All you guys saying that derbys are the devil need to really pull your heads out of your bum and quit making a fool of yourself.The river is a GONGSHOW already, and only hatcherys would be killed anyways.....what they are there for lol.
To reply to your query, I pointed those people out because Bruce (firstlight) happens to know them - some of them are his friends, too. Besides, some of those guys forgot about fishing more than most of us will ever learn in 10 lifetimes. I think that is reason enough.
You said: the river is a gong show already, so why not make it even more so with yet another derby. ::)
Apply that logic to everything else (the classrooms are crowded already, let's add another 5 students; or, I am already fat, what's another few pounds?; or, the beach is already dirty, so it doesn't matter if I litter...) Give your head a friggin' shake, dude! Maybe then whatever gray matter you may have in it will start working.
Oh, and BTW: you have a whopping total of seven posts on FWR and are already calling names people you don't know. >:(
I really hope your childhood wasn't as rough as you make it sound from that keyboard of yours. :'(
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Date works for me.
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Date works for me.
Finally the thread is back on track!
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milo your the same guy who told everybody to stay home last sunday the river will be blown.Well the river was good,a little high but good.I guess you were heading out that day.Promote fishing but stay home when i go out.Your word means nothing.I take it this derby is on a sunday.I'm in.
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milo your the same guy who told everybody to stay home last sunday the river will be blown.Well the river was good,
I second that.
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milo your the same guy who told everybody to stay home last sunday the river will be blown.Well the river was good,a little high but good.
If I was ever to post a river condition report on a forum (don't hold your breath) I would have reported the same water conditions as Milo. The river was crap when he took the photos but hey, weather changes; the temperature dropped, the rain stopped and sure enough there was enough visibilty to catch a few fish the next day. I think Milo made the right call to save some of you anglers from parts west a few gallons of gas.
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milo your the same guy who told everybody to stay home last sunday the river will be blown.Well the river was good,a little high but good.I guess you were heading out that day.Promote fishing but stay home when i go out.Your word means nothing.I take it this derby is on a sunday.I'm in.
You are wrong.
I stayed home on Sunday after seeing what the river was like on Saturday afternoon.
As you may or may not recall, I even stopped by the Tamahi bridge in pounding rain to take a picture of the river, which I bothered to upload on the forum the same evening for everyone to see and make up their mind.
I may or may not be right when stating an opinion or giving advice, but I want you and everybody else to remember this one thing:
I say what I mean and mean what I say. To even insinuate that I would have fished the Vedder on Sunday after what I wrote on the forum about water conditions is disrespectful and defamatory in my books, especially considering you have never met me or fished with me. ???
But then again, this is the Internet and apparently everything goes, even character judgment based on a botched river condition prediction. ::)
I wish you good health and peace of mind, fisher man, for it seems you get upset quite easily. I feel for you. :'(
Back to your regular programming schedule now please.
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milo your the same guy who told everybody to stay home last sunday the river will be blown.Well the river was good,a little high but good.I guess you were heading out that day.Promote fishing but stay home when i go out.Your word means nothing.I take it this derby is on a sunday.I'm in.
If anyone had to guarantee about river conditions for next day, no one will be able to post anything on the Vedder/Chilliwack River conditions thread.
Many members, including myself, appreciate what milo and others have posted on the thread, as having some indication is better than having no indication at all.
Milo even went out of his way to post pictures, so give the guy a break man!
Every fisherman, including myself, not only look at the thread but also weather reports, river level data, etc. to reach our own conclusions. Right?
We are kind of off the subject of the original thread, but I thought it would be best to step in say something. :)
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LMAO, the fact that this isnt a troll makes it even funnier. Thanks for the laugh Milo ;)
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Anyone that makes up his or her mind about fishing a location based on 1 internet report is well........weak.
By the way,the Pinks are in. ;D