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Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: rhino on June 10, 2010, 08:47:11 PM
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Hello,
I have decided to head to Roche lake for a weekend July 9th. I have never fly fished any lake before. I would very much appreciate any advice on how to fish this lake at that time of year.
Thanks you in anticipation. :)
R
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chironomids around 20 feet of water will by far give you the most consistent action.
later in the day when chironomids have tailed off, try trolling a small micro leech with sinking line....worked good for me last weekend.
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Thank you. :)
What is the best way to calculate your depth while fly fishing?
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Thank you. :)
What is the best way to calculate your depth while fly fishing?
Put your forceps on the end of your fly line and drop it down. Once it hits bottom measure how much of your fly line is out. I am too lazy to do that though so most of the time I just try and trust my depth sounder.
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Put your forceps on the end of your fly line and drop it down. Once it hits bottom measure how much of your fly line is out. I am too lazy to do that though so most of the time I just try and trust my depth sounder.
Ok. Thank you BB.
If I am fishing chironomids do I strip or twitch the fly once at the right depth or just leave it to hang? Also with leeches, what is the proper retrieval technique?
Sorry if my questions sound ridiculous. I have never done this type of fishing before.
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figure 8 retrieve !!!
i like to let my chironies just dangle unless the water is dead calm then its the figure 8 as well. You wanna move your fly quite slowly. with chironies, if you think your going slow.......SLOW DOWN MORE !!!
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sometimes there are good fly anglers fishing with Chronies. If you watch how they do it you can mimic their actions ( slow ). I even had the good fortune to go when it was early season like now. Wow. Keep an eye out for the big loons. If they grab your trout hang on but do not yank the fly and trout. The loon needs to surface for air and when it does; then pull the fish out of his mouth. By then the trout has been squeezed to death and reeling fast is your only choice. You will then see the amazing teeth marks in the shape of a sharp V on the trouts body. Releasing the trout is usually not an option because the Loon has done the deathly damage to the fish.
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sometimes there are good fly anglers fishing with Chronies. If you watch how they do it you can mimic their actions ( slow ). I even had the good fortune to go when it was early season like now. Wow. Keep an eye out for the big loons. If they grab your trout hang on but do not yank the fly and trout. The loon needs to surface for air and when it does; then pull the fish out of his mouth. By then the trout has been squeezed to death and reeling fast is your only choice. You will then see the amazing teeth marks in the shape of a sharp V on the trouts body. Releasing the trout is usually not an option because the Loon has done the deathly damage to the fish.
Sound like a photo opportunity! Its the loons fish if its in its mouth before my boat! Loons need it more then I do anyways. ;)
Thanks for the info guys.
R
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Yes, keep quiet if loons are around. Just about lost the fish on my profile pic while fishing Tunkwa. The fish was less than a pound but once that loon locked on to my trout my line just kept peeling! I thought it was the true kamloops trout fight, but once i saw the loon rise, i pulled and stripped line as quickly as I could! A lot of fun and great memory on my first interior fish...;D
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I like to fish my chronies without a retrieve. A nice bit of wind creates a chop (chronie chop) on the water which makes your indicator bounce around. Your chronie is doing the same thing underwater and will attract fish all by itself. If there is no wind then I go with an ultra slow retrieve. If I don't get any action I will start to decrease my depth by moving the indicator in one foot increments down the leader. I have been fishing in 20 feet of water but the trout were hitting my chronie in about 9-10 feet. Just keep playing around with depths until you start getting hits.
As for trolling leeches. I find that trolling with a motor is much less effective then trolling by rowing. This is due to the "jigging" effect you get from rowing as opposed to the constant motion of a trolling motor. Be prepared when fishing this way as the takes can be vicious.
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I like to fish my chronies without a retrieve. A nice bit of wind creates a chop (chronie chop) on the water which makes your indicator bounce around. Your chronie is doing the same thing underwater and will attract fish all by itself. If there is no wind then I go with an ultra slow retrieve. If I don't get any action I will start to decrease my depth by moving the indicator in one foot increments down the leader. I have been fishing in 20 feet of water but the trout were hitting my chronie in about 9-10 feet. Just keep playing around with depths until you start getting hits.
As for trolling leeches. I find that trolling with a motor is much less effective then trolling by rowing. This is due to the "jigging" effect you get from rowing as opposed to the constant motion of a trolling motor. Be prepared when fishing this way as the takes can be vicious.
You can get the same effect with a trolling motor. Just give the motor some short bursts. Does the same thing and just as effective.
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Thank you all for the info. Look forward to chronie fishing for the first time!
as far as my timing goes (july 9th and 10th) should I be fishing deeper if it is hotter out by then?Does it matter?
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More than Likely, look in the 20 - 35 foot range at this time of year
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Was at Roche over the weekend. Caught a decent number of trout but nothing too big. Interestingly many of the trout we caught were coloured up and one was spitting roe everywhere. I thought that Roche was full of Triploids (which I understand are sterile). There must be a breeding population of rainbows at Roche as well.
There were very few chronomids coming off over the weekend. The weather was hot in the morning followed by thunderstorms in the afternoon. Maybe this had something to do with the lack of bugs? I am not sure. Everyone I spoke to was also unable to find a substantial hatch and found the fishing somewhat slow. Some sedges around and lots of rising trout. Most fish were caught trolling leeches which is my least favorite method of fishing. I only caught a few on the chronies and left somewhat disappointed.
Lots of Bears around there right now. Always a treat!
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Was at Roche over the weekend. Caught a decent number of trout but nothing too big. Interestingly many of the trout we caught were coloured up and one was spitting roe everywhere. I thought that Roche was full of Triploids (which I understand are sterile). There must be a breeding population of rainbows at Roche as well.
There were very few chronomids coming off over the weekend. The weather was hot in the morning followed by thunderstorms in the afternoon. Maybe this had something to do with the lack of bugs? I am not sure. Everyone I spoke to was also unable to find a substantial hatch and found the fishing somewhat slow. Some sedges around and lots of rising trout. Most fish were caught trolling leeches which is my least favorite method of fishing. I only caught a few on the chronies and left somewhat disappointed.
Lots of Bears around there right now. Always a treat!
Although they dont spawn they still get colored as if they do.
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Was at Roche over the weekend. Caught a decent number of trout but nothing too big. Interestingly many of the trout we caught were coloured up and one was spitting roe everywhere. I thought that Roche was full of Triploids (which I understand are sterile). There must be a breeding population of rainbows at Roche as well.
Approximately 66% of the fish stocked into Roche are actually Diploid, each year it get 15000 diploid fish and 7500 triploid
Jordan
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"As for trolling leeches. I find that trolling with a motor is much less effective then trolling by rowing. This is due to the "jigging" effect you get from rowing as opposed to the constant motion of a trolling motor. Be prepared when fishing this way as the takes can be vicious."
I agree with this advice, rowing imparts a much more realistic motion than motors, and is good exercise.
Rowing is like a constant retrieve with your fly never leaving the water.
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Rowing, Generally the way that I like to fish. One line always in the water, a little casting with the other.
Definitely no need to use the electric all the time. I generally just use the electric to help handle the wind, or to get in/out quicker.
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Although they dont spawn they still get colored as if they do.
Only boys get coloured.
"Female triploids are hormonally and functionally sterile (i.e. no development of functional oocytes (eggs), and no behaviour changes). Male triploids are sterile but still produce hormones that cause changes associated with maturation including deterioration of flesh quality, early mortality and the development of testes and other secondary sex characteristics. In addition, they demonstrate "false" spawning behaviour, including migration and interactions with other fish on the spawning beds regardless of their inability to reproduce. This behavior can potentially displace wild functionally reproductive males, possibly reducing the fitness of the wild population."
http://www.gofishbc.com/maxperformance.htm
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Hey Rhino, I am going to be at Roche from the 9-12th I will be in a 12` Spratley, look me up while you are there and I can give you some pointers
Rick
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Rowing, Generally the way that I like to fish. One line always in the water, a little casting with the other.
Definitely no need to use the electric all the time. I generally just use the electric to help handle the wind, or to get in/out quicker.
I have been thinking about a motor for that use too, but definitely not for trolling.
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Hey Rhino, I am going to be at Roche from the 9-12th I will be in a 12` Spratley, look me up while you are there and I can give you some pointers
Rick
Thanks Rick. I will defiantly look for you. I will be there for friday morning. see you then. :)
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nice I am heading up Thursday night and will be on the water first thing Friday
see you up there
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nice I am heading up Thursday night and will be on the water first thing Friday
see you up there
Lucky you. I wont make it on the water till about 7:30 or 8am.
I cant wait to fly fish a lake for the first time! ;D ;D
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Actually I will be sleeping until 8 or so, the fish don't really start a good bite on that lake until 9:30 or so, no need to get up too early
supposed to be 35 degrees this weekend in Kamloops !! bring sun screen
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Oh yeah I almost forgot....... Chrionomid fishing is key on Roche if you wanna get into the big ones.... look up Pornomid.. and then get to a fly shop and buy some, they catch more fish than any other fly