Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: jetboatjim on February 09, 2010, 09:23:06 PM
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how long do you like your butt ??? whoa not that one...
how much cork do you like as a butt on your pin rod ?...from the reel seat back ???
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I've always liked about 5 1/2" cork plus the butt box - total length of 7" from bottom of reel seat to bottom of butt box. Any longer and I find it's always in the way - sticking into my fat gut, etc... ;D When I was younger I used to only have about 4" total behind the reel seat - that worked great too on small streams with not much wind up required.
Cheers
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4'' usually.
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4-6 inches is perfect.
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the shorter the better......3 1/2 is perfect with a down lock seat....
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I think my current rod has about 4-6" but I think I'd prefer something longer. A longer butt section would allow you to tuck it into your gut or under your arm while battling a fish and therefore reduce the pressure on your wrist. Think of something more like a mooching rod.
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Eleven Inches on this Custom Built Rogue (12.5 feet long):
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/3_Feet_Of_Muscle.jpg)
No gut to speak of ;D as I'm a somewhat wiry Redneck.
Extra length comes in quite handy for some of the more difficult places to fish from. Makes long tosses easier IMHO.
And allows the rod to "Double-Duty" as a Spey when required.
As always, your mileage may vary... ;)
Cheers,
Nog
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my sage was built at searun, 6inches from cork to butt, but another 2 inches from there to where the reel sets in. concrete finishing has done my wrist in so any added support is great.
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I have my 2 pins on sliding reel seats so I adjust them at times. Like Iron says, the longer butt is better for casting long. Hey that is a nice buck, Iron. My buddy hit a 17 1/2 lb monster last week at the Vedder.
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I have a 9 nich sometimes I wish it was shorter, but like Dion said when fighting fish its nice and long casts are nice with the longer but, maybe its time to go to a slideing reel seat................... ???
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so what does everyone think about rings, or sliding seats?
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I found that I'm way more comfortable with the sliding seat and the reel up high on the handle. I like the slider because if I happen to mess up my centerpin I can simple spin the seat around and hook up the levelwind that I keep in my vest for a back up.
Too many options with the sliding seat to ignore.
This is on a 3113MB
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I like my reels a little higher up so I can tuck the butt section into my lower armpit area.
Not sure on the measurement,but definitely higher up than normal.
Makes for real easy casts and the arms don't get as tired after long days of casting because of the little bit of leaverage.
Its one of those personal choice things for each individual.
But I'll have to agree with Nog on this one .
This set up is on my 4120.
Rando
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personally prefer longer
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personally prefer the shorter rears ,I build them between 3.5 to six depending on hand size and the reel its being matched to.
I always lean towards rings and will never ever build a rod for myself with plastic fugi cra...er garbage seats again. if its a fixed real seat
then a quality w footing is the absolute bomb for good looks and light weight.
cheers
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I had an extension put on a light Trophy pin-rod to use on smaller flows.
It is about 14 inches from back of the seat to the tip of the butt.
Being able to tuck it under my arm was the idea and it is now very comfy and super light.
I dont know how them guys can fish with there arms extended out all day like they do with the short butt section.
I figure if i need my tip to be that high off the water i should have bought a longer rod. ;D
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I have a 9 nich sometimes I wish it was shorter, but like Dion said when fighting fish its nice and long casts are nice with the longer but, maybe its time to go to a slideing reel seat................... ???
--if getting custom made why not try a but extension like on a fly rod? should allow for different sizes if you don't want to use sliding seat.
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swiftwater just built me a rod, 15 in the front, 5 on the back. Sweet stick IMO
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/droussanidis/P2210137.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/droussanidis/P2210138.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/droussanidis/P2210132.jpg)
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4.5" but the rod that I'm currently using the builder messed up and did 5.5" but I actually kinda like it now
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What do these custom rods set you guys back? I am thinking of doing one.
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that all depends on what you use for components. you could use a rainshadow/forecast blank and spend around 120 bucks. or you could buy say a sage at around 280. then you can get into a myriad of different cork,guides and reel seat. commonly it will cost you around 300 bucks for the finished rod not including your blank. One thing i cannot stress enough is to use QUALITY guides. do it once do it right, dont cheap out and regret it later on. put some good tic gudes on it and you will be happy. as swiftwater says a W fitting is ideal, but struble reel seats are a nice option as well.
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i have several sages with fugi cheepy guides and i regret it. will be upgrading in the future.
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that rod there cost me $320. Got a deal on just about everything from the blank, to components, guides, line check, hook ring, butt cap, reel seat, cork.
My next rod will probably be a lami 10'6 6-10lb.
Should cost about the same, different cork work with a stainless reel seat.
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I have a IST1263 built up quite nicely with good components. Cost me $415. It is a sweet stick... My buddy who fishes a sage 3106LB is envious :o
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that fenwick 1263 is a pimp rod.
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The custom built rods can be built with sliding reel seats right? And if so does anyone have any good or bad things to say about them, I am in the market for a new CP rod and are having a tough time deciding, sliding reel seats is something I have been thinking about, but I am not sure any help would be great thanks.
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hardy "W" fitting and pegley davis ring...
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/jetboatjimmy/IMGP0309.jpg)
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jim, wats the length from the "W" fitting itself and the bottom of the butt?
thats a big reel
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All my CP rods are custom made for the very reason I like a short butt. I have the Struble Reels seats that are up locking. From the rear of the reel seat to the butt cap, my butt pieces are 9 cork rings (4 1/2 inches). I find that works well for me.