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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: charles on September 23, 2007, 02:40:10 PM
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Lots of people lots of fish... Some spots, more people than fish...
Pinks are everywhere. Some like to bite, some won't take anything you throw at them. Saw a couple fly guy and a CP guy with great success. Then went to another place under the bridge. It was again more people than fish :) Stand next to 2 guys under the bridge but that noise of rod ripping a couple of time per drift from one guy scares me, so I move up a bit. Saw a hole with no one fish and decide to try it. Second cast, this chrome fish came up. I can't decide if it is a jack spring or coho but since it was a hatchery fish (fin clipped), I bonked it. Packed it and asked the lady counter at parking lot and she thought it is a Jack... But I thought the head and meat looks like a coho. And later the gum and tongue color confirmed it... And just so you know, if its fin is not clipped, I would have letted it go since I wasn't sure if it is a jack spring or coho.
What do you guys/gals think?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/lamhoufai/IMG_1963.jpg)
Anyway, saw 3 guys across river had great success at hooking fish. So I went over and gave it a try in an empty slots. Figured out where the fish is and sure enough, the pinks were willing to take any offering. It was a great fun day. I think I have released many many pinks; some colored but a few chrome one. BTW, got one buck so humpy that it looked like a sailfish :)
I only bagged the Coho and safely released all the pinks... and if it is a coho, this will be my first.
one sad note, a father and son saw us fishing with good success... We were fish down by the grass side but on the bottom of the road. He decided to fish next to us but drift his thing right in front of us where we were fishing... what a great way to show his son how to take a spot where someone is fishing at...
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Nice fish looks like a jack but its hard to tell i might be wrong. Easiest way to tell is the base of the teeth at the gums is white.
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gum is white and tongue is black... I know, it is kind of confusing for me...
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sounds like a coho congrats
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good thing it wasnt a fin clipped sockeye ;D
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Looks like a coho
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I can tell a sockeye apart... just coho and jack confuse me...
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Looks like a coho to me. Look at the other thread from Sept 22 for pictures of some jack springs.
The tails are usually a quick general indicator (jack has lots of spots, coho few or none) The mouth is the dead giveaway - look at gums where the teeth are - white line= coho, all black = spring.
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Nice fish Charles. Similar thing happened to me last weekend... I caught a fish I thought was a Jack at first (had quite a few spots all over its tail), but when I landed it I saw white gums. The fish wasn't clipped so I let it go since I wasn't sure.
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Looks like a coho to me! Nice fish
Looks like it's the white gums, few but small spots on the tail (larger on the springs and more spread out on the tail), and the narrow caudal peduncle and pointed tail....also you'll know when it's a spring cause it stinks a lot more than a coho does..... lol Nice fish
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Oh yeah, and more orange/red flesh. Although there's a chance of catching a super late red spring but I doubt it.....
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Are you charles from richmond?
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from richmond? I fish in richmond, but I live in vancouver.
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I would guess a coho based on the pic...look at the jacks on bug pumper's report...see the heavily spotted tail, that is a dead give away for a spring.
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Nice coho I was fishing the upper part of the river and caught a 20 pounder spring caught a total of 7 fish
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Obvious coho. People REALLY need to learn to id fish. You know sockeye in the vedder are fin clipped too soemtimes right?
i do know sockeye can be clipped as well and if you read the post completely, someone already asked that question... I was just not sure 100% if it was a coho or jack spring as stated on my orginal post.
I just don't get it sometimes. I came in and asked a fair enough question and do a report. And you came along and gave it an attitude "REALLY". I am sorry that I was not an almighty fish god like yourself can obviously ID a fish and start telling people "REALLY" need to learn. I just don't have a born knownledge since birth that can ID a fish. I learnt it along with other kind fisherman that will share information and knownledge with others without thinking that they are almighty. I am sure you can tell the fish apart that you never have to learn from others and never have raised a question like that before. I am so sure...
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BTW, even the fish counting lady thought it was a jack spring... perhaps she needs a lesson from you too as well.
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Don't get too upset Charles, Birdman is pretty young and probably didn't mean anything.I don't think that fishes ID is that obvious at all. If you look close there are some spots on the lower tail that have faded since it was killed, and you can't see the gums well.
When I was on the river at my spot a guy came in that bragged alot about his ability and seemed to be a very good flycaster. He hooked a really nice jack and he thought it was a coho. He was about to let it go when I said that it was a spring jack. After we went over all the details that ID'ed it as a spring he finally believed me, but looking like a decent fisher.. I was surprised.
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Yep, what bug pumper said. One needs to look at who the comment is from and the age of the poster before placing emphasis on it.
For clipped Cultus Lake sockeye salmon information, please see:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/070917_1.html
Chinook and coho id differences:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/2006/0906_01.html
Nice coho BTW. All these good reports are making work in front of the screen rather difficult. ;)
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lol rodney... I am counting the days till my next trip...
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I'm counting the hours. ;)
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I'm counting the hours. ;)
less than 7 for me, then a 5 minute drive. ;D ;D ;D
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:( let's see, 4 more days...
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"it is not just him" - are you grouping me with everyone else that ID a pink as spring, and a sockeye for a chum? Sometimes you should really think before you type. I came in here and ask a question. And you came out with your attitude answer instead of informative answer. If it is that obvious, there won't be a post about telling jack spring and coho apart in the general section.
I usually don't associate age with know-it-all-type... in this case, I think I can make an exception...
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Just don't pay attention to him Charles :) I'm sure there isn't one person on here that can say that they've never had any trouble identifying a fish.
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Sorry, it's just that before I went fishing for the very first time my father and I made sure we could actually ID our catches before heading out, to me it just seems common sense and anyones responsibility to know especially if you plan on keeping fish. I sure wasn't great at catching when I started but I sure tried to learn my fish species
look here... you can read all you want from the DFO about how to ID fish. Sometimes, jack spring and coho can be confusing at time. As many here already said, it is not that obvious. And I wasn't saying what salmon this is. I stated that rather this is a coho or jack spring. I know I can keep this fish so it has no point on saying I am not responsiable. (Did you even read what I type?) I go so far to say I will release it if the fin is not clipped cause the doubt.
So don't group me in my thread with the people not being able to tell a pink for a spring or a sockeye for a chum.
This is the attitude we all needed in here.... I wasn't going to post anything in the report cause:
1) can't post picture unless you blank out the background cause it will give hint on where the fish is (people yell at you for that)
2) can't say where cause the same reason...
3) can't ask if a fish is a coho or jack spring, cause the know-it-all will flame you for not knowing...
4) can't report where the fish are biting cause it is a give away gong show the very next day...
and I don't think I am the first person to notice this happen...
At last, we have to be able to pass a test first to 100% ID even the not so obvious fish before we can all go fishing... And I am sure fish-god like yourself can 100% ID every single fish you have come across... including hybird... I am so very sure.
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stop posting on here charles, everytime you post, you get into so much dispute. People will say what they want to say. Remember, some of these people are little kids and they just want to piss you off. so let it be. And if they are goin' to say that they are not little kids, well, they sure act like it. hahaha
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true, I asked for opinion - not attitude :)