Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: coryandtrevor on October 30, 2007, 03:46:46 PM
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If so, hows the fight ? Do they fight like up in the interior ?
My guess is they will soon be very hungry and succumb to the Powerbaiters or the otters and be gone in no time.
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I fished there last Saturday from 2 to 5pm and there is not too much action ???. Saw the guy on the boat caught a big one on the fly. He did have a big fight on his fly rod. However, people on the bank got shunked.
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I haven't caught anything big in LaFarge this year but 2 years ago i landed a nice 4 pounder (weighed it on a scale) off shore on a bobber and worm.
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Zach and I tried it a while after it was first stocked, it was a struggle as fish we clinging to the bottom, could somone tell me if this is still happening or when this stops??
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Nice !
Just looking to get some quality local action. I think that this initiative to place these Blackwater adults in our local lakes is a step in the right direction regarding encouragement to angling around the LM lakes.
Why they don't raise some the triploids to fair sizes ( 2 - 6lbs ) in the hatchery is a mystery. It would encourage local angling and raise the stakes a bit as catching 200grm catchables just isn't fun anymore.
England and the British Isles raise nice Rainbows to all kinds of sizes up to 10lbs before releasing into their lakes so why cant we ?
Thanks guys,
CandT 8)
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it probably takes too much time and money to do so..
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Yeah, moneys behind everything but I would rather have 40 fatties in a lake than 1000 pinners.
Wouldn't you ?
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Speaking of otters, was fishing at Sasamat a couple of weeks ago, and saw a whole pack of the little water weasels, guess they move around eh?
Coincidently, there were no fish around that day...
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Nice !
Just looking to get some quality local action. I think that this initiative to place these Blackwater adults in our local lakes is a step in the right direction regarding encouragement to angling around the LM lakes.
Why they don't raise some the triploids to fair sizes ( 2 - 6lbs ) in the hatchery is a mystery. It would encourage local angling and raise the stakes a bit as catching 200grm catchables just isn't fun anymore.
England and the British Isles raise nice Rainbows to all kinds of sizes up to 10lbs before releasing into their lakes so why cant we ?
Thanks guys,
CandT 8)
The only reason those fish are in Lafarge is because they were netted out of Frisken Lake ( by Roche) which has a predominate winterkill. Provincial Fisheries figure why let them die when we can net them and dump them into another lake.
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Ya, I know. I read the posting. I think its quite a bonus to get these here in a local and I know they cant put them in a lake where they might escape down a creek or outfolw so Lafarge, Trout(Vancouver) and Mill get em exclusively for the most part. I really appreciate them trying something like this as like the article says they will most likely perish in the winter.
My other point is why not raise our usual catchables to much larger sizes and maybe put in less of them making the fishing a little more interesting.
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I think it all barrels down to $ and space. If you've owned an aquarium before you know you can only have a certain number of fish in a given space so they remain healthy. The larger they are, the fewer you can have,the more food they need, and it gets tougher the larger they get to keep them healthy compared to having tons of smaller ones. I think the same principles would apply to hatcheries.
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Think a chironomid 1ft off the bottom would produce some of those larger fish in Lafarge?
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As mastercaster has brought up, it depends on money, space and time. Catchables are the most expensive out of all the stocks raised by hatcheries around this province. Its goal is to sustain an introductory fishery, which brings in new anglers, who will eventually graduate and move onto higher quality fisheries that cost less to maintain (yearling stockings, etc). It does not make sense to spend more money and raise the fish for another year, or spend same amount of money and raise less fish that are bigger, to cater the same level of harvest rate.
What would be more welcoming is to designate a few lakes close to Vancouver as catch and release lakes, and put in larger fish so there isn't a net loss in stocks and quality of fishing remains high. This type of management would cater both introductory anglers who wish to take a few fish home in put and take lakes, as well as those who wish to only catch and release but do not wish to drive 4 hours to the nearest quality lakes. One scenario would be keeping put and take designation for Sasamat Lake, while making Buntzen Lake catch and release only. The two lakes are next two each other, so those who travel to the area can choose which fishery they wish to participate in.
Has anyone been interviewed by the fishery surveyor at Lafarge Lake this month?
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I was when I went there earlier this month.
She asked how many times a week I fish, length and number of fish etc., and why I fish :-X
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UK lakes and ponds that are stocked on a regular basis with these large (up to 10 lbs) trout are always pay to play. Some of the lakes that I have fished over there will cost upwards to about £30 for a days fishing (8 hrs) which is $60. If you head out for a couple of days, it certainly adds up and these fees help to fund the stocking and rearing of these larger fish. I think we are lucky to pay about $35 a year for the quality fishing that we have in this province.
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What would be more welcoming is to designate a few lakes close to Vancouver as catch and release lakes, and put in larger fish so there isn't a net loss in stocks and quality of fishing remains high. This type of management would cater both introductory anglers who wish to take a few fish home in put and take lakes, as well as those who wish to only catch and release but do not wish to drive 4 hours to the nearest quality lakes. One scenario would be keeping put and take designation for Sasamat Lake, while making Buntzen Lake catch and release only. The two lakes are next two each other, so those who travel to the area can choose which fishery they wish to participate in.
If Fisheries were to dump bigger fish into a lake like Buntzen and make it a catch and release lake these fish likely wouldn't size up very fast if at all because from what I've been told these coastal lakes aren't very fertile at all compared to their interior cousins. Some lakes up there are so abundant with aquatic life that fish have been known to grow a close to a pound a month. ie. Kidd Lake
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"What would be more welcoming is to designate a few lakes close to Vancouver as catch and release lakes, and put in larger fish so there isn't a net loss in stocks and quality of fishing remains high. This type of management would cater both introductory anglers who wish to take a few fish home in put and take lakes, as well as those who wish to only catch and release but do not wish to drive 4 hours to the nearest quality lakes. One scenario would be keeping put and take designation for Sasamat Lake, while making Buntzen Lake catch and release only. The two lakes are next two each other, so those who travel to the area can choose which fishery they wish to participate in."
I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.
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Not only catch and release lakes but would also be nice to see them go totall catch and release on a couple rivers to see what they would produce after a few cycles.
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I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.
If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed. Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.
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I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.
If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed. Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.
This is very true. I spoke to a fisheries person in regards to Alouette and he said the same thing. Not enough feed in these lakes and for what feed it does have the fish have to fight over it.
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I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.
If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed. Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.
This is very true. I spoke to a fisheries person in regards to Alouette and he said the same thing. Not enough feed in these lakes and for what feed it does have the fish have to fight over it.
But did the refertilization of the Allouette not solve this problem. From what I have herd is that the fish especially the kokenee are bigger then ever because of the work that hydro has paid for. This is also why the salmon runs are getting stronger as well because the fertilization they did in the lake has also helped in the river.
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It definitely worked in Allouette.
I hope they plan on continuing it there.
No reason why that lake couldnt be an awesome fishery for big Rainbows.
Nitrogen -plankton-Kokanee-Rainbows-Firstlight :D
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I went to lafarge on Saturday and the fishing was really good I was getting bites like every cast. I finally hooked one and it was about 1 pound or more. I was fishing off shore using power bait. when those frisken fish hit they hit hard because my rod was bent over big time when he hit.
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I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.
If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed. Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.
This is very true. I spoke to a fisheries person in regards to Alouette and he said the same thing. Not enough feed in these lakes and for what feed it does have the fish have to fight over it.
But did the refertilization of the Allouette not solve this problem. From what I have herd is that the fish especially the kokenee are bigger then ever because of the work that hydro has paid for. This is also why the salmon runs are getting stronger as well because the fertilization they did in the lake has also helped in the river.
The problem is their is so many kokanee. Thats the reason you dont find any kokanee over 12 inches. If their were less of them they would be bigger. Compare the kokanee of Alouette to those of Kawkawa. Kawkawa has kokanee up to 16 inches ( atleast form my experience ) Kawkawa either has less fish or just more feed.
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The problem is their is so many kokanee. Thats the reason you dont find any kokanee over 12 inches. If their were less of them they would be bigger. Compare the kokanee of Alouette to those of Kawkawa. Kawkawa has kokanee up to 16 inches ( atleast form my experience ) Kawkawa either has less fish or just more feed.
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Maybe stocking Gerrard's in Alouette could be of some benefit. Then we would have monster trout with lots of food to eat. I guess you might see a increase in size of the kokanee after the Gerrards take a share of them. The conditions are pretty good for Gerrards in Alouette.
CandT
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If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed. Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.
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garibladi is an very cold lake and glacier fed (its only about 5months iceoff), but there are so many fish in there ive caught rainbows constantly 11-16inchers and ive seen some big ones spawing over 3pounds