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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: trout80 on March 27, 2010, 03:52:10 PM

Title: buntzen or jones
Post by: trout80 on March 27, 2010, 03:52:10 PM
Hey, just wondering if anyone has been to buntzen or jones lately if so how did it go? Thx.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: D.Sams on March 27, 2010, 07:07:42 PM
The last time I was out to Buntzen was Tuesday March 9th and only then for a couple of hours.  Was only able to pull a small one (10") from the SW shoreline on a black leech pattern.

Good luck!

Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: trout80 on March 27, 2010, 07:59:20 PM
Thanks I might give it a go next weekend hopefully they will stock it by then. Gotta say I'm dissapointed in the stocking program so far this year. Hope its not a set up to try to justify fee hikes.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: Bassonator on March 27, 2010, 09:17:57 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how some people get upset because a lake is not stocked. What ever happened to the good ole days when you went to a lake not knowing if you were going to get anything, the joy of the hunt, figuring out what they were going to hit today, the skill involved in trying to get that fish to bite. Now dont get me wrong stocking a lake is a great idea especially in town, teaching the kids to fish is a great thing, but if you head out and get nothig so what, you were out on a lake or stream away from the hustle and bustle of life, thats all that should matter, not stewing or whining because a lake hasn't been stocked yet, theres a lot of places in the world that arent has blessed as we are here in BC.
Just my 2 bits worth.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: trout80 on March 27, 2010, 10:32:56 PM
Just for the record bassonator I'm not WHINING. I just don't trust that they might be holding back on stocking and claiming short staffing is the reason so they can raise fees again.Lets face it this province has been raising the costs of all things without providing more services. In fact they keep cutting them.Oh and if they did not stock our local lakes they would soon be empty your "good ole days" are just that old days.Having said that I also feel they have so far been doing a great job.We'll see what the future brings.
     CHEERS
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on March 27, 2010, 11:01:10 PM
Just for the record bassonator I'm not WHINING. I just don't trust that they might be holding back on stocking and claiming short staffing is the reason so they can raise fees again.Lets face it this province has been raising the costs of all things without providing more services. In fact they keep cutting them.Oh and if they did not stock our local lakes they would soon be empty your "good ole days" are just that old days.Having said that I also feel they have so far been doing a great job.We'll see what the future brings.
     CHEERS

So for under $40 for a years license you expect the world? C'mon be real. Even if they raised it $10-$20 your still getting your monies worth. The LM lakes are not the only ones stocked you know. They have already stocked many of the Island lakes and as Rodney has already pointed out they start the stocking for the local lakes next week. If your really interested and want to educate yourself before complaining than why didnt you call the hatchery before making a comment like that? It never ceases to amaze me what people expect for peanuts.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: Rodney on March 27, 2010, 11:12:12 PM
What fee hike?
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: trout80 on March 27, 2010, 11:30:43 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how people jump to their own conclusions. AS I said I'm not complaining just hoping.If you read what I said you'll see  I think they have been doin a great job. Oh and who said I expected anything.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: trout80 on March 27, 2010, 11:34:17 PM
I know the hatchery has already said they are understaffed and that is probably true. I respect that they are doing the best they can.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on March 28, 2010, 08:26:08 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how people jump to their own conclusions. AS I said I'm not complaining just hoping.If you read what I said you'll see  I think they have been doin a great job. Oh and who said I expected anything.

You jumped to conclusions when you said you were worried about a fee hike. 
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: jimmywits on March 28, 2010, 09:43:14 AM
Anyone been to Jones Lake?
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: lucky on March 28, 2010, 09:45:16 AM
Why shouldn't we have a sense of entitlement? After all we are paying for the fish aren't we?

If the government wants to increase angler participation why are they a month behind in their stockings? To me it looks like someone at the hatchery has dropped the ball. If it's simply a case of being short staffed why not solicit for volunteers like other hatcheries do?

As I understand it the costs of raising fish are quite high, now with one of the mildest winters on record why wouldn't they want to get the fish into the lakes as early as possible to save on rearing costs.

Btw, not everyone is happy to just float around on the lake all day looking at birds, some people go fishing to catch fish! Especially those with young children who are new to the sport.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: nineweight on March 28, 2010, 10:30:12 AM
I just wanted to remind you guys that the stocking program is delivered by the Freshwater Fisheries Society of BC (a non for profit society) not the province as eluded to multiple times in this thread.

A number of variables come into play when stocking a lake.  This is why a stocking plan is not released to the public until the lake has already been stocked.  The plan often has to change last minute.  You only have to go back to 2007 in the stocking records to see a year when the Lower Mainland urban lake stocking did not start until the last week of March.  The fish are on their way, and lots of them.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: lucky on March 28, 2010, 10:41:16 AM
This is why a stocking plan is not released to the public until the lake has already been stocked.

Really?

http://www.gofishbc.com/r2plans.htm


Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: nineweight on March 28, 2010, 10:47:48 AM
This is why a stocking plan is not released to the public until the lake has already been stocked.

Really?

http://www.gofishbc.com/r2plans.htm







Lucky,

Sorry I wasnt clear.  I am referring to a detailed plan as to when the lakes will be stocked, as per the topic being discussed.  There are no dates on that list.  
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on March 28, 2010, 01:49:22 PM
Why shouldn't we have a sense of entitlement? After all we are paying for the fish aren't we?

If the government wants to increase angler participation why are they a month behind in their stockings? To me it looks like someone at the hatchery has dropped the ball. If it's simply a case of being short staffed why not solicit for volunteers like other hatcheries do?

As I understand it the costs of raising fish are quite high, now with one of the mildest winters on record why wouldn't they want to get the fish into the lakes as early as possible to save on rearing costs.

Btw, not everyone is happy to just float around on the lake all day looking at birds, some people go fishing to catch fish! Especially those with young children who are new to the sport.

I have 3 kids. I brought my 4 year old last week. We caught nothing but he had a great time just learning. I explained to him that its part of the fun. If you catch something or not its fun to just try and do your best to try and trick the fish into biting. Some days you catch something some days you dont and thats why we keep coming back.

 We are paying next to nothing. Show me the detailed numbers of how much it costs to stock every lake and river they stock with trout ( not salmon or steelhead ) and than come back with the detailed numbers of how much they make on the sales of freshwater licences ( without any tags ) than we can see what we are entitled to.

One more thing, they are not late with the stocking for the entire province just the Lower Mainland.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: jeff on March 28, 2010, 03:00:24 PM
Hey BB2000 what age were your kids when you started bring them along fishing?
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on March 28, 2010, 03:18:43 PM
Hey BB2000 what age were your kids when you started bring them along fishing?

I usually start them off at the age of 3. They can fully understand whats going on at that age. I took my 4 year old in the boat for the first time last weekend. He turned 4 in January. I am a bit of a safety nut so some may bring their kids in a boat at a younger age but I just play things safe. Now if we were talking a large boat ( 16 foot plus ) I may bring a kid in at a younger age but with a 10 footer I wouldnt.

When they are 3 we just do some shore fishing for an hour or two just to get them comfortable. I usually bring some of their toys with us as well so when they get bored they can do other things while they wait for the bite. I have a 13 year old son and tried it with him but he never got into it and even when he was young never got excited about it. My 4 year old son is always very excited to go no matter what. My 8 year old daughter is a girlie girl and has no interest in fishing. She finds it boring and too much like something a boy would do LOL
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: jimmywits on March 29, 2010, 09:52:11 AM
Quote We are paying next to nothing. Show me the detailed numbers of how much it costs to stock every lake and river they stock with trout ( not salmon or steelhead ) and than come back with the detailed numbers of how much they make on the sales of freshwater licences ( without any tags ) than we can see what we are entitled to.

There is an article by Bill Otway in this month's edition of BC Outdoors sport fishing page 8, on this very subject. The title is Government Profit Large from Sport  Fishing. It is based on the November report released by the Fresh Water Fisheries Society of BC titled  "Freshwater Sport Fishing in British Columbia report." It is a good informative read.

Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: Britguy on March 29, 2010, 11:40:10 AM

Quote
Hey, just wondering if anyone has been to buntzen or jones lately if so how did it go? Thx.
trout80 try asking your question on the report section then someone may answer it :-\
This is general discussion so hence the off topic replies ;)
hope this helps :)
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: Rodney on March 29, 2010, 11:46:49 AM
trout80 try asking your question on the report section then someone may answer it :-\
This is general discussion so hence the off topic replies ;)

No please don't do that. The fishing report section is for fishing reports only and we always move all questions into the general discussion.

Trout80 already got his answer anyway, fishing at both lakes are equally poor judging by how many cranky replies he received. ;)

I'm still curious on what recent fee hikes people are referring to.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: Britguy on March 29, 2010, 12:07:43 PM
sorry Rod I thought i was giving good advice, but now I am confused
So if someone asks for a report say on a lake it has to be in the general discussion section, then if someone reports on the lake, you will then move it to the reports section?
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: Rodney on March 29, 2010, 12:16:28 PM
it's not always black and white of course. Answers to the question will just stay in the same thread without being moved to the fishing report section because usually the answers are not specific. We want to keep the fishing reports section with just that, fishing reports, which have locations (either specific or generic) and dates indicated so it is a systematic archive that readers can refer back to.
Title: Re: buntzen or jones
Post by: Britguy on March 31, 2010, 10:45:03 AM
Ok :)