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Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: jon5hill on August 23, 2009, 10:33:18 PM

Title: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: jon5hill on August 23, 2009, 10:33:18 PM
I purchased $80.00 shooting head fast sinking line yesterday. I was double hauling a large cast with my 8 weight omni and the line snapped nearly 2/3rd of the way down on my shooting cast. Did I do something wrong? Are you not supposed to cast this type of line? I was very frustrated as I spent a lot of money on it and wasted the best fishing time in the evening trying to fish. The remaining part of the line did not sink very well and I could not get to the depth where the coho were holding, not to mention I was into my backing while stripping the line back and it seemed rather silly.

If you aren't supposed to cast this line with large back/forward casts, then I am a bonehead for not knowing and should just go buy some more and be careful. If it's fair game to cast this stuff just like intermediate or floating line, then I think the line may have had a weakness in it and I am due for a refund/new line.

If I have misused the line, it would be cool if someone could tell me so I don't go blow another 80 dollars and snap it again.
Title: Re: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: Geff_t on August 24, 2009, 09:07:46 AM
sounds to me you had a weak spot in the line. Possible an area that had a nick or kink in it. I would go back to the shop you bought it from.
Title: Re: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: jimmywits on August 24, 2009, 02:22:12 PM
I purchased $80.00 shooting head fast sinking line yesterday. I was double hauling a large cast with my 8 weight omni and the line snapped nearly 2/3rd of the way down on my shooting cast. Did I do something wrong? Are you not supposed to cast this type of line? I was very frustrated as I spent a lot of money on it and wasted the best fishing time in the evening trying to fish. The remaining part of the line did not sink very well and I could not get to the depth where the coho were holding, not to mention I was into my backing while stripping the line back and it seemed rather silly.

If you aren't supposed to cast this line with large back/forward casts, then I am a bonehead for not knowing and should just go buy some more and be careful. If it's fair game to cast this stuff just like intermediate or floating line, then I think the line may have had a weakness in it and I am due for a refund/new line.

If I have misused the line, it would be cool if someone could tell me so I don't go blow another 80 dollars and snap it again.
I don't believe you did any thing wrong at all, page 16 in ''The Gilly'' Defines shooting heads as being; quote: ''exclusively for long distance casting...'' Take it back!
Title: Re: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: marmot on August 24, 2009, 02:53:56 PM
The whole purpose of a shooting head is to improve the "castability" of a line.  I'd be surprised if the shop you bought at did not replace the line being that you purchased it yesterday.

I'm sure this is old news to you but if you're using it at a beach (I assume this is the case being that you were casting for coho) without a basket, a sinking line will get cut up in short order on barnacles and such, especially if it gets underfoot...which happens very easily.  Inspecting the line will tell pretty quickly whether it was from external damage or a flaw in the line.  Good luck with it....

I know guys that use floating line only, and if they need to get down they simply add some putty or use weighted flies.  For the beach I think this is a better idea than a fast sink...more versatile and keeps your line off the sharp stuff.  Scientific Anglers makes an awesome saltwater floater, lots of guys use it and love it.
Title: Re: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: jon5hill on August 24, 2009, 03:09:48 PM
I was fishing on the top of a canyon wall in cable pool, so there was no barnacles or anything to nick or damage the line. I was roll casting for the most part, never snagged once. I decided to start casting sideways and got this huge cast going, probably like 30 feet of line and a forward cast after hauling my backcast resulted in a breakage near just above the reel.
Title: Re: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: marmot on August 24, 2009, 04:29:51 PM
yeah then that's ridiculous.....no line should break like that.
Title: Re: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: RalphH on August 25, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
.

If you aren't supposed to cast this line with large back/forward casts, .

no. The idea is to false cast once or twice to get the head a foot or so out of the guides double haul and throw the line. It sounds like you had quite a bit of the running line out of the top guide and false cast it continuously and may have stressed it with excess friction. It still shouldn't break but that isn't how it's intended to be used.
Title: Re: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: jon5hill on August 25, 2009, 11:05:21 PM
I took it back to Sea-run today and Kelly gave me a new spool for nothing. Great folks in there!

Thanks all for your input
Title: Re: Casting Sinking Line (shooting head)
Post by: bigsnag on August 27, 2009, 10:20:11 PM
I shop at Sea Run alot. They provide awesome service you can depend on as you just found out.