Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Weatherby on August 30, 2010, 08:08:05 PM
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Hey all,What are your favorite methods of casting a centerpin?This fall will be my first season of centerpining ,and I'm looking to improve my casting before I go to the water. Does anyone use the modified wallis cast?
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Go to youtube and type in centerpin casting.
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I have done that...checked out some videos.Just wondering what everyone's preferences are.
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It's entirely dependent on the location. In precipitous canyon-like areas I spool out a bunch of line and toss it, if I'm fishing structured slow moving water I do the same. If I'm fishing runs in the lower part of the Vedder I do a normal cast.. The wallis cast or whatever it's called adds a whole lot of twist to your line and it's not particularly effective for me anyway.
J
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long rod (over 11 feet) plus a regular cast works for me.
allow your gear to start falling before flipping it into the water.
I found side-casting easier to do at first.
Go with a big wooden float and a couple inches of pencil lead. More weight is easier to cast further at first.
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don't bother with the wallis cast, i think it's retarded and inaccurate...
best to stick with the BC cast and use your ring finger to control the release so you don't nest.
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the wallis cast doesn't cause line twisting!. it is also very accurate if u know how to do it properly. one of the advantages of the wallis is being able to cast extremely light rigs far distances. not the best cast for beginners but if u have experience with a pin you should try and learn to do it properly. i can guarantee you wont be sorry .
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The hard part about googling how to cast a centerpin, is most of what they show is wallis and other unique casts usually originating from the UK.
There are uses for some but generally on rivers around here such as the vedder, people use a side cast, sometimes called a bc cast. Start with the rod behind you to your side, let go of the spool, swing it out towards the river, use your finger to control over running of the spool and stop it slightly before hitting the water.
Brian hit the two key points when learning. Using extra weight will help while learning. When the rod is behind you, let go of the reel so it starts spinning before you start to swing your rod towards the water.
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Thanks guys.Ive been on the water once...kind of got the hang of the side cast...I'll just work on my accuracey with that and im sure i'll be fine.
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this might be repeated
what is the best rod suggestion for a centerpin (let say Islander Steelheader) for Vedder?
thanks
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dont go asking about whats everyones rod preferences ::) your gonna get so many choices you will be overwhelmed. I will just give you a brief overview of what alot of guys are using for length and the rods power rating (stated by the first number in most rods cases)
most people use 10'6" - 12' rods ranging from a 2 power up to a 4 power. A good all around rod is a 3113M
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Go to youtube and type in centerpin casting.
I did that and it told me to buy a real fishing reel like this one:
(http://www.stripersonline.com/ubb547/image_uploads4/6500CS-Rocket-2a.jpg)
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the wallis cast doesn't cause line twisting!. it is also very accurate if u know how to do it properly. one of the advantages of the wallis is being able to cast extremely light rigs far distances. not the best cast for beginners but if u have experience with a pin you should try and learn to do it properly. i can guarantee you wont be sorry .
neither does the bc cast if you know how to control the spin...to boot, it's less tiring because you're using both arms for leverage...wallis cast is good on smaller rivers try casting like that all day (on the vedder) and let's see how long you last.
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neither does the bc cast if you know how to control the spin...to boot, it's less tiring because you're using both arms for leverage...wallis cast is good on smaller rivers try casting like that all day (on the vedder) and let's see how long you last.
99% of the time I use the modified Wallace cast and I can cast farther and more accurately than the BC cast. blaydRnr why is it if people don't agree then it's always "retarded" or dumb? You really remind me of a guy that I bumped into on the vedder last fall...
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I did that and it told me to buy a real fishing reel like this one:
(http://www.stripersonline.com/ubb547/image_uploads4/6500CS-Rocket-2a.jpg)
lol! not this debate again!! ;)
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.wallis cast is good on smaller rivers try casting like that all day (on the vedder) and let's see how long you last
the vedder is a smaller river imo.... i don't know why people say the wallace is such an exerting cast it requires the same or less energy than the basic pin cast. your probably not doing it right... are u sure your not doing the wall-less cast?
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correct me if Im wrong, you cannot use a wallace cast if you have a caged centerpin reel right?
I use a hardy Silex, I practiced my casting in the park...I found alot of the youtube videos to be little help to me..mostly because they're were using casts on open reels that I could not perform with my caged reel.
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correct me if Im wrong, you cannot use a wallace cast if you have a caged centerpin reel right?
I use a hardy Silex, I practiced my casting in the park...I found alot of the youtube videos to be little help to me..mostly because they're were using casts on open reels that I could not perform with my caged reel.
Ive never tried with a silex but my buddy has one and he was doing the wallis easily enough.
Once you learn to wallis cast you wont do the bc cast nearly as much. there is less effort in a wallis cast than a bc cast. There should be no line twist if your doing it right..
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hmm I'll have to give that a try in the park before I head out this fall
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99% of the time I use the modified Wallace cast and I can cast farther and more accurately than the BC cast. blaydRnr why is it if people don't agree then it's always "retarded" or dumb? You really remind me of a guy that I bumped into on the vedder last fall...
hey i was giving my personal opinion and expressing it the way i feel...please don't give it anymore meaning than that... i wasn't calling anyone retarded or dumb, but you seem to insinuate that i'm always making derogatory comments towards forum members.
if you feel i'm out of line please substantiate your claims and feel free to report me to the administrator or modifier.
so i remind you of a guy that you bumped into on the vedder?...obviously an unpleasant experience that you're using as a metaphor to make a personal attack on me...all because i don't agree with the use of the Wallace Cast... now who's the hypocrite?
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99% of the time I use the modified Wallace cast and I can cast farther and more accurately than the BC cast. blaydRnr why is it if people don't agree then it's always "retarded" or dumb? You really remind me of a guy that I bumped into on the vedder last fall...
38 posts and already you know my history?... how many of my 800+ posts have you read to justify what you've stated about me? you say if someone doesn't agree with me i always describe their comment as "RETARDED" or "DUMB"... maybe you need to give your head a shake before you make false statements like that on this forum.
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Using the term "retarded" to describe anyone or anything is in bad taste, especially on a public forum. blaydRnr, if you had avoided that term to start with I don't think anyone would have pointed out your comments as being out of line.
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Post counts are nothing but a count of how many posts a person has made. I could make 1000 posts a month would that make me a better fisherman or forum member? No, it would just mean that I post a lot. You don't need a high post count to know a persons history either, it would be as simple as being a lurker before signing up or making a post. The thing about reminding me of a guy I bumped into on the vedder isn't a personal attack, it's just how type up your posts. You reminded me of an event which happened last fall that I had forgotten about. This guy was preaching to a person who he had brought with him on how to fish this piece of water for coho. What color of wool to use, where to catch them, how center pins are for beeks and that level winds will give a fish a better chance of survival if released. Then a few casts later he has a wild doe pinned on the beach 20' from water. I revived the fish which took about 10 mins and it did not swim off very strongly. The whole time I was reviving the fish this individual was yelling saying I don't know how to revive fish and that I should put my gear down and fight him. The whole situation was rather humorous to me as I had 5 other friends there with me at that time, the sad part is that that wild doe probably did not make it to spawn as she was really battered from being dragged up the rocks pinned to the ground and carried around by the gill plates from this guy. That's what you reminded me of, not some hidden feelings like CK is hoping for lol
CK I wasn't being an e-thug I just asked a question, go back and reread my post.
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Post counts are nothing but a count of how many posts a person has made. I could make 1000 posts a month would that make me a better fisherman or forum member? No, it would just mean that I post a lot. You don't need a high post count to know a persons history either, it would be as simple as being a lurker before signing up or making a post. The thing about reminding me of a guy I bumped into on the vedder isn't a personal attack, it's just how type up your posts. You reminded me of an event which happened last fall that I had forgotten about. This guy was preaching to a person who he had brought with him on how to fish this piece of water for coho. What color of wool to use, where to catch them, how center pins are for beeks and that level winds will give a fish a better chance of survival if released. Then a few casts later he has a wild doe pinned on the beach 20' from water. I revived the fish which took about 10 mins and it did not swim off very strongly. The whole time I was reviving the fish this individual was yelling saying I don't know how to revive fish and that I should put my gear down and fight him. The whole situation was rather humorous to me as I had 5 other friends there with me at that time, the sad part is that that wild doe probably did not make it to spawn as she was really battered from being dragged up the rocks pinned to the ground and carried around by the gill plates from this guy. That's what you reminded me of, not some hidden feelings like CK is hoping for lol
CK I wasn't being an e-thug I just asked a question, go back and reread my post.
wow, so you assessed my whole character based on one remark i made...then you say you've been a lurker for awhile now and because of that you determined my profile to be of a "know it all"....last i checked, non contributing members/lurkers have limited access to certain areas of this forum....however, you are right, high number posts don't mean squat...but when you state i'm always referring to disagreed points as "RETARDED" or "DUMB", the least you can do is back that accusation by listing the many other times i've been quoted making those remarks.
further more, comparing me to an idiot on the river without ever having met or had direct conversation with me shows your own lack of character.
by the way, high number posts also means participation, whether for better or worse... at least it's better than being a leech.
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I don't feel like contributing further to side tracking this thread if you would like to continue I believe my email is in my profile...