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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Matt B. on July 11, 2010, 02:20:28 PM

Title: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 11, 2010, 02:20:28 PM
hi, im new to this forum and am gonna be flying from Texas to british columbia the 25th of july ill be up there for almost a month and was wanting to catch some salmon. i will be in cowichan bay on the island for some most the time and in hope for about 6 days. i was wondering what is the best way to catch salmon in hope on the fraiser? also what gear would i need? what should i look for in the river? is there any good spots i should try? any help would be really apricated!! i also am only 16 so i dont have much money. and one more thing i dont care what kind of salmon i catch i just want to catch some!

Thanks,
Matt
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 11, 2010, 03:37:39 PM
Please somebody! I need help or im gonna have to try to learn on my own
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: roeman on July 11, 2010, 04:35:31 PM
Best thing to do is go into a local tackle shop, they can point you in the right direction as far as what to use and where to fish.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: rides bike to work on July 11, 2010, 06:38:48 PM
Near hope you can cast spoons in the mouth of jones creek or american creek up the canyon or get a bar rig and fish spin and glows on the main river there are lots of bars you can access from hope good luck.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: ynot on July 11, 2010, 07:47:36 PM
they might open sockeye begining of aug. and hope is a good area. on the fraser river. you need a good  spining reel or baitcaster and 10ft rod for salmon and you have to cast 3oz of weight . local stores will fill you in on regs .etc.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: firstlight on July 12, 2010, 08:19:19 PM
Hire a guide for a day foresure. ;)
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: roeman on July 12, 2010, 10:21:19 PM
Hire a guide for a day foresure. ;)
Says he is 16 and not much money..
Don't waste your money on a guide, if sockeye opens just follow the crowd... lol
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: firstlight on July 13, 2010, 08:28:16 AM
Make sure you try Sturgeon fishing while in Hope as well.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 13, 2010, 12:44:29 PM
could i catch sturgeon off the shore? and would a 10'6" Shimano technium, 12#t0 20# Medium Fast, complete with quantum MG Classic reel be big enough for a smaller sturgeon?
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 13, 2010, 12:45:16 PM
Near hope you can cast spoons in the mouth of jones creek or american creek up the canyon or get a bar rig and fish spin and glows on the main river there are lots of bars you can access from hope good luck.

What kind, color, and size of spoons?
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Rodney on July 13, 2010, 02:15:50 PM
Heavier gear is required for sturgeon fishing in the Fraser River because it is impossible to selectively target fish in a particular size class. Whenever you're fishing for sturgeon in the area that you mentioned, you may encounter fish from 1 foot to 10 feet. Majority of the fish that you will encounter are typically between 3 and 6ft long. The outfit that you mentioned will not be sufficient enough. In fact, it may just be borderline for the type of salmon fishing that you'd like to do in the area. Most of the sturgeon fishing is also done from a boat and not so possible from shore.

If you have a chance, head into Fred's Custom Tackle (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/advertiser/fredscustomtackle/index.html) and Chilliwack Dart and Tackle (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/advertiser/chwkdart/index.html) to get the latest local information.

If you only have a day to fish and are able to convince your family, then it is a good idea to try a guided boat trip. A typical guided boat trip is 8 hours long and can be divided into half salmon half sturgeon fishing. It is much more costly than fishing from shore, but the experience is worth it.

Good luck and enjoy your trip here.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 13, 2010, 04:09:48 PM
also i heard jigging for salmon can be productive, anyone have any advice on that? favorite colors?
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: firstlight on July 13, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
Jigging is done in saltwater.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 13, 2010, 04:44:41 PM
i was looking on the internet and it said something about jiging little marabou jigs in the river
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: firstlight on July 13, 2010, 05:55:15 PM
I would imagine they were talking about using them under a float and drift fishing with the maribou jigs.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Bassonator on July 13, 2010, 10:42:15 PM
Here you go bud...Jig fishin in Canada.
http://www.bentrods.ca/jig-fishing.htm (http://www.bentrods.ca/jig-fishing.htm)
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 13, 2010, 11:38:14 PM
Thanks alot guys, yall have been a big help
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: alan on July 14, 2010, 12:42:36 AM
LOL he must be from Texas he said YALL :D
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: slick vic on July 14, 2010, 01:52:23 AM
lol, he said he's flying from Texas to here right at the beginning.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 14, 2010, 10:36:22 AM
yea its true, im from the best state in the United States of america!
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: ricer on July 14, 2010, 05:05:30 PM
only salmon you can catch without guiding or hitching a ride with someone out in the saltchuck is if they open it for sockeye in the fraser.  In this case you will be standing shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of people bottom bouncing for sockeye.  Sockeye don't actually bite so people are "flossing" them. that is they use a long leader that catches in the mouths of the upswimming schools of salmon and the leader slides through their mouth until the hook catches in the "inside" of the mouth.  If a sockeye is foul hooked - snagged anywhere but the mouth - it must be released.  in the past retention has been 2 per day.  If there is a commercial gillnet fishery it is best not to go for 12 - 24 hrs after as the river will be greatly reduced in #'s of salmon.  in order to be succesful you need a lot of fish moving up from a flood tide.  When you are fishing you will see the people fishing down below you start to hook them and the "bite" slowly works it's way up to you.  people will cast way out into the river but don't be afraid to make a few shorter casts to try and locate the school path.  The regs a usually single barbless hook (must have some wool on it - most people use green abut as you are flossing it doesn't really matter)  about a 7-9 ft leader (unless the limit the leader length) to a swivel with a weight (bouncing betty - bring many and different sizes depending on the flow of the river - can be snaggy) then your mainline.  I would use a 12-15lb leader (you need many of these tie ups as well - snaggy) and 20lb mainline.  if it is snaggy you want the leader to break not the mainline and you have to be on the bottom.  Keep your hooks sharp - cast a little upstream and bounce the rig into shore - if it stops or you feel a heaviness to the line, give it a pull).  when casting you have to watch the guy(s) above you and wait till their line comes in to shore before casting over their line.  if you hook a fish, make sure you let everyone know so they can pick up their lines - then drag the fish on to shore at the end - most fish get off right at shore. 

all the best - i tend to stay away from this stuff.
as others said, it would be to your benefit to hook up with someone with a boat to get away from the crowds or get a guide (heck, it is only money!)

if your really lucky you could hook up with a spring salmon (up to 25lbs!)

Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Rodney on July 15, 2010, 01:13:45 AM
Ricer has summed it up pretty well. It comes down to what type of BC fishing experience you are looking for. If you don't mind the "combat" atmosphere for a chance to catch some big chinook salmon and some sockeye salmon (if there is an opening), then the type of fishing that Rice described maybe appealing to you. However, this type of fishing is not a good representation of what British Columbia's fishing is all about. If quality fishing experience rather than quantity of fish is more important to you, then it may not be for you.

The jig fishing technique that you had mentioned earlier is mostly used in tributaries of the Fraser River during fall months. The Fraser River maybe too high for this technique during July and August. You might be able to have some success if it is lower or by trying it at creek mouths.
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: DavidD on July 15, 2010, 09:45:43 AM
Matt, Its a lot of information to digest in a short period of time.  Good Luck and Tight Lines!!

Und let us know how you made out!  :)
Title: Re: frasier river help
Post by: Matt B. on July 15, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
will do!