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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: adriaticum on July 21, 2008, 10:33:06 AM
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Went out to Chilliwack this weekend and saw fish jumping everywhere. Too bad I didn't have a frying pan, just holding it over the river would have caught me some. I used roe to try and catch a spring but no go. For some reason I swithed to spinners and hooked a sockeye believe it or not. After 10 seconds he jumped and spit the hook..
I've been reading on how to catch a sockeye and it seems to me flossing is the only way and every site I read recommends that technique as the best way to catch them.
Now my question is there any other method to catch sockeye other than flossing?
Fly, spoon, spinner, roe, yarn, jumping from helicopters, whatever, anything??
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As long as there is good visibility, sockeye will take just about everything.
They are aggressive fish.
They will also take the fly.
Flossing is not a sportfishing method, it is a harvesting method, and it can be used for any species.
Catching any fish using the flossing method requires no skill - only a determined number of fish per cubic metre of water.
It's a pity that so many people choose to floss on small systems such as the Vedder/Chilliwack, as it ruins the true fishing experience for everybody around.
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i was up there last week and everyone were catching sockeye. i only saw one spring caught. the river is very beautiful now but there just arent many springs in the water and way too many sockeye.
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i was up there last week and everyone were catching sockeye. i only saw one spring caught. the river is very beautiful now but there just arent many springs in the water and way too many sockeye.
Too many sockeye? Their are never too many sockeye.
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I am heading up there tomorrow. Seems like i have to use heavier gear this time, just in case if i get a sockeye hooked i could land and release it in a quicker fashion.
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i was up there last week and everyone were catching sockeye. i only saw one spring caught. the river is very beautiful now but there just arent many springs in the water and way too many sockeye.
Too many sockeye? Their are never too many sockeye.
So hard to please the sporties eh?.....no..tooo many fish!!...oh crap..where are the fishies?
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i was up there last week and everyone were catching sockeye. i only saw one spring caught. the river is very beautiful now but there just arent many springs in the water and way too many sockeye.
Shh not too loud. The next thing you know is that the First Nations will use this as proof that the sockeye runs are healthy and want another commercial opening. ;)
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They should be open to sport fishing. Maybe flyflossing only. :) One per year, just so we don't have to buy them from the FNs. ::)
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I laugh at all the long liners fishing the vedder.....they just dont understand! If they "short floated"...they would be into twice as many fish and save themselves 1000$ in gear! For example today I was fishing across from 3 or 4 "long liners"...My first cast short floating a gob of roe..bam spring on...killed..end of day ;D
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Yes I know what you mean.... was out for a couple hours and hooked a sockeye short floating with pink wool. There were people crowding around me in the bext 10 mins, all long lining with bouncing betties. They really pissed me off, shoulder to shoulder and not one hooked a fish. I was eventually ignoring all the sockeye hits I was getting, they are quite like trout hits just so every one knows, they are a bunch of little taps and sometimes a pull.
Back on topic, everyone says sockeye don't bite, its a joke, and an excuse for people to keep bottom bouncing alive and well. I have had these fish take blue flies off the top of the water, they love pro cured prawns and roe, and they will take almost every colour of wool ou can think of. Colours they like especially this year include pink and purple, and white sometimes. They will hit spoons too. Right now they seem to be sitting close to the top, hence why so many are jumping. With my polarized glasses, most of them I see are in the mid section of the water, so if you want some fun, put on some pink wool and shrimp sent, set float at 2 feet and cast away ;)
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Yep they bite all right. I've gotten them on crocs in the Harrison.
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Yes, they bite.. I hook two of them with red wool, while short floating.. last Sunday.. I lost one chrome red spring.. just from the shore :(
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Every Day
Can you explain to me what short floating is and what long lining is? Is it as simple as short leaders vs long leaders?? ???
Thanks.
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Every Day
Can you explain to me what short floating is and what long lining is? Is it as simple as short leaders vs long leaders?? ???
Thanks.
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=7906.msg73635#msg73635
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/2003/1003_01.html
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Every Day
Can you explain to me what short floating is and what long lining is? Is it as simple as short leaders vs long leaders?? ???
Thanks.
I really don't want to go there but here is a short quick version......
Short floating : Float set off the bottom with a short leader (12-18 ") in the strike zone. When Steelhead fishing I go 3 foot leader so that the fish dont get spooked by the weight in clear water (I only do this when fishing spoons and in crystal water conditions only).
Long lining : Its bottom bouncing (flossing) just a fly-fishermans wording for it so I doeant spark debate 8) Pretty much as simple as weight hitting bottom followed by a massive leader, and they think they can outsmart you by using a float, floats shouldn't lay sideways !!!!!!!! ::)
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dont mix bottom bouncing and long lining up. there 2 completely different things.. proper bottom bouncing with short leaders is true drift fishing.
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dont mix bottom bouncing and long lining up. there 2 completely different things.. proper bottom bouncing with short leaders is true drift fishing.
well that's a new one on me..."proper bottom bouncing"?
that's an oxymoron; like legal poaching.
s'plain please.
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dont mix bottom bouncing and long lining up. there 2 completely different things.. proper bottom bouncing with short leaders is true drift fishing.
well that's a new one on me..."proper bottom bouncing"?
that's an oxymoron; like legal poaching.
s'plain please.
Drift Fishing is what people in BC call Bottom Bouncing. Go anywhere else in the US where they have steelhead and you will find this to be the best technique.
You have a led at the end of the line with a snap swivel and a 2-3 foot leader, depending on water clarity.
You have to measure your led and have enough so that when you cast upstream the rig doesn't sink, it just bounces of the bottom after the leader and the bait.
So hook & bait are always moving faster than the led and fish sees it first.
This is ok when you are fishing for steelhead because the chances of foul hooking one are slim to none. There are very few fish in the river.
The problem is when people use this technique on sockeye, coho or any other massive groups of fish.
Your chances of faul hooking one are great.
Imagine if you had 3, 5 pound sockeye in your bath tub. You bet you can snag one up.
And we all know that willfully foul hooking a fish is illegal in BC.