Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: ion on November 20, 2009, 04:32:48 PM
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Why is chumming illegal?
Wouldn't be a good thing to give some food to fish or the other aquatic creatures?
Wouldn't plenty of natural food benefit fish ultimately?
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Assuming you are talking about using chumming in the fishing sense...
Because it lures fish in.... ::)
Think of kokanee on Kawkawa lake, they feed on krill.
Chum the water with alot of krill, school comes in to feed (you are also using krill) and you whipe out the whole school.
It is there to give fish a chance just like natural bait cannot be used on some rivers, it gives fish a sporting chance.
Do you think it is ok to bait a bear if you are hunting?
If you are just referring to feeding fish without fishing while doing so....
It will give fish a reliancy on humans. Its th reason why they have signs up all over provincial parks "do not feed the animals." They want the animals to live on their own.
Either way it is not good for the fish.
Just let nature do its own thing.
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ED, you're jumping ahead a little bit. Ion is simply asking, not suggesting that he wants chumming to be legal.
Anyway, there is one other reason that has been missed, which is eutrophication, enrichment of nutrient in a lake. Chumming in freshwater fisheries would become a form of organic pollution if done too widely.
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Then there's the chumming that I do when I'm out in rough seas. :)
Curse my fragile constitution.
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Chumming the water in Florida at sea is how most people fish.
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I am not very sure about water pollution, because there is the example of carp fishing.
The carp fisherman (in other parts of the world) are chumming using kilograms of bait: corn, boilies (mix of wheat and lots of things), worms, maggots etc, and they have no worries about polluting the water. On the other hand, carp is a piggy creature, and they eat everything edible there may be.
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Does anybody know when this rule was introduced? Was it before daily quotas to indirectly limit the number of fish you catch?
The rules are made for our benefit and can be changed.
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ED, nevermind.
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ED, nevermind.
LOL
He had him pegged from the start.
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You shouldn't feed animals in a zoo, because they become obese and make teeth cavities.
Also, in a reservation, you don't want to change wild animals habits.
Now take the example of a small stocked lake like Como lake, where you put in 2000 fish at once.
They are starving there...
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Do you love FISH or FISHING?
This is the question...
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Do you love FISH or FISHING?
This is the question...
Chumming has nothing to do with loving fish. It has to do with making the catching part easier....
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nets work good too :D
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Chumming has nothing to do with loving fish. It has to do with making the catching part easier....
Thinking a little bit more about Como Lake situation: actually starving fish are easier to catch and willing to bite anything
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Now I've got it ;D
Lets say, early in the morning, some guy is chumming a place with, lets say 1kg of maggots;
In couple of hours he is going to catch lots of fish, and of course, release them all. Lots of fun.
Later on, anybody fishing the place with anything different than maggots, catches nothing;
It's like a personal hatch ;D
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Organic pollution or eutrophication results in algal bloom and depletion of dissolved oxygen, the condition is not suitable for salmonid species that require clear, cold and oxygen-rich waters. On the other hand, carp and other Cyprinidae species survive well under these conditions.
The objective of chumming is to attract fish with scent, not to feed the fish in the process. Most of the material used in chum dissolve quickly in the water. It is not consumed and becomes dissolved nutrient, the ingredient for eutrophication.
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Chumming probably works great... but its illegal, so to get around that, look for natural situations in which natural "chumming" occurs- downstream of spawning salmon for bulls and trout, for trout feeding on adult mayflies- downwind of a hatch for dries, for sharks- down current from a swimming lesson for hemophiliacs, and so on.
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Chumming probably works great... but its illegal, so to get around that, look for natural situations in which natural "chumming" occurs- downstream of spawning salmon for bulls and trout, for trout feeding on adult mayflies- downwind of a hatch for dries, for sharks- down current from a swimming lesson for hemophiliacs, and so on.
Brilliant ;D ;D ;D
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nets work good too :D
dynamite works even better!! ;D ;D ;D ;D lol
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ED, nevermind.
Lol ;D
The way he asked it gave it away... you're too nice and always assume the best case :)
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Lol ;D
The way he asked it gave it away... you're too nice and always assume the best case :)
I am not shure what you mean...
If I question a rule that doesn't mean I don't follow it, or advice others to do so;
What's your problem?
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This is for ion - Page 9 from the Freshwater Synopsis "Chumming... attempting to attract fish by depositing any substance in the water, is prohibited."
Yeah, is PROHIBITED!!!
Beacuse is prohibited, it is WRONG!!!
YOU don't do on waters what you think is good or bad, you fish by the rules!!!
Now, my question was, why is illegal (prohibited)...
Hope this makes things clear
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It is not wrong....Its a good rule. Have you not read anything that Rodney has been typing in this thread? Go back and read why chumming is bad from Rodney sheesh... ::)
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Up and fishing...
It's no long until fishing or hunting will be considered animal cruelty...
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Don't feed the troll, nothing he posts is making sense.
Your right I could not even understand his last post.
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OK, here's some REAL CHUMMING....is this what he's talking about ??? ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNTw7GH325U&feature=player_embedded
-Steve
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Can not believe a bird can find and use a tool when fishing. :o
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Then there's the chumming that I do when I'm out in rough seas. :)
Curse my fragile constitution.
LOL
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--as a general rule I agree to no chumming.
--However is some areas it should be considered for exemption.
--Artificial lakes with no outlet, such as those private lakes in Europe that are course fishing sport clubs.
--These are usually shallow warm water ponds which are fished from shore
--I think there is opportunity for some of these ponds as fishing opportunities in urban areas to introduce people to fishing and for those who seek to fish carp and other species.
--I think chumming is allowed in other provinces for carp fishing.. at least I've seen them do it on TV shows in Alberta.. doesn't necessarily mean it is legal.
--any feeding of fish should be left to fisheries biologists, if and when required.
--it would be to easy to introduce pathogins or other intentioned pollutants.
--as with all ethic of fishing and fair play... dragging your unnecessary shuffling of your feet to intentionally dislodge material in a stream or river is chumming so don't do it. Ice fishers often seem to lose a lot of bait down the hole etc. If really uptight about it maybe using a pound of bait for sturgeon is really chumming although not illegal at this time
--ten fishers on a 30 ft boat each with a rod and bait down for halibut is another legal way to chum
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"I think he should move to Europe where its legal. "
Now if you want "international confrontation", it's not necessary to go that far, down in states there are places where you can chum for trout at your heart desire...
It's interesting how different places in the world, have different fishing rules. Maybe more of a tradition, is this what you mean?
Also, would be nice to keep DISCUSSING on a topic replaying where the subject started, and not spreading replays all over the forum.
The video is awesome.
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Fisherforever, a lot of people on fishing sites are completely illiterate. ;D ;D That is why they cannot read the regulations. ;D
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Fisherforever, a lot of people on fishing sites are completely illiterate. ;D ;D That is why they cannot read the regulations. ;D
With the way this guy talks their may be some truth to that.......
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"I think he should move to Europe where its legal. "
Now if you want "international confrontation", it's not necessary to go that far, down in states there are places where you can chum for trout at your heart desire...
It's interesting how different places in the world, have different fishing rules. Maybe more of a tradition, is this what you mean?
Also, would be nice to keep DISCUSSING on a topic replaying where the subject started, and not spreading replays all over the forum.
The video is awesome.
What's a replay?????