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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: RA40 on June 11, 2009, 04:40:37 AM

Title: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: RA40 on June 11, 2009, 04:40:37 AM
Category(s):
RECREATIONAL - Salmon

Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0407-Salmon: Fraser Chinook Management Actions - Area 29 and the waters of the Fraser River in Region 2 - Recreational Management Actions

Further to FN0386, the best estimate of the Chinook return to the Fraser River
based on the Albion test fishery is 61,000 spring and summer Fraser Chinook
through June 8, 2009. 

Based on this information, Subareas 29-11 to 29-17 (the tidal waters of the
Fraser River) will open to the retention of Chinook salmon at 00:01 hrs on June
16 and until 23:59 hrs Monday August 31.  The daily limit is four (4) Chinook
salmon, hatchery or wild, with only one being greater than 50 cm.

The non-tidal waters of the Fraser River in Region 2 will open to the retention
of Chinook salmon at daylight on June 16 and until 23:59 hrs Monday August 31. 
The daily limit is four (4) Chinook salmon, hatchery or wild, with only one
being greater than 50 cm.

Please note that when fishing for salmon in the tidal portion of the Fraser
River only one line per angler is permitted and only a single barbless hook.  A
single barbless hook is a barbless hook with only one point.  A treble hook is
not considered to be a single hook.  Please refer to the 2009-2011 British
Columbia Tidal Waters Sport Fishing Guide, page 19 or our website:

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/SFG-GPS-eng.htm for more information.


Notes:

Barbless hooks are required when fishing for salmon in tidal and non-tidal
waters of British Columbia.  This includes all species of fish in the Fraser
River.

Anglers are requested to release any hatchery marked sockeye.  These fish are
hatchery raised sockeye and part of a recovery program designed to increase the
numbers of Cultus Lake sockeye.

The term "hatchery marked" means a fish that has a healed scar in place of the
adipose fin.

Sport anglers are encouraged to participate in the voluntary Salmon Sport Head
Recovery program by labelling and submitting heads from adipose fin-clipped
chinook and coho salmon.  Recovery of coded-wire tags provides critical
information for coast-wide stock assessment.  Contact the Salmon Sport Head
Recovery Program at (866) 483-9994 for further information.

Rockfish Conservation Areas that are currently in effect are closed to all fin
fishing.  Descriptions of these closures, and other recreational fishing
information, can be found on the internet at:

www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish

Did you witness suspicious fishing activity or a violation?  If so, please call
the Fisheries and Ocean Canada 24-hour toll free Observe, Record, Report line
at (800) 465-4336.

For the 24 hour recorded opening and closure line, call toll free at (866) 431-
FISH.

Variation Order No. 2009-234 and 2009-235 dated June 9, 2009.


FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Contact the local DFO office in your area for further information.

Fisheries and Oceans Canada Operations Center - FN0407
Sent June 10, 2009 at 14:46
Visit us on the Web at http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca

Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: Rodney on June 11, 2009, 12:48:44 PM
Thanks Vic for putting the notice up. For those who plan to target chinook salmon when retention is opened on the 16th, please take a look at the following information:

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/090611-1.html
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: coho killer on June 16, 2009, 05:29:37 PM
 Is there any bars around chilliwack that arent under water? I dont have a boat so all info appreciated
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: BNF861 on June 16, 2009, 06:03:48 PM
On the weekend, i didn't really see any bars that aren't under water that are accessible without a boat. I didn't look at the entire area though.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: Sir Snag-A-Lot on June 17, 2009, 11:35:01 AM
Is it not still too early with a boat?  It seems to be running pretty high and silty for bar fishing success.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: BigFisher on June 17, 2009, 03:39:38 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/BigFisher/fraser.jpg)
This is from yesterday, I could not see any exposed bars from any of the lookout locations.
Water to the bush
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: rides bike to work on June 17, 2009, 09:20:52 PM
The guides are anchoring on the shallows where the bars usually are and they are doing well from what I've heard.there were a few fish caught at scale bar yesterday as well but beware of no parking areas there were a lot tickets handed out yesterday .Im going out on a freinds boat saturday
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: TheChumWhisperer on June 18, 2009, 06:17:51 PM
Lots of boats on the river today, and it looked extremely high and dirty.  looks like its gonna be quite a while until the rest of us without boats are able to access the bars. 
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: Remdrake on June 18, 2009, 08:00:20 PM
Is Grassy bar just lined up with boats on a daily basis? I used to fight the crowds and bar fish there and do fairly well. I plan on going out Saturday but I imagine the bottom bouncers are there in force. Any fish being brought into Island 22? I also heard rumor that peg leg was dry earlier in the year, is that channel going to dry up for good or was that just a rumor? Thanks and be safe out there!
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: hue-nut on June 18, 2009, 10:09:10 PM
buddy of mine was out all day today b&bing around peg leg and grassy, no fish for him. he did not mention any other anglers out so it must not have been crowed. seems like not too many people are out yet, water is still pretty high.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: HOOK on June 18, 2009, 10:24:23 PM
yes pegleg was bone dry but it wont be that way until next March/April(i was there april5th) i would imagine. I would actually love to see it dry up then we can get to new waters back there LOL
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: rides bike to work on June 19, 2009, 01:15:57 PM
Are they still doing gravel extraction at peg?Is the bar accessable there?
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: Sir Snag-A-Lot on June 20, 2009, 10:09:24 AM
I don't understand.  Are you saying that Minto Channel is infilling?  There was no water at all flowing through Peg Leg? If this is true every bar downriver will be greatly affected as so much more energy will be flowing through a smaller area.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: HARLEY on June 20, 2009, 11:23:31 AM
I don't understand.  Are you saying that Minto Channel is infilling?  There was no water at all flowing through Peg Leg? If this is true every bar downriver will be greatly affected as so much more energy will be flowing through a smaller area.

Yes, peg leg was totally dry and there was a bridge built so that they could haul out gravel from the north west side. When they finished they took the bridge back down.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: odesseus on June 20, 2009, 04:52:04 PM
Sounds like everyone is bottom bounching right now; just left HUB sports
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: rides bike to work on June 20, 2009, 07:54:26 PM
grassy bar had 12 boats at it today,I saw 4 fish landed in 4 hours two fish caught by one boat I hooked into one  pulled anchor and the chase was on only to realize it was a small sturgeon got the heart going though.we took a drive by peg and the whole thing was completely flooded overit will be interesting to see if its changed at all after the water goes down.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: rides bike to work on June 20, 2009, 07:58:12 PM
There were a few boats bar fishing on the bar across and a little below island 22 today the water seems to have cleared a little at least its not chocolate milk any more.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: armytruck on June 21, 2009, 10:29:37 PM
Heading out  to the Fraser to do some barfing this weekend coming up on the Fraser . Any one know how Peg is doin for any land opportunities to fit my motorhome and launch the pleasure craft ? . I see the Rosedale area is quite small in square footage . Gill has some potential . I 'm just wondering about Peg Leg  8) . Any feedback would be much appreciated  :) .
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: chris gadsden on June 22, 2009, 06:49:52 AM
Heading out  to the Fraser to do some barfing this weekend coming up on the Fraser . Any one know how Peg is doin for any land opportunities to fit my motorhome and launch the pleasure craft ? . I see the Rosedale area is quite small in square footage . Gill has some potential . I 'm just wondering about Peg Leg  8) . Any feedback would be much appreciated  :) .
Nothing there, water to high right at the end of the access road now. Water is receding but it will be a while yet before one can cross.Also if there is a channel shift it you may need a boat to cross to the main bar, time will tell.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: BNF861 on June 22, 2009, 07:00:08 AM
About a week ago, at Peg, the area where you can cross in the summer was eight to ten feet deep if i remember corectly
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: armytruck on June 22, 2009, 08:19:37 AM
So , in a nutshell , you guys are telling me there is no room for camping or launch das boot  :D . Reason I ask , I have never been to the Peg so I wouldn't waste to much fuel going there if there are no opportunities . Thanks guy's  8) .
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: chris gadsden on June 22, 2009, 08:24:40 AM
So , in a nutshell , you guys are telling me there is no room for camping or launch das boot  :D . Reason I ask , I have never been to the Peg so I wouldn't waste to much fuel going there if there are no opportunities . Thanks guy's  8) .
You can lauch a boat but for security reasons I would go to Island 22
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: armytruck on June 22, 2009, 08:42:06 AM
I like Island 22 , however that would require pulling the boat out every evening . And then there is a 5 buck launch charge each day from what I remember there .  Pain in the patooty when your motorhome is all set up in the site . Thanks Chris  8) .
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: andychan on June 22, 2009, 09:19:22 AM
Anywhere you can barf ish?
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: Sir Snag-A-Lot on June 22, 2009, 09:51:41 AM
Is Grassy overrun by flossers, or can it be bar fished right now?
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: chris gadsden on June 22, 2009, 10:54:07 AM
Is Grassy overrun by flossers, or can it be bar fished right now?
River is high and dirty, tough to bar fish as the chinooks can not see your glow very well. Of course you always have a chance for a fish but best to saave your brownie points when the river clears.

Besides the bugs, will if not already bad. ::)
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: rides bike to work on June 22, 2009, 08:18:43 PM
Ther was no charge a island 22 this weekend im not shure how long that will last though.Is drift netting illegal,there was a boat drift netting along grassy bar within 10 feet of every ones boats it brought a little bit of tension to the day.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: lude98r on June 23, 2009, 10:54:39 PM
I went to grassy bar yesterday and the water is sure high. Unfortunately got skunked on only saw 1 fish landed in 5hours.
Hopefully better luck next time.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: BigFisher on June 23, 2009, 10:59:30 PM
How many guys out fishing? Are they all BB? Did you see anyone bar fishing?
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: lude98r on June 23, 2009, 11:02:02 PM
4 boats including me all BB not 1 bar fishing, except when my arms got tired from throwing those weights, then chucked out the bar rig and had lunch.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: iblly on June 24, 2009, 08:17:03 AM
   Just checked the gauge at Hope,  water quite high but steadily dropping.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & rep
Post by: spring_killa on June 27, 2009, 06:29:38 PM
I ve been hearing from a few sources that the Scale Bar has been extremely productive for the BBers, like unheard of springs being pulled out for this time of the year? Was anyone actually there the last few days that can attest to this claim?
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: pinkwool on June 27, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
you have to go there to see it
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: chris gadsden on June 28, 2009, 09:04:50 AM
6 inches when I looked today by Old Orchard Road but boy the bugs are getting bad with the receding waters, the hatch is on. ::) A lot of bars are still covered but hopefully it keeps dropping quickly now. We have found over the years 6 inches of visibility hard but not impossible to take biting fish.

Of course if the are swimming by in big numbers, like people on a crowded sidewalk the odd fish will get close enought to take a swipe at your glow. Best to use a 0 size of course. Also if you can locate an area where a clear big river meets the murky Fraser and visibly improves due to the mix that helps too. ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: mattyo on June 28, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
Thanks for the condition report Chris! Just wondering if anybody has had success doubling up spin n glos . I've never tried but one would think with a bead in between the two sng's it could work :o
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: Morty on June 28, 2009, 01:19:30 PM
Pegleg WAS bone dry back in Feb/March/April but has been totally flooded for more than a month now.  Minto Channeldid not dry up but was very low, and no flow through it at all.  If the freshet has repeated what it did last year, then the channel immediately at the end of McSween will likely be impassible until mid August.

You should be able to figure out what it's like out there by looking at the website with the water level charts.  Compare Mission and Hope for this year to the Mission and Hope readings for last year.   I.E. whatever the Mission or Hope levels were for early August last year is what they need to get down to before venturing out to Peg.  Mid August levels would be better.

FWIW
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: yoda on June 28, 2009, 05:22:34 PM
hey great shots fishforever, i'm getting an itchy trigger finger jusy looking!! won't be long now.
looks like the test sets at albion are picking up, nothing compared to other years though.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: hue-nut on June 28, 2009, 06:29:10 PM
I have fished Scale once this year and some other buddies have been there quite a bit since the opening and I would say that maybe 10 fish are out of there a day, maybe more. Does not seem too productive to me unless its picked up the last few days.
Title: Re: 2009 Fraser River summer chinook salmon fishery: Water condition, news & reports
Post by: chris gadsden on June 28, 2009, 07:09:00 PM
Thanks for the condition report Chris! Just wondering if anybody has had success doubling up spin n glos . I've never tried but one would think with a bead in between the two sng's it could work :o
I see no reason it would not work and have seen others us it. I just use a #0 silver, with a red top and mylar wings at this time of year, never bother loading up my tackle box with any others as I have had good success with them after they were started being made a few years ago. The green topped one works well too but I like the red top.

Nice to hear bar fishers taking some nice fish today and to get in on the action. The Leaf Craft being tunned tomorrow and will be launched shortly.

Let the bells toll. ;D ;D