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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bavarian Raven on October 15, 2010, 07:54:49 AM
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was walking by the coquitlam river today, i noticed that there were NO salmon that I could see in the river (though to be fair i didnt walk more then a half a kilometer along the east side of the river). usually the chums are swarming up there at this time of year. or is it still early? or has something happened? has anyone else noticed this? i am just asking for curiosity sake. :) thanks for your replies.
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The Coquitlam has suffered from poor chum runs the past few years, and they are now getting a return of Springs. Who knows how the Coho will fair. My larger concern is the massive amounts of people fishing the river in comparison to previous years. Since when did the Coquitlam because a "destination river"? Four cars parked at every run and pool. Seems like every guy and his dog within a 10 km radius is fishing the river now. It used to be a great river to waste a couple hours casting, alone. No chance of that now.
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Dion, well said... i agree, it is a lot more heavily fished now :-\, though to be fair i fish it 2 or 3 times a year with light tackle and line, for those large cutties. they sure do put up a good fight 8)
i thought those looked like springs (that i saw last year), but everyone was like, oh no, springs dont go up the coquitlam. ::) good to know.
ps, does anyone know if there are any pinks that go up the coquitlam? (just for curiosity sake)
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Since when did the Coquitlam because a "destination river"? Four cars parked at every run and pool. Seems like every guy and his dog within a 10 km radius is fishing the river now. It used to be a great river to waste a couple hours casting, alone. No chance of that now.
Must say I'm a little surprised with your comments. I expected that sort of thing from the general public but not a moderator.
When did it become a "destination river" - Just as you said , when one has a couple of hours to spare. These days in time who can spend more than a couple of hours on a stream?
There is still lots of room for people on the river... As long as they all are respectful.
I'll lay odds the same can be said about a whole bunch of other smaller streams in the Lower Mainland.
The more people on these rivers is a good thing as they are the eyes and hopefully report things when they see them....illegal fishing, soap suds, oil slicks, unleashed dogs chassing and pulling fish out...the list goes on
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Yes a small number of pinks use the river. For a few years now the chehalis hatchery along with other dfo groups have been planting pinks into quite a few streams on the north side of the fraser
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People wil disappear if no retention of any fish from this poor urban river wasted by urban development. ;)
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i grew up fishing the coquitlam and from what i have seen the last couple of years the chum count is way down particularly this year,as for the fishing pressure there has allways been pressure at some of the easier access holes and most fisherman frequent the areas above kingsway up to the doctors pooland hatchery area,there has allways been some pressure in these areas but from what i have seen it really isn't much more than usuall for this time of year,i fished the river three days this week and i didn't see a single fisherman any of the days,which pretty much is the norm in the area of river i usually fish.
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The snagging of the whiteys this year has reached an epic level.. it just disgusts me to see whats going on in there. I have no idea where all these people came from.. i live right on the river and 90% of the people out there this year I have never seen before... Mabey the internet??? I dont know. Very sad
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if you want to see snagging just go look under the kingsway bridge when the chums are in,this has been going on for years and there is no retention of chums but I'm sure that more than a few of them found their way into peoples freezers.
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if you want to see snagging just go look under the kingsway bridge when the chums are in,this has been going on for years and there is no retention of chums but I'm sure that more than a few of them found their way into peoples freezers.
Happens on others rivers over by me too. I am glad that I have the CO's cell number on speed dial on my cell.
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The snagging of the whiteys this year has reached an epic level.. it just disgusts me to see whats going on in there. I have no idea where all these people came from.. i live right on the river and 90% of the people out there this year I have never seen before... Mabey the internet??? I dont know. Very sad
Check out how many views this topic has had in the last 24 hours close to 500 (at this time)
So I'm sure there will be a few extra fishers out there this weekend.
I used to live on the river in the 70's and there was snagging then too (not as prevalent as today however) they were easier to spot though, big barbed treble hooks,
but being teenagers with wrist rockets........
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Fishing pressure is at least double last year. Snagging, flossing whatever you want to call
it... multiple calls and have yet to see a DFO officer :-\ :'( This river does not need any
excess pressure. I don't think it needs more people on it for the attention, There are
enough wrongly identified fish killed as well as pounds upon pounds of garbage thrown
around carelessly.
So if it does not need more pressure does it mean you stopped fishing it? Every person fishing it adds pressure. Just bringing this topic up means more people on the river.
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i headed to a local flow and it was a zoo, 14 cars/trucks parked along the roadside... was amazed i have fished it for years and have saw one other fisherman and i believe he is on this forum... the sport of fishing is growing rapidly and times of having a quite spot on a local flow is becoming the thing of that past...
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Must say I'm a little surprised with your comments. I expected that sort of thing from the general public but not a moderator.
When did it become a "destination river" - Just as you said , when one has a couple of hours to spare. These days in time who can spend more than a couple of hours on a stream?
There is still lots of room for people on the river... As long as they all are respectful.
I'll lay odds the same can be said about a whole bunch of other smaller streams in the Lower Mainland.
The more people on these rivers is a good thing as they are the eyes and hopefully report things when they see them....illegal fishing, soap suds, oil slicks, unleashed dogs chassing and pulling fish out...the list goes on
Why are you surprised? Is a moderator not allowed to have an opinion? Keeping my mouth shut or my fingers in check wasn't part of the deal was it Rodney?
If you've fished the river regularly most your life like I have you might have a little different opinion. This system is ravaged by the two gravel mines that let their settling ponds discharge to the river when it rains. This excess silt suffocates the salmon and steelhead eggs in the river. Add on top of that the massive urban sprawl that has occurred over the past decade (that I've been conscious of it), which now includes a one thousand percent increase in population on Burke mountain (where I grew up). All this added population increases the water run-off that enters the river which carries with it all the containments that humans let run into storm drains. These 'extra' people are now those contributing to the added fishing pressure on the Coquitlam (so I suspect).
The Coquitlam has never had an especially strong run of any species of fish (for as long as I've fished it). All these added 'obstacles' we have caused the fish are not helping. The hatchery on the river has a minuscule budget, and is run by volunteers. More people fishing this river is NOT a good thing in this case. The fact is most of these new anglers I've seen fishing, are new to fishing in general. They have little idea of how to fish properly, how to handle fish gently, or how to clean up after themselves. Then there are those intentionally snagging. The main problem, in my opinion, is the retention of hatchery coho, and springs. This open retention has directly caused the mass increase of anglers on the river.
I realize that this thread will likely attract people to fish the Coquitlam, but I feel it is worth the 'risk' if I am able to educate a few people about the problems that this river faces. I personal have reduced the amount I fish the Coquitlam over the past few years because of both the amount of people that now fish it, and my realization of the affect an individual angler can have on the river.
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I realize that this thread will likely attract people to fish the Coquitlam, but I feel it is worth the 'risk' if I am able to educate a few people about the problems that this river faces.
IMO this is a very poor choice.Considering that this thread has been read more than 700 times. The fact is, more people than not will go fish this river now, plain and simple :-X. Like you said, everybody has an opinion........this is mine >:(
p.s. As a moderator as well as an angler,did you think about the 700+ views, or just the hand full of maybe do gooders you MIGHT educate ::) ::)
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IMO this is a very poor choice.Considering that this thread has been read more than 700 times. The fact is, more people than not will go fish this river now, plain and simple :-X. Like you said, everybody has an opinion........this is mine >:(
p.s. As a moderator as well as an angler,did you think about the 700+ views, or just the hand full of maybe do gooders you MIGHT educate ::) ::)
Actually, as a moderator I know how the view count works. Every time the thread link is clicked it counts as a view. This thread has probably had well under a hundred different people view it. If I were to delete this thread (or any other small stream related thread) like I've been tempted to do many times, I would be labeled as an unfair moderator or a censor. This forum is open for people to discuss anything related to fishing with the goal of education, conservation, etc. How is that to be achieved if certain topics and rivers are taboo?
I'd also say you're being a little hypocritical in calling my decision to post a poor one. If you really cared about not bumping this thread up to the top (and therefore increasing the view count) you should have sent a PM or Email.
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where is that picture that Rodney has with that sick-man on the computer?
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I have fished this river for about 25 years. In the days when I lived over in Coquitlam was there all the time. Even now living in Delta I still make a few trips over there certain times for the year with varying success.
Maybe to decrease pressure close all streams that people feel have too many people fishing them. That will really fix things.
It is a beautiful little stream and hopefully is respected my most
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Heard through the grapevine that 5 people were ticketed for fishing without licenses, barbed hooks, etc. on the Coquitlam today. I never said the river should be closed to fishing, but closed to retention wouldn't bother me one bit.
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The more people on these rivers is a good thing as they are the eyes and hopefully report things when they see them....illegal fishing, soap suds, oil slicks, unleashed dogs chassing and pulling fish out...the list goes on
What mushrooms are you on?
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Advocating censorship on an internet forum is misguided and a complete waste of time. If someone has concern for a river, then do something about it: organize, rally, call the DFO, write emails, whatever. Until the river is closed for fishing, we should let others know HOW to fish it with care and respect. Just my $0.02.
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I was down on the river for a walk this evening and came back to a smashed window on my truck same goes for a couple guys fishing up river I heard. I leave nothing in my truck and still got a smashed window. >:( BTW didnt see much in the way of fish around just a couple moldy chums splashing around.
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That's unfortunate, Trout Slayer. I keep my vehicle quite empty and have locks on my glove box and centre console, but apparently that's not enough to keep a window from being smashed. So senseless.