Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hello on July 29, 2008, 09:15:30 PM
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Fishing with bait really seems to take the sport out of fishing for me. Just wondering if their are others who think that by creating something that attracts the fish to bite you have really out smarted it, but if you bait the hook you really havent tricked the fish in anyway. ( FEEDING ???? )
Always find it interesting how some shortfloating roe fishermen seem to think that theirs is the almighty method.
Anyways tie up a fly and go catch a fish there may be some magic there for you. ;D
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Wow!!! what brought this on?
We all have our preferred method of catching a fish. Sometimes roe works well and sometimes yarn works better.
Be it roe, yarn, blade or fly- we are just enticing the fish to bite.
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Isn't throwing anything into the water other than a spear considered bait to a fish. ???
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Isn't throwing anything into the water other than a spear considered bait to a fish. ???
Definition of bait can be found on page 9.
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/docs/2008/fish-synopsis_2008-09_general.pdf
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It's a personal choice whether to use bait or flies.
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Sorry, sarcasm squeaked out.
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Every method has it's time and place.
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as a new fisherman, I am amazed at the self righteousness out there when it comes to preferred methods of fishing, I thought that the only people that we were supposed to look down on are the "flossers", but now it seems that even the roe fishermen are no longer "ethical"?. Personally I think that the most important part of fishing is catching fish, that's what keeps me going and excited to wake up early. Regardless of method (as long as its legal), I would not be out there fishing if I never caught anything. My little brother and I went to the Scale Bar a few times this week and caught our limit in zero visibility water. It was our first time ever using bouncing betties and you know what we had a blast because we caught fish!! We were not concerned that the fish were not biting our offering, they could not even see our offering! We had fun and are very excited to continue learning and growing as fishermen. In five years we will probably not be fishing shoulder to shoulder, bottom bouncing, because we will know how to catch fish in more challenging ways. That is the natural progression of most sports, the better you get the more you want to be challenged. I just find it interesting how "expert" fishermen rip apart the methods of other fishermen because they have progressed to a place that they percieve to be better and more pure than others. I know that this can be a very touchy subject on this forum and I don't want to piss anyone off but that's my two cents.
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Way to go !!!! Kick "Hello" in the you know where and tell him- " NO SOUP FOR YOU TONIGHT"......
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I posted this as a reality check for some members on this board. I agree with hues post one hundred percent. Assumtions can be misleading. If i had never fished with bait how would I know that it was not as sporting for " ME " . I am not a fly fishermen strictly i love gear as well. ;)
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Some pot stirring going on here of course..... but there is some truth behind it too. Some look down on BBers, some look down on bobber and worm fisherman, and yes, some look down on roe fishermen.
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I see what you're saying "Hello", no hard feelings. I've been reading this forum for the last year or so (got into fishing last year) and I just finally wanted to chime in and let my perspective be known.
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Fishing with bait really seems to take the sport out of fishing for me. Just wondering if their are others who think that by creating something that attracts the fish to bite you have really out smarted it, but if you bait the hook you really havent tricked the fish in anyway. ( FEEDING ???? )
Always find it interesting how some shortfloating roe fishermen seem to think that theirs is the almighty method.
Anyways tie up a fly and go catch a fish there may be some magic there for you. ;D
So then you think fly fishing is the almighty method i guess ::)
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TH ;)
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I've fished bait, fly, gear, spear....it's all fishing and each method offers up it's own set of challenges. I prefer fly fishing because I have more success and I love to tie my own flies. Still some fish won't hit them. For those, I'd consider bait but would rather fish gear. Bobbers are for kids :)
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I simply do not believe in any almighty method. I believe we should all be allowed to follow our own morals, as long as they are within the rules, without having people look down on us. There are those who look at fishing as a whole as torture cause we pierce animals with sharp metal objects. Where does the finger pointing start and end ???? I said that biat fishing was not as sporting for me as creating something and catching fish was ( lures included ) I do however fish bait sometimes and do not have anything against those who do. What i am against is the behaviour of some fishermen who think that if they have made certain decisions that others should do the same. Thats not how things work. Make the right choices for yourself and allow others to do the same.
Oh and in case some of you havent figured it out yet this is a flossing thread. Just from a different angle!! ;D ;D
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Do we all not go fishing to catch fish? As long as our methods are within the rules we should enjoy our day on the river.
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i think part of the issue is when bait / gear guys are fishing in the same pool / drift as fly guys. fly guys think gear guys are spooking all the fish and ruining the fly guys chances, am i right?
everyone should read the book "Th River Why?" its a great read, and some funny debates about bait vs fly fishing from a married couple...
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There deffinately is a time and a place for all techniques. Bait, gear , fly, all have advantages and disadvantages. As sportfishermen grow they develop their skills and quite often prefer to employ more challenging techniques. Personally I was tiring of catching fish with bait and gear. It was becoming to easy. I was tired of spending days curing roe, pumping shrimp at midnight in February, then going out and catching fish in the exact same spot, with the exact same method. I started experimenting with different techniques. Strictly jigs ( back when people thought jigs were for sun fish ), then spoons exclusively, spinners etc. It was a great way to devlop as a fisherman and better understand water hydraulics and fish behavior. The move to strictly fly fish was a natural progression. It was the only thing left to do. The art of floating a piece of roe or a jig helped with my nymphing techniques. Swinging a spoon is so very similar to swinging flies. ( I've told a few elitist fly fishermen this and they cringe ) Evolving as an angler and moving onto different fisheries and techniques also opens the door for others to enjoy the sport. Standing on the same rock day in and day out does no good for your skills or the fishery. It just congests the river even more. Move on and try different things. The cost of fishing the Vedder 10 times ( food, gas, gear, etc...) adds up. Stay home for a while, pocket your cash and go on a trip and try something new. Let someone else have that rock to hone their skills until they begin to evolve as well.
But the most important thing to remember through the natural progression of becoming a well rounded angler is not forgetting how you got there. Being an elitist tells me one thing. You are not a well rounded angler. There is nothing wrong with bait, gear, or flies. There is something wrong with only fishing one way and never devoping your skills and evolving into a better, more complete angler.
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Rick is a troll!!! Rick is a troll..Rick is a troll...he uses bait on his flies!!! I've seen him, he calls them leeches but it's roe..I know it!!!!
I hate Roe...mainly because it messes up my reel and makes my hands dry out and the skin peel off... :P I love making it though...the recipes that you come up with are like an alchemists dream...it's pretty cool to see the fish turn on to one certain batch and watch Merc get pissed off causes his doesn't...
I'm not an elitist..i'm just easily bored...practice, practice, practice...oops..fish on!!!
Rick likes to troll his new puppy for dates!!!!
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"Rick likes to troll his new puppy for dates!!!! "
Those are the lowest kind of trolls. :(