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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: bigblockfox on February 10, 2011, 01:39:44 PM

Title: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: bigblockfox on February 10, 2011, 01:39:44 PM
whats the advantage of having a rod that long? i am not new to fishing but never used a pin before. i would love to pick one up and try but just wondering what systems you use a rod this long on. i personally only fish the vedder but would love to try some more rivers. any knowledge from anyone that has fished with a rod like this would be a appreciated. i was eyeing this rod on g-loomis website but would love some more info before i spend big $. thanks in advance.
Title: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: hue-nut on February 10, 2011, 09:32:50 PM
whats the advantage of having a rod that long? i am not new to fishing but never used a pin before. i would love to pick one up and try but just wondering what systems you use a rod this long on. i personally only fish the vedder but would love to try some more rivers. any knowledge from anyone that has fished with a rod like this would be a appreciated. i was eyeing this rod on g-loomis website but would love some more info before i spend big $. thanks in advance.

loomis touts this rod as a big river rod, its not. You would be hooped on the Thompson. It is a great rod for the Vedder and any river that you want to toss light weight,  the longer rod is really just more of a personal preference
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: bigblockfox on February 11, 2011, 08:56:04 AM
what other pin rod would you guys suggest in that price range? i wouldnt be using it for chum and chinook but for steelhead and coho.
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: bigblockfox on February 11, 2011, 12:56:00 PM
thanks for the info. much appreciated
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: hue-nut on February 11, 2011, 02:30:49 PM
If you are new to using a pin then stick with what you have till you get comfortable because a 13' rod especially this one would be awkward in tight spots. This rod is not like your typical 10'6 it's more whippy but not quite a noodle. People call the GLX 1563 a 3 power but to me it's more of a 2.5, it feels too soft to be a 3 power but you can totally feel the power half way down the rod to the handle. 

The length is great for float control and keeping line off the water without high sticking too much. The length is also good for absorbing the shock caused when fighting fish which translates to being able to use really light leaders. I personally would not use this rod fishing chinooks or chum but I think Yakideath has a YouTube video of him playing a good sized one so maybe you could but I wouldn't.

I wanted this rod since it came out and finally my wife bought it for me for Xmas. I don't mind the line guides but the sliding rings suck and reels have to be taped down so they don't accidentally fall off. If this rod was sold as a blank, I would have my ideal steelhead/coho rod.


Chrome, I just stripped my GLX! I am redoing all the cork and using a w fitting. I know it will void my warranty but got it for such a good deal I decided to just work with the blank rather than sell and buy another blank. I'll post some pics up when done.

Chrome, tried to sell my
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: Geff_t on February 11, 2011, 03:26:26 PM
Check out Centerpinangling website if you are interested in longer pin rods for Steelhead and coho.

Hard to answer a question like that when there are quite a few(GLoomis, Lamiglass, Sage, Amundson...) quality rods out there. Personally if I were spending similar $$$'s I would try to find a Sage 3113M/LB  or 3106L for an all around pin rods.

Geoff T had some custom pin rods posted up that would be good as well but is all a personal preference.

  I have got one left and it is the 10'6" Lamiglas. Check it out in the buy and sell section. Otherwise the rod builder I use is just finishing up a 3113m green blank and a 2106mb brown blank both in a Pin and with all the bells and whisltes. These both have all the best components and will be going for a pretty penny but man are they worth it.
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: river walker on February 11, 2011, 04:16:04 PM
As far as I am aware. From loomis, changing the handle will not void the warranty . As long as you do not alter the action of the rod by cutting it.  But if the but section breaks, you will have to strip it again and redo it .
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: bigblockfox on February 11, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
how about a sage 3113 mb? found a like new one for sale for $450. i like the fact thats its a 11'3 and not 13'. might be good for a newbie pin guy like me. thoughts?
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: glx on February 11, 2011, 11:30:25 PM
Cant go wrong with a 3113, awesome rod!
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: hue-nut on February 12, 2011, 12:24:52 PM
 I have got one left and it is the 10'6" Lamiglas. Check it out in the buy and sell section. Otherwise the rod builder I use is just finishing up a 3113m green blank and a 2106mb brown blank both in a Pin and with all the bells and whisltes. These both have all the best components and will be going for a pretty penny but man are they worth it.

Geff, I met Duncan on the river the other day, and he had one of the loomis blanks with w fitting that you sold him, dang! that rod was a steal for $250! very nice craftsmanship
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: Geff_t on February 12, 2011, 01:08:30 PM
Geff, I met Duncan on the river the other day, and he had one of the loomis blanks with w fitting that you sold him, dang! that rod was a steal for $250! very nice craftsmanship

  Yes the rods where a steal at the price he just wanted to see them being fished instead of hanging on the rod rack. The price he wanted for the rods does not even cover the cost to make the rods. I am surprised no one has bought the Lamiglas one yet as it is one sweet rod.
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: steelie-slayer on February 13, 2011, 12:27:27 AM
imo 13' rods are stuiped long for the chill/vedder. Last weekend i was watching a guy just down from me trying to fish a deep run of about 8 feet in very tight trees and brushes he had to wade out a couple feet just so he cud cast and he was in sum swift current up to his belly button  :-\ and still sumtimes catching tree branches behind him. I fished it after him and never caught and trees and didnt have to wade out and i was using my 10'6 fishing about the same depth.
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: steelie-slayer on February 13, 2011, 08:36:48 PM
I bet if you tried a 3113 or a 13 ft you would want one for sure. Just cuz you saw one guy have some difficulty does not mean anything.  Thats like saying I dont like pizza but have never tried it?
yes good point. I used to have a 9 foot drift rod then got a 10'6 and after a day it felt way better. im getting a pin rod n reel soon and am either getting a 12' or 13'6
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: lapa on February 13, 2011, 11:44:25 PM
I bet if you tried a 3113 or a 13 ft you would want one for sure. Just cuz you saw one guy have some difficulty does not mean anything.  Thats like saying I dont like pizza but have never tried it?
X2. would like to try 18 ft  one for pink fishing.
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: bigblue on February 14, 2011, 12:56:16 AM
I would love to try out a long noddle rod except I don't really want to invest the time to learn how to use a pin proficiently.
Therein lies my dilemma, but the idea is very appealing.

Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: steelie-slayer on February 14, 2011, 08:39:12 AM
X2. would like to try 18 ft  one for pink fishing.
last summer on the island i saw a guy using a 16ft spey rod 4wt for pinks, thing sure was long but for beach fishing he could reallly get it out there. An 18ft would make a good fraser rod. and it might have been longer then 13'6 but he either said 13'6 or 16'6 i cant rember :-[
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: lapa on February 14, 2011, 12:14:41 PM
last summer on the island i saw a guy using a 16ft spey rod 4wt for pinks, thing sure was long but for beach fishing he could reallly get it out there. An 18ft would make a good fraser rod. and it might have been longer then 13'6 but he either said 13'6 or 16'6 i cant rember :-[

I just use this telescopic rod for carp fishing and want to try for pinks. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: sugartooth on February 14, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
imo 13' rods are stuiped long for the chill/vedder.
im getting a pin rod n reel soon and am either getting a 12' or 13'6
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: steelie-slayer on February 14, 2011, 06:47:43 PM
To sugartooth i did some homework on the subject
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: lapa on February 16, 2011, 07:49:03 PM

Chrome, I just stripped my GLX! I am redoing all the cork and using a w fitting. I know it will void my warranty but got it for such a good deal I decided to just work with the blank rather than sell and buy another blank. I'll post some pics up when done.

Chrome, tried to sell my
hue-nut ,how much it will cost you. I'm thinking to do it with my GLX1352. Can you change part of cork or have to replace all section?
thanks,
  lapa
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: bigblue on February 16, 2011, 07:59:18 PM
 
I just use this telescopic rod for carp fishing and want to try for pinks. ;) ;)
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I would be careful about using your telescopic rod for salmon fishing.
When I started salmon fishing in BC, I did not have any rods except a telescopic rod for carp fishing my friend gave, as all my fishing gear were at my parents home far away. I hooked my first salmon on that 3 meter tele rod and the salmon just snapped the rod in half in no time.  An old timer saw this happen and must have seen my dispirited face. He stopped and chatted with me a long time to boost my dented ego and gave me many good pointers to follow.

I know pinks are small, but they are still salmon. No? ;)


Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: bigblockfox on February 16, 2011, 10:21:33 PM
Geff, I met Duncan on the river the other day, and he had one of the loomis blanks with w fitting that you sold him, dang! that rod was a steal for $250! very nice craftsmanship

i think the guy you met sold it to me. he had it for a couple of days and said it was to long for his liking. 11 foot loomis with the w fitting. geff_t sold it to him i believe. going to try it out on friday and saturday
Title: Re: Why use a long rod? - GLoomis GLX 1563 CP rod
Post by: Geff_t on February 16, 2011, 10:51:56 PM
i think the guy you met sold it to me. he had it for a couple of days and said it was to long for his liking. 11 foot loomis with the w fitting. geff_t sold it to him i believe. going to try it out on friday and saturday
Nope it was Duncan as I sold him 2 rods.