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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: fish_on on August 06, 2008, 09:58:41 PM
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Any info as to when the white springs start triggering into the Vedder Chilliwack system?
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You will usually see white spring jacks first around mid September. After that, the big boys will follow and they will take almost anything.
The spring jacks will hit roe like no tomorrow!!!
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any info on the expected numbers for this years run ????
Ps> .. is it a pink year ?
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Ps> .. is it a pink year ?
No, pinks run on odd number years in the South Coast.
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I too would like to hear any estimates on the Fall run. It seems like this year's runs have been so unpredictable throughout the Northwest.
Also how long do the Sockeye & Reds remain in the river? I think I caught a Red last October but don't know for sure because I let it go. A guy that saw the picture said it was a "red".
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I have caught a sock in October before, but it a rotten tomato by then and easily identifyable.
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I don't remember having a bad year for white springs. Usually, you can find an abundance of them lurking around deep and faster water.
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Thanks all the replies.
RK
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I have caught white springs on the last week of august on the vedder, previous quote was right....they come in alot sooner than mid to end september.
My personal experience was depending on water conditions, you can find an abundance in the lower river usually by the 10-12th of september.
By end of September fish and fast water and deep pool and your almost guaranteed :) !!!
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Usually it is Jack's coming in early September then the larger white 3rd week of. Last year I landed a really nice 20lb Red Sept 28th so you never do know what your gonna catch.
Cheers, Rob
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A bit off the subject, but just a point of interest, is there any difference in eating quality between white springs caught in the Fraser (upper river stock), and white springs caught in the Vedder, assuming that both are early silver fish (so we are comparing apple to apple)? Has any one actually caught both types and can give a fair comparison?
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Any short run river ( IE Vedder, Harrison ) White chinook ,,, are called " Tuley whites, originated in the Columbia river lower streams. They are very acid smelling and tasting. Long river whites are every bit as good as the Reds but just don't look as nice. Upper Fraser whites and reds 600-700 mile fish are fine. Stay above the Harrison and most of the kings are fine.
If you do take a short river White nook. ,,,,make sure you just scrub the heck out of ANY trace of slime on these guys they will be also okay. I mean SCURB every malicule of slime and your fine. Most of us won't go to that much trouble . That ugly strong smell and taste is from the slime getting on the meat. Do it before you clean your fish...... SCRUB !!!!!
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better yet, skin them. I know it takes alot of time, but it really makes a huge difference. There is no other smell quite like white spring slime.
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There are no fish in the vedder until late september, probably Oct.
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even though its not the year for the pinks to return in the river do some still
return or is there absolutley none
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There ARE still some, but they are very, very few and far between. These last 2 off years I have managed to bring 3 pinks in, yes PINKS. 2 of them were humpies in one day and the other was a doe, all were released as soon as I realized what they were.
On another note though..... What is the earliestt you guys have caught springs (whites) and coho in the vedder?
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i got one white on fraser last week....
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my earliest on the vedder for coho was aug. 17th 2003, and my earliest white spring was sept 3rd 2005.
what's everyone elses?
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ok, back to the red / white spring question....
are the vast majority red? it seems you dont really see whites in the ocean in the summer / fall... its a bit confusing...
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That is because the White are a special strain of fish that are mostly from the harrison and implanted in the vedder. I would say that majority of fish in the harrison and Vedder are whites but not too sure of the rest of the fraser watershed or even the ocean, maybe someone else has the answer.
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That is because the White are a special strain of fish that are mostly from the harrison and implanted in the vedder. I would say that majority of fish in the harrison and Vedder are whites but not too sure of the rest of the fraser watershed or even the ocean, maybe someone else has the answer.
are there any places fishable on the harrison river without a boat; tried under a bridge there once and got stuck in the muck.
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Out in port renfrew, vancouver island where i fish, i have caught whites there in the summer on many ocassions. THey are usually the bigger ones that are the white and they put up a better fight then the reds most of the time.
I just got back this week from being out there and caught two whites. 27lb's and 25 lb's.
Definatly more reds then whites on the ocean... but they are still there!
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There are no fish in the vedder until late september, probably Oct.
LOL
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honestly, I have caught Coho in late August. But generally sept 1st is when I start fishing the vedder. However I live 1300 km away and am now stuck fishing the Kitimat, Skeena, Lakelse, Copper, Kalum you probably get the point.
From Sept 1st and on, get up early, fish with good roe at first light and if your in the right place, and dont let the theory that the fish are only in the lower river fool you. There are always fair numbers of Coho and tons of spring jacks and water conditions dont matter too much
I have very good days when the water was piss low.
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That is because the White are a special strain of fish that are mostly from the harrison and implanted in the vedder. I would say that majority of fish in the harrison and Vedder are whites but not too sure of the rest of the fraser watershed or even the ocean, maybe someone else has the answer.
are there any places fishable on the harrison river without a boat; tried under a bridge there once and got stuck in the muck.
Lots of spots without a boat if you are prepared to do alot of walking. Without giving away some very hard earned secrets that I learned from walking for hours on that river her is a quick tip. Park off the Hwy 7 bridge and do some walking up river on the banks.
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That is because the White are a special strain of fish that are mostly from the harrison and implanted in the vedder. I would say that majority of fish in the harrison and Vedder are whites but not too sure of the rest of the fraser watershed or even the ocean, maybe someone else has the answer.
are there any places fishable on the harrison river without a boat; tried under a bridge there once and got stuck in the muck.
Lots of spots without a boat if you are prepared to do alot of walking. Without giving away some very hard earned secrets that I learned from walking for hours on that river her is a quick tip. Park off the Hwy 7 bridge and do some walking up river on the banks.
Even this time of year Brian the water is atill too high. Those areas are fine come early winter until March. Other wise you will need a boat.
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Sorry... maybe a dumb question, but is it easier to fish for salmon in the Chilliwack River when the water is deep or when it gets lower? And does anyone know how well the roe you get at a gas station fair compared to the ones you cure yourself... I'm new at this.
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I prefer the ones I cured over those you find at the service stations.
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Sorry... maybe a dumb question, but is it easier to fish for salmon in the Chilliwack River when the water is deep or when it gets lower? And does anyone know how well the roe you get at a gas station fair compared to the ones you cure yourself... I'm new at this.
I prefer to do it my self but when I do have to buy some I only buy from my local tackle shop
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Anyone care to share a recipe for curing eggs. Do you prefer Springs, Coho or Chum?
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Chum roe is the best.
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try this link. Hope it works
http://www.smallstreamsalmonfishing.com/movies/eggcuring/eggcuring.html
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Anyone care to share a recipe for curing eggs. Do you prefer Springs, Coho or Chum?
Depends what species you wanna target ;)
Whites will eat anything but i find procure easy and successful
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Thanks for the help... maybe I'll stay away from the gas stations and head down to the tackle shop. I've never fished with roe before and want to try it this year. I'm sure the boys and girls at the shop will help me out with that.
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A related question:
Do most people use just plain roe or do them up in the mesh bags?
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"match the hatch"
Scott Haugen's book on curing roe is the bible. If you are serious about curing roe, go buy a copy.
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Is there an easy way to tell the difference between a male and a female in the different salmon species? If you want to collect the roe, and you can only keep one chum, can you tell if it has eggs? ???
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Sexual dimorphism in pacific salmon once they enter their natal streams is easy to identify. Beside the head length and jaw extension that has already been mentioned, males also have a tendency to develop a hooked jaw and teeth. Hooked jaws are common in male coho salmon. Male chum salmon also have a slight hooked nose and large teeth. Male salmon also have a thicker back, which is very apparently in male pink salmon.
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/071015_1.jpg)
Male coho salmon
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/070925_02.jpg)
Female coho salmon
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/070925_04.jpg)
Male chinook salmon (jack)
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/071017_09.jpg)
Male chum salmon
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Every Day..... 23/08/2008 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/BigFisher/dansfish.jpg) ved
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You forgot to mention the coho that you hooked :-X Plues the 2 I had chase my spoon up to the edge without biting ::) >:(
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They are definitely on their way and this rain will help them even more ;)
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;) One white and one wild Ho-Ho for me too .