Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: mvelasco on October 22, 2010, 02:49:10 PM
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Just a quick question for all of you regarding weights.
I use lead weights which you can slide the line through and no way of stopping it.
I use beads on the top and bottom to hold the weight in place but there's too much tension and it snaps my line due to the added tension from the beads. I've seen guys using surgical tubing with a clip and was wondering if that's the Ned method of approaching it. Mspaint pictures would be appreciated or explanations or other weight suggestions.thanks! ;D
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I make my own with surgical tubing and #8 - 3 way swivels. Use crazy glue to attach tubing to bottom eye, leader to middle and mainline to the top. Don't use too much glue or swivel will not work properly, keep tubing from touching main part of swivel.
Best part if weight get snagged it will usually pull out of tubing so only takes a second to reload.
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What kind of weights, pencil lead? You can try attaching it to your line just above a regular double sided swivel with two pieces of surgical tubing, one on each of the lead to keep it attached to your line. I rarely lose lead that way, unless the snag is real bad and I end up breaking my main line while trying to pull it out.
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An easy solution if you are using pencil lead is to leave a tag end on the main line side where you attach it to the swivel. Tag end can be two to three inces long. Put your pencil lead on the tag end, lightly crimp it down with a small plier or hognose. Now if you get caught up in a snag, pull back and the pencil lead usually pulls off, and you get the rest of your hardware back. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the help fellas.will definitely try these out
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I flatten one end of the pencil lead and then hole punch it. Attach it to a snap swivel.
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Normally at this time of year you do snag too much unless you're fishing near submerged snags. You shouldn't be anywhere near the bottom for salmon as salmon (specifically coho) suspend midwater often and won't look down for a bait. The see stuff above them. I use both pencil lead in rubber tubing or threaded on the mainline. I lose more with the rubber tubing.
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strait thru the lead with a bead between the knot and lead ! I lose very little lead short floating ! ;D
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strait thru the lead with a bead between the knot and lead ! I lose very little lead short floating ! ;D
Ditto...unless I cast over rjs and he clips my line. ;D ;D
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I usually use this set up. To attach the surgical tubing to the clip I use a sharp knife to puch a hole through each side of the tubing 1/4" from the top and feed the clip through both holes. If I hit a mild snag, I just lose the lead. When there is a bad snag, the tubing will sometimes rip off the clip saving the rest of my rig.
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr290/WildRod/Fun%20Stuff/Luresetup.jpg)
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Single salmon bead between weight and hook worked like a charm.thanks guys
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This is how to rig a weight so it will rarely be lost-always rigged as a slider
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/A_Fisher/IMGP2957.jpg?t=1287974341)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/A_Fisher/IMGP2958.jpg?t=1287974342)
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This is how to rig a weight so it will rarely be lost-always rigged as a slider
Can you please explain this??? Where does the "slider" come into play?
Is it not a pain in the butt to cram lead into a rubber.
How does the rubber help?
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By "slider" I'm guessing you feed the main line through the swivel. What's the easiest way to punch a hole through the lead? Nail?
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You can buy a plier that is used for hole punching pencil lead
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Can you please explain this??? Where does the "slider" come into play?
By "slider" I'm guessing you feed the main line through the swivel.
Correct
Is it not a pain in the butt to cram lead into a rubber.
Not if the tube is full of liquid silicone-which is sold cheap in large spray cans @ places like Canadian Tire.You need to hold the tube in a shallow curve to fill it as much as possible and you'll spill a bunch but it's cheap and evaporates once you're through.
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Whats the purpose of the tubing? That seems like quite a bit of work when there are easier, quicker options
The tubing acts as a "break away" when you snag on the bottom (or a branch, etc).
The snag pulls on the weight and hopefully the rubber gives way before the line.
I just punch a hole in the lead and pass my main line through the hole above a swivel.
Much easier setup (less snags too because it is shorter) but it makes it more difficult if you are changing weights.
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i like putting the lead onto my mainline slip sinker style, by this i mean making a partial cut into it on each side then wiggling side to side so it breaks off leaving the inner hole open, i feed my line through it entirely. I find this has alot more sensitivity and drifts really nice with good control
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There are pliers out there that you can buy which will help you punch holes in lead.
Also, there is a way to fold over the surgical tubing and cut a small hole in it. Place your lead in the tubing. Then loop your line through it and then pass your weight which is in the tubing through that. Then pull the line tight and this way the tubing is attached to the main line. Also, it is adjustable, meaning; you can move it up or down the line. With the other set-ups I've seen, you can't adjust where the weight is on the line. I will try to find a youtube posting of this method. If I can't, ask you local tackle shop to explain it to you.
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Whats the purpose of the tubing? That seems like quite a bit of work when there are easier, quicker options
--adjusting weight as well as break away when snagged..
--can easily reduce weight by cutting with wire cutters and can add larger weight.
--river flow changes even when in same spot... but for sure when moving along river can quickly adjust for different drift.
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how are you supposed to adjust your weight when its completely covered in tubing? And how is it supposed to break away? Yes if you use just a bit of tubing but if you completely cover it, it seems pointless and a waste of time. Using silicone to get it to slide in? There are way easier methods..IMO
--good point... I only have tubing over about 1/4 of the lead so I can either cut the lead off or change size from selection I carry with me.
--only thing to watch when cutting lead and also when changing is that there are no jagged edges on the lead from rock bumps or the cut area as this will rub on the line
--If I don't want lead banging on the rocks then us old slinky type.. lead shot in a shoe lace as a tube weight