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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Catch44 on November 01, 2009, 04:02:35 PM
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Steelhead soon?....When does steelhead start and when is it in full bloom?...And me being kinda of a newb, would love to hear about tips and good combo's and catching them and where they like to sit any advice would be awesome and not just for me but others as well im sure...Also..whats the biggest anyone has caught?..
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use the SEARCH function and im sure you will get more info then you wish for, trust me there is lots on here if you look for it.
I think the record hatchery on the Vedder is 22 or 23lbs but i may be wrong. Im sure there has been bigger ones but probably not recorded
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Here is a basic idea for you to think about.
Baits for Steelhead, Roe Chunks,Roe bags,Prawns,Sand Shrimp,jensen egg with a fluff of wool
Artificials for Steelhead Gooeybobs,Colorados,4 and 6 inch rubber worms usually pink coloured other colours work to,Jigs tipped with prawns
Slow walking speed water will hold fish, Tailouts etc, look for structure, stumps and log jams, large boulder for fish to hide around in.
Fish seams where slow water meets faster water fish along that edge. Dont spend allot of time fishing runs, fish them fast and keep covering water.
Another thing i like to do is.. Look at what other people are using and use something different. I came in behind a guy using prawns i fished chunk roe (Natural Coho Roe) and pulled out a fish. Doesnt happen all the time. but being aware of what others are using will highten your chances
Another thing is, if someone is working a run DONT walk below them, its a great way to get a guy annoyed. If you notice the guy isnt moving at all , ask politly if its ok if you can fish below him most of the time they wont mind.
Hardest part of steelhead fishing is trying to find them... they will usually take what you have offer them.
Steelhead Conservation Tag is NEEDED if you want to fish for steelhead, once you bonk your fish your done for the day
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Awesome..thnx guys...keep the tips and convo going...its great theres a place to where I can actually talk with ppl instead of like the fishing store where they just try to sell ya stuff and such, plus with so many ppl on here get lots of input and contacts and friends..thats cool...Well im hoping to hook a few this yr and smoke them..and what a good looking fish to.
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just be persistant.. and pound away at the runs. you will get a steelhead just do alot of research before they actually get here and learn what you can so your prepared for the time !!
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when does steelhead fishing start and stop ???
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also you can feel free to ask if anyone is willing to take you out once or twice and show you how to read water and stuff. hardest part of steelheading is learning where the fish will be from one run to another. some guys are so good at this they will hook a fish in every run they hit pretty much and will get at least one fish everyday they head out.
It took me until my 3rd season for steelies until i got my first one landed, didnt even touch one the first year :'( once you figure out things steelies are fairily easy to get to bite.
Aqua makes great points about fishing through a run quickly and not fence posting in one spot however you can go back to the top of the run and work it through with another presentation which is a great way to find fish also.
big tip i can give you is to not just walk past any water when your learning, fish EVERYTHING even if you think it wont hold fish. you might get shocked by where they will sit in certain runs. I got one fish (16lbs) in a tiny little slot that was maybe 2 feet deep and the water was super clear :o
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Here is a basic idea for you to think about.
Baits for Steelhead, Roe Chunks,Roe bags,Prawns,Sand Shrimp,jensen egg with a fluff of wool
Artificials for Steelhead Gooeybobs,Colorados,4 and 6 inch rubber worms usually pink coloured other colours work to,Jigs tipped with prawns
Slow walking speed water will hold fish, Tailouts etc, look for structure, stumps and log jams, large boulder for fish to hide around in.
Fish seams where slow water meets faster water fish along that edge. Dont spend allot of time fishing runs, fish them fast and keep covering water.
Another thing i like to do is.. Look at what other people are using and use something different. I came in behind a guy using prawns i fished chunk roe (Natural Coho Roe) and pulled out a fish. Doesnt happen all the time. but being aware of what others are using will highten your chances
Another thing is, if someone is working a run DONT walk below them, its a great way to get a guy annoyed. If you notice the guy isnt moving at all , ask politly if its ok if you can fish below him most of the time they wont mind.
Hardest part of steelhead fishing is trying to find them... they will usually take what you have offer them.
Steelhead Conservation Tag is NEEDED if you want to fish for steelhead, once you bonk your fish your done for the day
Good Post Aquaholic...BUT Before anyone BONKS a steelie be damn sure your on water that allows it! :)
Thanks
Bluesteele
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Yea...I see some holes and go...i'll try this...cause you never know..and some times ill watch for a few and see how guys are fishing or a bit of technique watching...and see what they are doing different than what im doing..but i love it and even empty handed its still nice to get out and try and learn.But yea I read that steelhead are a bit tough to catch sometimes.
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And yea for sure great advice...and yes make sure you can bonk em.....all this talk and tips is great...and general bs is good to.Just getting bit excited about the steelhead comming up....
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when does steelhead fishing start and stop ???
I wasn't aware it ever stopped ???
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it doesn't
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Yea...but i thought i got busy later in year...for the steelhead
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Memorize the water if you see a steelhead hooked. Under similar water conditions, steelhead will be holding in the exact same spot.
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All right sounds good....I havent ever caught one yet....do they fight llike coho...i hear they hit harder and fight more...sounds good if thats true...cant wait till next weekend for more
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Be willing to walk the river and adjust your strategy based on the river condition. There is no one hot spot each day. At high water, focus on the side channels. Watch for bottle neck spots where fish will pile up below obstructions, particularly towards evening. Be patient and never give up. Steelhead can be a fish of a thousand casts althougth there are the lucky early birds who can get their fish at first light at the usual hot runs. I agree that there were some excellent posts on steelhead in the past. Search them out. Good luck to your steelheading journey.. :)
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Thnx dude...and its great to be chatting away with ppl who have done it for yrs and know some in/outs, and have different opinions on fisihng and steelehead.Its awesome,and im reading and learing from each post that put down, plus eading what I can on the internet as well.I figured that steelhead were a bit tricky to catch,and have some good roe,plus bright wool to try.
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I beached 6 steelhead today, and lost 3 more. took home a limit of 4 hatchery fish with the largest being 14 pounds and the small fish was 8 pounds. Pretty epic day and all without bait. BTW, it was on the Methow River in Washington State.
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Thats cool....wish my day was that good....all i got today was a chummy.But still better than nothing and still better that sitting around home..lol...
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Yea...but i thought i got busy later in year...for the steelhead
It does.
Winter steelhead season on lower mainland rivers starts in late december and lasts until the end of april and into may if you flyfish.
When I said that steelhead season never really ends is that there are rivers that will have fresh fish in them at all times of the year.
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;) and if God wanted us to talk more than listening, he would of given us 2 mouths, and one ear. Fortunately, we have two eyes. This was very good information and great patience and presentation. Nice to see some friendly info exchange.
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For sure,its great to see some friendly info exchange and others helping each other and making contacts and such..Ive never done any fly fishing.It looks like fun...and looks like you need some patience..lol.....so late dec..is when it gets going strong?..seems like the vedder is slowing down a lil bit now tho...
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when does steelhead fishing start and stop ???
ask my wife that question lol
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HA hahaha....mine is going....you going fishing again...yup..i am..its just alot of fun..and if you go with some friends even better...i guess its just me thinking the vedder is slowing down...havent caught much lately...only 2 chummy's on sunday..
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steelhead start showing up now in tiny numbers and getting increasingly more until the peek which if i remember right is around February. Of course im talking about the Vedder. My first day out is usually Boxing Day (not in the derby) and if im fishing gear i have gotten a fish every boxing day so far that i have fished (after my first 2 yrs of nothing of course)
I find i usually catch most of my fish from February until April because of the warmer water temps the fish are more willing to move larger distances to attack things. I also have found they fight better and better as the water warms up ;D
there has been some great advice and tips added in this thread but the best one is Get out there and fish, fish, fish and watch others that are having success. nothing better then on the water experience.
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Thats what I was saying a few posts back as well.I ppl watch(pro-say)..and see what they are doing diff then me..or what they might be using..and such..and just try to go out as much as I can.And I love being out on the river..its awesome..we have all this, so why not enjoy it and take care it while we can.
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is the canal a good spot to fish for steelhead because i know last season i didnt catch anything in the canal but i i did at the top of the river but i did see someone take one in the canal im just wondering if its harder to catch them there then lets say mid river or something.
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The canal is good for newly arrived fish. Fish it with the rising tide. Also when the water is super low in March/April and most steelies are trapped there. But it will be a zoo also. So I prefer to walk the river for some solitude and exploring some pristine waters instead of jamming up with every one. Kind of hate to see the way steelheading is done there, as it is more like coho fishing instead of the hunting game of steelheading. Just my humble 2 cents.
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I hear ya...it gets crazy on the river.And if the steelies are like the coho..i'll be bushing it to try some nice spots where no one is.
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check the first few pages of the Fish Porn 2009 Thread.
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Sweet will do thank you.....we still have some good coho in the vedder?...(as we wait for steelies).....and we have some chum to still which is good for a fight and a smile.lol...
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Need some opinions...Im thinking about getting a cp reel and rod....used...just not sure what type of rod to get...on kinda a budget here..and thinking of finding a avon surpeme or something kp...what type should I look for...all for salmon fisihng not for fly.
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Try an Okuma Aventa. ;)
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http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=21384.0
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10089.0
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8130.0
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=16789.0
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12374.0
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12512.0
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8377.0
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Awesome dude..thank you for the great links...got some good reading to do later on...grad a coffee and start reading..thnx..and nice to see ppl helping each other and useful advice and communication.
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Just cured up a batch of roe, this time for steelhead. Been playing around with new recipes trying to get the perfect roe. This is my best to date. The skein seems to be much tougher than Procured roe, while the eggs stay more supple. I like it. Its anise-scented instead of that terrible cure-in-a-can smell.
This after 5 minutes of being washed around the sink in warm water to test durability. Procure lost 50% of its eggs, this new recipe lost maybe 2 eggs off a 20 egg cluster and the skein stayed tough.
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Deadly work on those berries, Mr. J!
PS - I still have your camping chair. You gonna be in the big smoke at all over the next few weeks? We should catch up!
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STEELHEAD BABY! Good luck flossing one of those. Long days, lone water and rewarding fish. Cant wait.
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STEELHEAD BABY! Good luck flossing one of those. Long days, lone water and rewarding fish. Cant wait.
I LIKE 8)
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Nice job on the roe looks like it will do the job for sure.And oh yea..im still learning lots but I cant wait for the steelhead to get full blown.Im looking forward to it.
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Is fishfinder useful for steelhead searching on vedder river? I see on website it can search 180 meters deep but not sure how wide area it can cover?
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Is fishfinder useful for steelhead searching on vedder river? I see on website it can search 180 meters deep but not sure how wide area it can cover?
;D
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???
I never use a fishfinder before. Would you give some explanations why or why not
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http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/5/SportsRec/Fishing/FishFinders/PRDOVR~0793877P/Eagle%2BCUDA%2B168%2BFishfinder.jsp
This is a lower priced one. Is it doable we use this to search for steelhead when walking along the river bank?
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No. Plain and simple, will not work.
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http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/5/SportsRec/Fishing/FishFinders/PRDOVR~0793877P/Eagle%2BCUDA%2B168%2BFishfinder.jsp
This is a lower priced one. Is it doable we use this to search for steelhead when walking along the river bank?
is this serious or are you trolling ???
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Pair of goggles or scuba mask works better ;)
Really! ;D
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Pair of goggles or scuba mask works better ;)
Really! ;D
add dry suit
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My god, I can picture it now - some dude walking along the Vedder holding a long stick with a transducer attached to the end of it in one hand, and a fishfinder and his gear rod in the other! LOL
Tex
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Didnt someone actually make something like that... I think I saw it at Canadian Tire.
A much better way would be to get yourself a pendulum and walk up and down the river. When the pendulum suddenly starts swinging with a different arc, thar be the feesh. Its easy man.
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I prefer a stick, much like finding water :D
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is this serious or are you trolling ???
Maybe he means this one?
http://store.humminbird.com/products/296615/Rod_Mount
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Thats what he means, Iv seen them in the christmas catologe a couple times. I still dont understand how they work?
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it has a wireless transducer that you tie onto your line, cast it out then reel it in slowly and it wirelessly sends the signal to the screen mounted on your rod. Then you have a picture of the bottom and you can retie with your bait and fish. OR you can leave it floating for a real time pic. Don't know that it would be any good on a faster moving flow.....
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I had another awesome day on the Methow. Caught 6 more steelhead. That's 16 in 4 hours of fishing this year. Big fish today was 12 lbs. I got owned by one that easily pushed 20. Kept my hands shaking for 10 minutes afterwards.
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Haha that rod fish finder is halarious, i doubt it would work well in fast moving water though.
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I had another awesome day on the Methow. Caught 6 more steelhead. That's 16 in 4 hours of fishing this year. Big fish today was 12 lbs. I got owned by one that easily pushed 20. Kept my hands shaking for 10 minutes afterwards.
I thought we have a steelhead paradise here in BC. No??? ;D
I guess the Americans can afford $$$ for their steelhead stocking programs. Just print some more money. :D ;)
Can't wait for retirement so I can camp out down south for steelies. :D
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A fishfinder to your rod....really????...like would someone really use one......would they work...and wouldnt that kinda take away the fun sort of?...ha haha ..dont think i would use one....sounds interesting...
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it has a wireless transducer that you tie onto your line, cast it out then reel it in slowly and it wirelessly sends the signal to the screen mounted on your rod. Then you have a picture of the bottom and you can retie with your bait and fish. OR you can leave it floating for a real time pic. Don't know that it would be any good on a faster moving flow.....
Gosh, first we had flossing now we have this what is fishing coming to? ;D ;D ;D
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ahahahahaha.that would be something....maybe a yuppie would use it or something....
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Oh, and honey if I've left FWR open on the screen and you read this post - NO, I do NOT want one for Christmas! ;D
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Just wondering if any/many of you flyfish for Steelhead in the Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley waters. Are there better local rivers then others for Flyfishing? I got a taste of it in late September when I was on the Thompson River when I was fishing for trout with a #8 Doc Spratley and ended up catching 2 nice Steelhead in one day! I was totally suprised when I hooked the first one - didn't know they went after flies that small.
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Just wondering if any/many of you flyfish for Steelhead in the Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley waters. Are there better local rivers then others for Flyfishing? I got a taste of it in late September when I was on the Thompson River when I was fishing for trout with a #8 Doc Spratley and ended up catching 2 nice Steelhead in one day! I was totally suprised when I hooked the first one - didn't know they went after flies that small.
The Chehalis in the lower end is suppose to be good.
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Anything happining...i see some coho caught near yarrow?...anyone think the vedder is kinda done until steelhead is full blown?..might head out this weekend..good idea or not?...
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It is too early for steelhead but there are always the few early fish caught once in a while. Just don't count on it though. There will be better chance in another month or so and way better in Jan.
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Anything happining...i see some coho caught near yarrow?...anyone think the vedder is kinda done until steelhead is full blown?..might head out this weekend..good idea or not?...
You might have a shot at some late coho or chum. It's never a bad idea to give it a try. My first steely trip is usually 26th of Dec as it's become a tradition on the ved. The local flow I start first weekend in dec even though you might not see anything for weeks. My favorite time of year is coming. I can feel it but until then I'll have to chase some searun cutt's and bulls :'( ;D ;D anyone feel sorry for me ;D
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Well...ive never fished for steelhead before(since being kinda new to the sport)...but from what i hear and read they can be kinda tricky to catch and heard they hit and fight hard?..but iam looking forward to it...cant wait till they are full blown and in the waters.Got some new bare wadders and sage boots so ready to go..
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we got 2 yesterday, hehehe ::)
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young -one....summer -runs dont count. ;D
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Who's going to pull the first fish from the Vedder this year? I have a good feeling its gonna be me. ;D
Why not have a little derby for the first confirmed steelhead from the Vedder caught from a forum member?
Whos in?
Last year I believe a member caught one the first week of december.
Cant wait for the season to start, and the days to grow longer!
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who was the lucky forum member, was it you gord? tell us more.
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Well.....being my first yr fishing for steelhead, im hoping to land one or two.And trying or thinking about getting a new setup...centerpin and rod combo for around 200....but im getting excited for the season of steelhead...finally got some new wadders and boots so i can hike and tred around....
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used reel and rod that is(from last post)....................and over time on here would be great to fish with ppl here...get educated on steelhead fishing and meet some great ppl