Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: one more cast on November 07, 2010, 10:26:22 AM
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On Craigslist this morning. Don't know what he's asking, but it sounds interesting for anyone looking for a bamboo rod.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/spo/2047145329.html
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that rod will most likely be in the $500 and up area. alot of canes rods go for over $1000 nowadays (of course these are newer lighter models)
wish he had a picture up, I have been thinking about getting a cane rod for a little while but cant justify the price tag ::)
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I phoned. He would entertain $ 1,000. No doubt this rod was $ 1,500 back in the day. Maybe collectors see the value in this rod. I had some cane rods from the 40s and use them for nostalgia where I know the fishes will not fight so hard as to break it.
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Cane rods can be dicey. Care is a must. If the center core has dried out it could snap like a dry twig under load (learned this one the hard way). I have given many a refit over the years. I personally own four and use to use them all the time, but the upkeep made me convert to graphite. Like wood boats, to keep them looking good the exterior finish needs to be sanded down and refinished regularly and when the center core (the pith) dries out they need to be striped down completely (wraps, guides, and ferules removed) and soaked before restoration.
$1000 to $1500 for a rod that my need a refit or snap under load? Wishful thinking.
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Cane rod is best for hanging on the wall as deco. (my thoughts anyways)
Needs to be kept in a cool not too dry/humid place otherwise it'll warp. Too much of a hassle. :P
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I agree BwiBwi put them on a wall and enjoy. I have 4 spit cane rods I bought years ago from Peter McVey at corbet lake, used then for a year or two them oiled them up and put them in a nice case for all my fishing buds to drool over ;D
Steve
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So what's the deal with cane rods besides nostalgic. Are there positive characteristics of cane not found in graphite?
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I think its all about looking fancy and wealthy on the water. Same thing goes for alot of snobby fishermen that think if you dont have high end stuff your not worth their time to talk to ::) ::)
I love running into these guys and promptly out fishing them with my mid range stuff ;D especially gratifying when they ask me whats working after not even acknowleging me when i said Hi or asked something.
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Gonna look good standing there with fancy gear if you can't catch fish.
Having said that a high end reel is a pleasure to fish with vs. lower and even mid stuff.
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higher end rods are also nicer to use because they will weigh considerable less and yes you can notice an ounce difference surprisingly.
HOOK - slowly upgrading everything to high end stuff ;D
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I think its all about looking fancy and wealthy on the water. Same thing goes for alot of snobby fishermen that think if you dont have high end stuff your not worth their time to talk to ::) ::)
I love running into these guys and promptly out fishing them with my mid range stuff ;D especially gratifying when they ask me whats working after not even acknowleging me when i said Hi or asked something.
I love to play that game too!
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If you want to see what goes into making cane fly rod from scratch do a search on Spey Pages. A member there is in the final stages of finishing up a cane fly rod. Quite interesting to see how one is made, and what the builder can do to make sure it lasts a lifetime. The title of the thread is " The Making of a Bamboo Spey Rod".
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about 20 years ago I was still in the Fly Fishing gear business and was concerned about all the hype of very expensive gear. so I experimented with one of my beginners fly rod outfits from Cortland. the rod was really low cost. Guess what ? My $ 200 ( total for rod, reel, line ) caught as many fish as my buddies very expensive outfits. Same goes for the cane rod that I borrowed from Thomas and Thomas. I think it cost about $ 1,500 and it caught the same number of fish as the graphites. The only thing about cane rods is when the sun shines ; the beautiful color of the rod really shows. When I am not fishing and thinking about my days on the water I remember that golden color.
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The feeling of quality in your hands makes a big difference.
I turn wrenches for a living, there a many cheaper look alikes but when it comes to wrenches
The feel of snap-on can't be duplicated.
It’s the same with hobbies and sports.
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Partridge Rods were pretty common back in the 80s and 90s. Best I recall they sold for under $300. Very few cane rods are worth over $1g or are truely collectable. They are a number of collectable rod dealers in the UK who sell Hardy, Scotty and similar used cane for $300 to $500.
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If the center core has dried out it could snap like a dry twig under load (learned this one the hard way).
Split cane rods don't have 'a core'. They are made of 6 tapered strips of cane that are glued together. The cane is cured (dried like firewood) often for years (most makers of cane rods have very old stock since Tonkin Cane is hard to get and for a generation was all but unattainable as it comes from China) and then it is heated with flame to temper the wood. Warped tips can be straightened again with heat - usually a wood alcohol burner will do. Moisture is far more damaging to cane than dry. Cheers.
So what's the deal with cane rods besides nostalgic. Are there positive characteristics of cane not found in graphite?
Cane has very good internal damping (it doesn't continue to vibrate after it is flexed). Graphite has that too. Graphite is superior on most levels though many people claim cane has a feel and a rythmn other materials lack. Cane is hand made and done by someone with both talen and care is beautiful to look at. It is much heavier than either graphite or even glass. FWIW graphite while easy to store can be easily damaged and I think cane likley withstands knocks and bumps that will otherwise bruise graphite and result in failure later.
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Sorry to offend you I guess my 23 years of self taught repairing is all wet.
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I'm not offended but sometimes things need to be put straight. ::)
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FWIW graphite while easy to store can be easily damaged and I think cane likley withstand knocks and bumps that will otherwise bruise graphite and result in failure later.
found this link on another site:
check out the video:
http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/37759/t/durability-test-video.html
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wow. now i'm interested. oh noes :( there goes the vacation budget
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found this link on another site:
check out the video:
http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/37759/t/durability-test-video.html
I AM IMPRESSED!!!! I have a garbage (clean of course) full of old cane parts; thank you for motivating to take up cane building again.