Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: steve B on January 25, 2011, 11:16:17 AM
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im looking for some good all around patterns for fishing the Stave, Harrison, Alouette, Coquitlam, Vedder/chilliwack rivers
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i am no pro at the bug slinging, but i have read lots that rolled muddlers work well...
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tied down minnow/epoxy minnow are classic cutthroat trout pattern.
anything resembling a forage fish such as sticklebacks or minnows should produce, especially in spring.
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Try some attractors right now as well. Red and yellows are excellent cuttie colours. Don't forget that they are trout so take some nymphs too. Do a search and you'll find quite a few easy to tie or easily bought flies.
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/salmonid/patterns5.html
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Clarki Hunter that web page you supplied is amazing. I have never seen, basically all 5 of my top 5 Sea run cuttie patterns in one place before!
One the Borden Special I only use in salt water. It was my go to pattern when I used to live on the Sunshine Coast. A local told me about it, showed me how to tie it and I've never looked back! The other's include the Rolled Muddler, Silver Bullet, Johnson's Beach Fly, and Knudson's Spider.
However for backwaters on the Fraser and the Tidal Fraser I have a few others that I use for Coastal Cutties. (http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu221/mykisscrazy/NonTidalFraserCuttiePatterns.jpg)
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu221/mykisscrazy/TidalFraser-BullTroutPatterns.jpg)
These I use in the Tidal Fraser and it's backwaters.
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Whatever you are using, make sure to have some yellow worked in, especially if you are chasing sea runs. I am sure that this is what makes the mickey finn and the professor so deadly.
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ya those two patterns come up alot the professor and the mickey finn so i will be slinging those on a nice 5 weight with an intermediate sink tip on the stave today gorgeous day today
keep them patterns coming I'm not the only one who benefits by this post
i see that red and yellow seem to be the two colors of choice but a little flash doesn't hurt either, cutthroats i find are scrappy fighters they go nuts when you hook them just finding them i a task and a half
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IMHO red is the key colour. From imitating gills, injured fish, to straight up attractor I try and get some in any pattern I tie. Just keep in mind that if it's a dark day or your going deep, goto the blues and greens as the red will show as a shade of grey if at all.
Nice patterns mykiss. They look very coho fishy too ;D
Buggy patterns, regardless of what your trying to imitate can save the day when they're not so interested in your goto or fav patterns. Smaller wooley buggers, wooley worms, soft hackles can work wonders.
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These are a few patterns that I like to carry around when fishing for sea-runs.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/bc_angler/flys/P1090788.jpg)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/bc_angler/flys/P1090795.jpg)
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Great looking box you got there Lucky. I need to do more of a bulk tie instead of the 2-3 I do for the day.
Mykisscrazy: I'm gonna borrow that chartreuse bait fish pattern from you. I'll bet that's a good searcher.
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Great looking box you got there Lucky. I need to do more of a bulk tie instead of the 2-3 I do for the day.
Mykisscrazy: I'm gonna borrow that chartreuse bait fish pattern from you. I'll bet that's a good searcher.
I dunno...
I like to stick with 4-5 patterns that I KNOW will work. I also have 1 searcher pattern picked out that I use for all beaches/streams that has worked well for me.
That said those 4 or 5 patterns might change with each system I fish, so the need to a bulky box come in.
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stoneflies - check
Chironomids - check
Emergers - check
Various dries - check
Different size and colour nymphs - check
Boatman - check
Leeches - check
Gurglers - check
Flesh flies - check
Egg pattern - check
And all of the above mentioned patterns in the thread. Searun Cutthroat don`t always hammer a baitfish or attractor pattern and don`t automatically strike everything you throw at them so it`s a good idea to be able to match the hatch or try something completely different when your fly is being snubbed.
Cheers
Nuggy
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I dunno...
I like to stick with 4-5 patterns that I KNOW will work. I also have 1 searcher pattern picked out that I use for all beaches/streams that has worked well for me.
That said those 4 or 5 patterns might change with each system I fish, so the need to a bulky box come in.
As Nuggy put it, its good to have lots of patterns just in case, especially on a new to you system. However, I do find that the closer to the estuary you are the fewer patterns you need. Clearly if you've got a system somewhat dialed then you could confidently carry a handful.
What I meant by bulk tie is to sit down and tie up a doz of each pattern in the sizes I need instead of a couple for the day.
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You don't need a lot of patterns. Carry fewer patterns in various sizes. What you carry should be tuned to the time of year to some extent.
Examples: Minnow or Baitfish: Rolled muddler, Tied down Mylar minnow #6 to #10. You can throw in a regular muddler and that will work (all year)
Streamers: Mickey Finn - same sizes. You can throw in a Professor or a darker set of patterns like a March Brown wet, a Coachman or a silver brown (mostly in the fall)
Alevin: Egg & eye (winter only)
Nymphs: generalistic nymphs # 6 to #16 ie hare's ear, half back, prince nymph (best winter & early spring but all year)
Midges/Chironomids: griffiths gnat, TDC : these are usually very small #16 to #18. Trout love' em tho' (winter early spring)
Emergers: any soft hackle #10 to #16
Dry Flies: Mayflies and stoneflies. Mays are in 2 sizes basically either a #10 (March Browns) or small like a #16. Adams, compara duns and various parachutes in browns and dark greys. Stones too are either tiny (#18) or larger (#10). A griffth gnat works for the small ones and any larger pattern like an elk hair caddis etc for the larger ones. (mostly winter to early spring)
after that some wooly buggers, black and olive #8 & 10. A white or cream one works as a flesh fly.Im usually put a gold bead on 'em. (anytime)
Eggs: late fall early winter.
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crayfish pattern might be something to look into as well.
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that's one nice thing about the wooly bugger - looks a bit like everything. Anyone ever caught and cleaned a cuttie from the named streams with crayfish in the gut? I haven't but I'd think they would eat 'em big time.
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that's one nice thing about the wooly bugger - looks a bit like everything. Anyone ever caught and cleaned a cuttie from the named streams with crayfish in the gut? I haven't but I'd think they would eat 'em big time.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO yea they do...
When not biting throw a crayfish pattern. Or if it isn't bait ban just use a crayfish (small one less than 4 inches long).