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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: jon5hill on September 06, 2009, 10:51:09 PM
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Saturday morning I spent fishing the Capilano river with my good buddy Joe. We fished at the usual pools, looking for some fresh fish who might be willing to hit a blade or a fly. Not much luck so we explored the canyon and fished little holes here and there. We didn't catch anything but a few smolts and then split for lunch.
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After lunch we headed to the mouth of the Capilano for the days lowest tide. This was my first time being there and it was a very thought provoking experience. Joe and I were standing on the west side of the river, tossing Indiana blades, croc spoons, buzz bombs, the usual plethora of hardware at them to no avail. I observed some other people on the east side of the mouth fishing the channel. I kept looking over as this one particular man was behaving so erratically and weird that it was absolutely captivating. He was casting out with what looked to be a level wind reel and about a 10' rod. All I saw at first were large splashes where he was casting and the man stomping around with a vengeance to catch a fish. He would mightily hurl his "lure" into the water at any leaping coho and instantly retrieve it with swift and furious yanking motions followed by short spasms of furious reeling. Then I got a glimpse of his "lure". This fellow was using only a treble hook the size of a small ship anchor, with the intent of foul-hooking any fish that cared to meander his direction. He was demonstrating the technique to a small boy who seemed to be his son. A slightly older boy who also appeared to be the mans son was well on his way, hurling a hook into the channel and yanking with utmost intensity. This electrifying trio of fish-hunters were native, as they are the only people permitted to be fishing on that side of the river.
So there I am, standing on the bank along side fellow fisherman who are each trying to perfect their craft in their own way to provoke a fish to strike. And on the other side of the river, several groups of natives are ruthlessly yanking their rods.
I thought how symbolic that river is.. it was a very gloomy yet poetic moment for me.
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yep nothing new there, sure is a sad sight :-[
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same ol' same ol'. Heres a closer look at the "lure" of choice on the east side of the river.
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Fishing for sport vs. fishing for food.
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Fishing for sport vs. fishing for food.
Agreed....simple as that.
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I would agree with that except they hooked a 2 lb coho and tossed it back as it was too small.. Food is food.
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Is that a clipped chinook?
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Fishing for sport vs. fishing for food.
Not always the case. Numerous times this year I have been offered fish they have caught.
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same ol' same ol'. Heres a closer look at the "lure" of choice on the east side of the river.
I've seen "sports fishermen" use similar gear at Cable Pool at dusk.
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I've seen "sports fishermen" use similar gear at Cable Pool at dusk.
Phone it in. Or if you feel comfortable, confront them yourself.
The cap is one river where I feel 100% safe approaching anyone who is fishing unethically or breaking the regs.
The west van/van crowd seems to be alot less confrontational and aggressive. Most of the time they claim to be unaware they were doing anything wrong and quickly change their methods.
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Phone it in. Or if you feel comfortable, confront them yourself.
The cap is one river where I feel 100% safe approaching anyone who is fishing unethically or breaking the regs.
The west van/van crowd seems to be alot less confrontational and aggressive. Most of the time they claim to be unaware they were doing anything wrong and quickly change their methods.
besides the stabbings, ya :-\
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same ol' same ol'. Heres a closer look at the "lure" of choice on the east side of the river.
(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/72/caphooks.jpg)
West coast fly
tying instructions
9/0 Trebble hook
4-5 inches pencil lead
Wrap pencil lead around hook shank
Complete
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Sport fishermen should want the natives to be as efficient as possible at catching fish so they can fill their stocks.
The treble hook solution is effective but unfortunately it is not selective.
From that perspective the shopping cart weirs are more efficient and allow them to select only fish they want to keep, but of course sporties would be unhappy if no fish are allowed through.
Where we need enforcement is in natives selling fish.
I propose treating people caught illegally buying native fish be treated equivalent to a 'john'.
Their pictures should be put in the paper and they should be sent to salmon 'john' school where they can learn about salmon conservation and the impact of their actions.
The only way to stop the natives selling fish is to educate the public and take away the demand. We can only take away the supply when the last salmon has been killed.
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i was talking to a guy yesterday at the shop, he said that a bunch of fish pushed into the river up to the weirs yesterday but couldn't make it over which made it super easy for them to net them instead of snag em. so lets hope they get their quota fast and then stop the slay fest
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i was talking to a guy yesterday at the shop, he said that a bunch of fish pushed into the river up to the weirs yesterday but couldn't make it over which made it super easy for them to net them instead of snag em. so lets hope they get their quota fast and then stop the slay fest
What makes you think they're keeping track this time?
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quotas? ??? I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I highly doubt any of them carry around a paper and pencil and mark down how many they have and all that. It appears to me to be lawless abuse of the fishery with no regard for any regulations or "quotas".
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All I can say is its nice to see they have upgraded their gear from shopping carts (which they used to use to build a dam across the river) to hooks ???
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Capilano fall springs are due any time now.Expect to see the weirs go up in the next week or two.
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Not always the case. Numerous times this year I have been offered fish they have caught.
SUPPOSED to be food at least :(
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that hatchery there to basically ensure that there are fish for the natives in that river, since we happily dammed the thing into oblivion, thereby pretty much destroying any natural fish population in the river?
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thats true man. i dont think the hatchery would be government sponsered if the natives didn't use it
the weirs are up. i was watching them dip net and snag below the bridge pretty fun to watch. But "oh my god there snagging fish!" jeez. they could probably just send a drift net through and clean the run out at least there doing it a traditional way with the weir and dip nets rather than jet boats and drift nets. and who cares anyway there not hurting any wild stocks if it weren't for the native fishery the river would probably be more like the seymour with a small volunteer hatchery and no good returns at least we get to fish the left overs.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that hatchery there to basically ensure that there are fish for the natives in that river, since we happily dammed the thing into oblivion, thereby pretty much destroying any natural fish population in the river?
This is absolutely true! However the hatchery needs to be held accountable and bump up the numbers for returns. It's no where near what it should be!
Hotrod
arrwp
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The fishery that occurs on the lower part of the river is unfortunately the best reason to close the hatchery, or better yet hand it over to the Squamish First Nations and they could take care of all operations - sell surplus fish to operate the Hatchery - "Sea Ranching" .
The fish that is in his hand is a trout of some sort = Rainbow or Cutthroat, and I am leaning towards Cutthroat
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they need to produce more fish, and a strain that isn't so lock jawed, some days those fish are a joke. High water, fresh fish, perfect bait, or presentation and u get the skunk. Lets hope they open up the dam so the nookies can show themselves in the river. The canyon has some DEEP holes but the reason for lack of fish is that they can get through that first km of no water from the marine drive bridge to the highway bridge.