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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: ynot on September 05, 2010, 08:59:01 AM
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a 72 lb spring taken at senora lodge ,n.e. of cambell river a new lodge record.good things happening in the ocean.
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a 72 lb spring taken at senora lodge ,n.e. of cambell river a new lodge record.good things happening in the ocean.
wow monster..any pictures would love to see the beast
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i know the guide ,top notch. here is a picture.
http://twitpic.com/2l8jdx
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That is definitely a pig :o
Saw it on the local news last night.WOW!!
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i know the guide ,top notch. here is a picture.
http://twitpic.com/2l8jdx
holy cow that monster is so thick..huge belly
ynot thanks for the pic
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Right on, another hawg killed for bragging rights! Wicked. ::)
Disclaimer - I know it's legal, it's also just very disappointing.
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We had a 78 pound release this year...it was chrome compared to this thing! I know some of the other lodges around here have had a few other 70 pound releases as well. i have been talking to some people with the Salmon society and they were mentioning that the whole Big fish breed Big fish may not be as absolute as we think.
We don't really know the story ...it may have been a bleeder , unable to revive etc. Also from what I hear Sonora usually has very poor salmon fishing.
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Large fish don't always produce large fish, as genetic makeup in a small fish coming from a large fish may still result in a potentially large offspring. The size of the fish, IMO, is more dependent to the amount of feed available. That being said, large fish has a much higher fecundity (number of offsprings that they can produce) therefore the loss of one large fish may influence the health of the run quantitatively.
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Right on, another hawg killed for bragging rights! Wicked. ::)
Disclaimer - I know it's legal, it's also just very disappointing.
I do not understand your disappointment --BUT-- you are certainly entitled to your sorrow. I for one would consider the size of that fish to be the highlight of my many years of fishing and would have gladly given it the BONK shall we say. Nothing in this life lives for ever even if you are big and fat. I am sure the angler paid a pretty penny to catch the fish and being totally legal it is his right to make the choice that he made. I for one would have made the same choice. The only scarey point would be the $1000.00 bill to mount the fish or there abouts.
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and a nice big tip for tommy.
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What is more satisfying? Spending additional money to mount it and tell the story while visitors wonder why there is a dead fish in your house, or take a photo of it and send it on its way to produce thousands more offsprings and tell the story whenever you show the photograph?
Personally I choose the photograph.
I've never regreted to release a fish, but have regreted to kill a fish. There's nothing wrong with harvesting a fish to eat, but some fish are a bit too special to kill.
At the end of the day, it was a legal kill. Maybe one day we will actually have a maximum size limit implemented.
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What is more satisfying? Spending additional money to mount it and tell the story while visitors wonder why there is a dead fish in your house, or take a photo of it and send it on its way to produce thousands more offsprings and tell the story whenever you show the photograph?
Personally I choose the photograph.
I've never regreted to release a fish, but have regreted to kill a fish. There's nothing wrong with harvesting a fish to eat, but some fish are a bit too special to kill.
At the end of the day, it was a legal kill. Maybe one day we will actually have a maximum size limit implemented.
Im with Rodney on this one. Just like the guy who pulled out a picture of a 25 pound steelhead with the KWB in the backgorund, I had to hear his storey. ;D
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No question I would have bonked it. That would be 15 meals for my family....at least.
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What is more satisfying? Spending additional money to mount it and tell the story while visitors wonder why there is a dead fish in your house, or take a photo of it and send it on its way to produce thousands more offsprings and tell the story whenever you show the photograph?
Personally I choose the photograph.
I've never regreted to release a fish, but have regreted to kill a fish. There's nothing wrong with harvesting a fish to eat, but some fish are a bit too special to kill.
At the end of the day, it was a legal kill. Maybe one day we will actually have a maximum size limit implemented.
I have felt that same way Rod. I dont kill many fish anymore. Other than the few salmon I kill ever year thats about it.
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I do not understand your disappointment --BUT-- you are certainly entitled to your sorrow. I for one would consider the size of that fish to be the highlight of my many years of fishing and would have gladly given it the BONK shall we say. Nothing in this life lives for ever even if you are big and fat. I am sure the angler paid a pretty penny to catch the fish and being totally legal it is his right to make the choice that he made. I for one would have made the same choice. The only scarey point would be the $1000.00 bill to mount the fish or there abouts.
Rodney summed it up really well, I think, Harley. A photo and the satisfaction of watching such a gorgeous specimen swim away would give me incredible pleasure... bonking it would would've almost certainly led me to regretting it.
As for big fish not making big fish - I am surprised to hear that, and would be interested in doing more reading. Every animal I can think of passes on certain genetic code that is in part predisposed to be similar to it's parents... I can't imagine why it would be different in salmon?
Tex
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I think the Tyee club in Campbell river has records of the tyee sizes since the beginning of their club. It seems the average weight of the Tyees is going down in the past 70 years. Same data the DFO has . Is there any B.C. ocean lodge owners who can provide this board with some real data on their catch sizes since the 60s and 70s to now in the 2000/s.
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Say you bonk a 72 pound spring, and that's your fish for the season, at the same time, someone else bonks four 20 pound springs. Which has the possibility of producing more offspring? food for thought :-\
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Say you bonk a 72 pound spring, and that's your fish for the season, at the same time, someone else bonks four 20 pound springs. Which has the possibility of producing more offspring? food for thought :-\
Sorry, I'm full and don't need any of your food. lol ;)
The reality is that generally, of the anglers I've met, the guys that are bonking the 72 pound spring aren't the type that only want to take one fish per season. They folks bonking the big fish are the ones that want to kill everything that comes to the boat.
Tex
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I am a meat fisherman, but I am with Rodney and Tex on this one.
Not so much for reasons of piscine altruism, but for practical reasons.
A 72-pound chinook must be a byatch to clean, cut and dress. Besides, judging from my experience with the big springs I have killed in the past (45# being the largest), a 72-pound chinook can't possibly taste better than a smaller fish due to the sheer amount of fat it has stored. In addition, the bigger the fish, the higher its toxicity ratio.
Why would you want to feed your family a platter of toxins?
So, next time you catch that personal record breaking tyee, think it over. Let it go, and focus on those 12-25 pounders for the table.
Your body and the salmon run will thank you.
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just think if that guy caught and released that fish in the Langara fishing tournament. He would not only be the hero of the year ; he would get a wad of cash and maybe be invited back next year to the same tournament. I can only dream of that.
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I feel the same aabout halibut harvesting. Let the larger fish go,most are female and the smaller do taste better. but, do we really know what we would do until we are faced with the situation?
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After all these years of lurking this is going to be my first post. I have to agree with Rodney's comments earlier in this thread. There are valid arguments to both sides of the debate but really, a tyee of that size is nothing more than a trophy and not a freezer full of meat. Buy a high end camera, snap a few pictures, measure and weigh them but let them go... alive!
I'm very proud of my father in law. Earlier this year he get into a big fish and let it go after getting a picture. It takes a big man to NOT hit something so huge over the head.
For anyone who wants to see his fish, click here:
http://peregrinelodge.com/blog/2010/07/30/july-28-days-catch-report.html
Cheers,
ShaunO
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It takes a big man to NOT hit something so huge over the head.
And if I may be so bold-- I think that is a hugh pile of ka-ka! ;D
If someone chooses to release any legal fish.. that is totally a personal decision. But to read the whining about the gene pool, they dont taste as good, you are not a big man if you dont release a monster, etc and all the other rationalizations ( most of which likely orginate from sheer envy) is just plain stupid--- Dont judge a person's legal actions until you have been in his shoes......... Go fishing-- it more productive than this thread.... :P
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And if I may be so bold-- I think that is a hugh pile of ka-ka! ;D
If someone chooses to release any legal fish.. that is totally a personal decision. But to read the whining about the gene pool, they dont taste as good, you are not a big man if you dont release a monster, etc and all the other rationalizations ( most of which likely orginate from sheer envy) is just plain stupid--- Dont judge a person's legal actions until you have been in his shoes......... Go fishing-- it more productive than this thread.... :P
Ditto to that 8)
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After all these years of lurking this is going to be my first post. I have to agree with Rodney's comments earlier in this thread. There are valid arguments to both sides of the debate but really, a tyee of that size is nothing more than a trophy and not a freezer full of meat. Buy a high end camera, snap a few pictures, measure and weigh them but let them go... alive!
I'm very proud of my father in law. Earlier this year he get into a big fish and let it go after getting a picture. It takes a big man to NOT hit something so huge over the head.
For anyone who wants to see his fish, click here:
http://peregrinelodge.com/blog/2010/07/30/july-28-days-catch-report.html
Cheers,
ShaunO
When was that fish caught?
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And if I may be so bold-- I think that is a hugh pile of ka-ka! ;D
If someone chooses to release any legal fish.. that is totally a personal decision. But to read the whining about the gene pool, they dont taste as good, you are not a big man if you dont release a monster, etc and all the other rationalizations ( most of which likely orginate from sheer envy) is just plain stupid--- Dont judge a person's legal actions until you have been in his shoes......... Go fishing-- it more productive than this thread.... :P
X3 A personal decision. No right or wrong.
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And if I may be so bold-- I think that is a hugh pile of ka-ka! Grin
If someone chooses to release any legal fish.. that is totally a personal decision. But to read the whining about the gene pool, they dont taste as good, you are not a big man if you dont release a monster, etc and all the other rationalizations ( most of which likely orginate from sheer envy) is just plain stupid--- Dont judge a person's legal actions until you have been in his shoes......... Go fishing-- it more productive than this thread....
Not always a personal decision. A number of lodges have policies to release fish over a set weight/size.
I don't think anyone is rationalizing their perspective on the matter. Like I said earlier, there are valid arguments to both sides. Not agreeing with an opinion doesn't give you the right to judge it as stupid. I've got thicker skin than you know so don't worry about me.
And yes, I'd rather be fishing. In fact I am leaving to catch high slack at Sand Heads right now so I can continue to fill my freezer.
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i know the guide ,top notch. here is a picture.
http://twitpic.com/2l8jdx
new record??
what about this one:
(http://www.alaska-in-pictures.com/data/media/5/bikini-babe_2293.jpg)
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new record??
what about this one:
(http://www.alaska-in-pictures.com/data/media/5/bikini-babe_2293.jpg)
ZZ Top still getting the women
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Will look great on buddies wall.I have a 30pd Tyee on my wall and it makes a great conversation pc when guests visit,they always want to know the story behind the fish.When im old and can no longer fish i will be able to look up on my walls and smile about the "THE GOOD OLD DAYS".Love the taxidermy!
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Always wonder if these hawgs result from gene mutation causing abnormal growth or mental/instinct problems causing the fish to stay in the ocean way beyond normal. If it's just an abundance of food then great; otherwise removing them from the gene pool may be best. Just an alternate thought. ???
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Will look great on buddies wall.I have a 30pd Tyee on my wall and it makes a great conversation pc when guests visit,they always want to know the story behind the fish.When im old and can no longer fish i will be able to look up on my walls and smile about the "THE GOOD OLD DAYS".Love the taxidermy!
Nowadays you can have better replicas made that are longer-lasting with a few measurements and a photo - no need for the carcass of the fish.
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Nowadays you can have better replicas made that are longer-lasting with a few measurements and a photo - no need for the carcass of the fish.
But then u dont get the meat! My next mount being made now is a fiberglass mount! Still kept the carcass even though its a fibreglass mount for the meat.I agree though my taxidermist has told me the fibreglass mounts are superoir to a skin mount, but a properly done skin mount will last a lifetime. The choice is yours to make.
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I'm curious .Is the fish next to the Bikini a Kenai fish,always wanted to try that flow.Also my opinion is if you can eat a big fish go ahead and kill it, but if your just going to fill your freezer don't.I've never been a big fan of giving away fish cause you got too many in the freezer,just sayen is all 8)
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Heres a sample of some of the tyee's caught in August from Tyee Club - Campbell River
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e16/Currieartworks/IMGP0325.jpg)
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Looks like Peter had his work cut out for him on the 22nd!!! :o
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Heres a sample of some of the tyee's caught in August from Tyee Club - Campbell River
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e16/Currieartworks/IMGP0325.jpg)
wow....quite a few tyees in 2.5 weeks. Impressive! Those big springs sure love the plugs.