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Title: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: Geff_t on August 29, 2007, 05:08:11 PM
 Well I decided to finally make a trip upto squamish to do some fly fishing   ;D . This was a make up trip as fridays trip got cancelled. This was also my first trip up to squamish but from what I have read it is an amazing river and I sure was not dissapointed. I arrived at just after 7:30 ( was having trouble finding my way) and made my way down to the river and threw my first cast in and nothing. I knew there must be something there as there where a couple of seals around. Second cast nothing, third cast nothing forth cast fishon. A bar crome doe to hand and gently released. I slowly made my way down river and caught 3 more in the first hour there. I then came across a beautiful spot where I could see lots of fish rising and my first cast in fish on. And then another and another and another and this continued until my arms where fried. The action was amazing   ;D for three hours straight with the longest time without having a fish on was between 5-10 min. There where not that many people there today and they where not having as  much luck as I was but they where sure heading over to where I was after I packed up. I will post pics as soon as I get them up on my computer.


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Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: dereke on August 29, 2007, 05:26:34 PM
ya i was down there today as well and it was unbelievable. not many people out and must have gotten over twenty to shore. saw some dead fish for the first time since the run started. i still havent run into any boots yet with most fish being chromers.

tight lines
derek
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: BladeKid on August 29, 2007, 07:57:03 PM
thanks for the awesome report! what fly were u using? thanks
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: Geff_t on August 29, 2007, 08:28:54 PM
Pink wooly buggers, The ravor(Nicole's pattern. thx Nicole), as well as a lime green flashy bugger.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: BIG T on August 29, 2007, 09:07:15 PM
Hey fly_guy,nice pictures,thank your partner for his wake up call this morning :D
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: GoldHammeredCroc on August 29, 2007, 09:18:17 PM
Yeah, very nice indeed. 
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: stinkytroutboy on August 29, 2007, 10:35:49 PM
Pink wooly buggers, The ravor(Nicole's pattern. thx Nicole), as well as a lime green flashy bugger.

hot diggaty flies
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: Nicole on August 30, 2007, 12:15:36 AM
Pink wooly buggers, The ravor(Nicole's pattern. thx Nicole), as well as a lime green flashy bugger.

Awesome fish! Glad the fly worked... It's always a producer for me...

Reminds me, time to tie some more up...

Cheers,
Nicole
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: ejeffrey on August 30, 2007, 08:27:57 AM
Any advice on fishing the Squamish? My sister just moved up there and we're thinking about visiting them this weekend. I've never fished there before and do not know the river at all. Thanks.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: Geff_t on August 30, 2007, 08:38:17 AM
we where below were the mamquam runs into the squamish. Use google earth it will make it much easier to find.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: Rodney on August 30, 2007, 11:23:57 AM
The section downstream from the Mamquam River mouth would be the most ideal place to fish due to the clean water exiting from the Mamquam River. The Squamish River itself is generally quite silty this time of the year so this clean water allows anglers to fish properly.

If you're flyfishing, avoid having the fly drifting through too deep otherwise you increase the chance of foul hooking fish. If you are drift fishing, the simple float setup with a piece of pink wool would do the trick.

This is strictly a catch and release fishery.

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=103154&ID=recreational
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 30, 2007, 04:21:32 PM
Sorry to derail this report any further...

My undersanding is that if you are not going to retain salmon you do not actually require a salmon stamp.... Correct?
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: Arnie Salmonegger on August 30, 2007, 05:16:36 PM
Dragonspeed, you're correct. Link is: http://env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/salmon.html
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: bentrod on August 30, 2007, 07:35:56 PM
I would advise you to get your stamp however, no matter how well you handle the fish, you still stand a good chance of killing one.   
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: BwiBwi on August 30, 2007, 07:49:42 PM
If fish is hard to release just cut leader as close to fish as possible.  This will minimize mortality.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: BladeKid on August 30, 2007, 09:17:20 PM
I would advise you to get your stamp however, no matter how well you handle the fish, you still stand a good chance of killing one.   
   

Just because you killed it ( unintentionally of course), doesn’t necessarily mean you have to keep it.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: cut plug on August 30, 2007, 09:33:24 PM
Hi Nicole do you mind giving me the recipie for your famous pink fly? or a pic will be even better
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: bentrod on August 30, 2007, 10:02:14 PM
I may be speaking apples and oranges, but in Washington State, if you kill it, it goes on your catch record card whether you keep it or not.  Also, in WA, if you use bait, it goes toward your limit regardless if you release alive or dead.  enough on limits.  I guess I don't have a problem buying a CR Card even if I'm keeping or not because a portion of the $$ is going toward protecting the resource I am using.   
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: Nicole on August 30, 2007, 10:35:30 PM
Here you go...

The Pink Raver (tied on a low water salmon hook size 4 in this example, standard 4 is fine for dirtier water):

(http://www.nicolegoodman.com/albums/flypatterns/pink_raver.jpg)

body: silver diamond braid, forward part of body has wrapped lead underneath
wing, pink marabou, with a few strands pearl crystal flash
throat: matching pink saddle hackle

That's it, the fly takes no more than 5 minutes to tie.

Have fun with it...
Nicole
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: EZ_Rolling on August 31, 2007, 09:02:15 AM
nice fly
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: MERC on August 31, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
I would advise you to get your stamp however, no matter how well you handle the fish, you still stand a good chance of killing one.   
   

Just because you killed it ( unintentionally of course), doesn’t necessarily mean you have to keep it.

Page 9 of the fishing regs state it is unlawful to waste the fish you catch.  And the next one says it is unlawful to release fish in a harmful manner.  So, if you killl a fish unintentionally (possible due to incorrectly releasing a fish...or not) , it is unlawful to waste it which I would also presume to include not keeping it.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: bkk on August 31, 2007, 10:32:14 AM
If the river system is not open to retention of a fish and you unitentionally kill a fish, you must still return that fish to the water. It is not a "waste" as those nutrients go back into the food chain. You may not retain that fish! Otherwise everyone would say " It was dead or dying when I landed it so I kept it". If you keep that fish you will be charged with retention of a closed species. If you don't beleive me, try that argument on a Conservation Officer or Fishery Officer and see where it gets you.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: blaydRnr on August 31, 2007, 11:32:39 AM
first of all its pretty hard to kill a fish (unintentionally) unless you really don't know what you're doing.

obviously, it depends on the situation of time and regulation to what dictates an unlawful act.....if it is non retention, you must release the fish regardless of its state.  during an opening you are obligated to retain/record an injured fish....releasing injured or dead fish falls under the culling act.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: bentrod on August 31, 2007, 12:01:10 PM
I beg to differ.  It is not difficult to kill fish unintentionally.  I have spent the last few years collecting thousands of fish for survey and scientific purposes.  I have observed several fish swim off apparently 100% healthy then go TU after a few hours.  Fish can die from stress just as readily as they can from physical injuries.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: blaydRnr on August 31, 2007, 12:47:35 PM
I beg to differ.  It is not difficult to kill fish unintentionally.  I have spent the last few years collecting thousands of fish for survey and scientific purposes.  I have observed several fish swim off apparently 100% healthy then go TU after a few hours.  Fish can die from stress just as readily as they can from physical injuries.

maybe so, but i'm referring to physical injury due to mishandling. ie...trying pull a hook embedded too deep into a fish's throat....holding it up by its gills, or by its tail....or allowing it to flop around on a rocky beach.

stress is something that can't be controlled, but proper handling can maybe minimize it......handling thousands of fish doesn't eliminate mistakes it just gives you a better percentile.

if stress is a major factor like you say, then maybe the C&R industry should be reviewed.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: bruce on August 31, 2007, 12:49:57 PM
Could you please tell me how to accesss this river ? I will go there tomorrow. Thanks
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: Geff_t on August 31, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
Hey Bruce this was my first trip there as well. As for direction the best I can do is look up government street in Squamish on google earth. There is an access road to the dike from that street. Once you are on the dike turn right follow the dike till you see the cars and follow the trail to the river. Sorry this is the best I can do as I do not know the area all that well.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: dereke on August 31, 2007, 01:21:53 PM
 heading toward vancouver on government road you will come to a fork in the road. stay right and go across the train tracks, past the railway museum and you will see a small bumpy dirt road on the right hand side. go in there turn right at the top of the dike and follow the dike until you see all the cars. hope this helps.

good luck
derek
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: dereke on August 31, 2007, 01:24:12 PM
    I know it has been said over and over but remember that there is NO retention for any fish on this system right now....
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: bruce on August 31, 2007, 01:41:56 PM
Hey Bruce this was my first trip there as well. As for direction the best I can do is look up government street in Squamish on google earth. There is an access road to the dike from that street. Once you are on the dike turn left follow the dike till you see the cars and follow the trail to the river. Sorry this is the best I can do as I do not know the area all that well.

Thanks fly_guy, that is good enough.
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: bruce on August 31, 2007, 01:46:28 PM
heading toward vancouver on government road you will come to a fork in the road. stay right and go across the train tracks, past the railway museum and you will see a small bumpy dirt road on the right hand side. go in there turn right at the top of the dike and follow the dike until you see all the cars. hope this helps.

good luck
derek


Thanks very much
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: BladeKid on August 31, 2007, 02:25:50 PM
I guess I don't have a problem buying a CR Card even if I'm keeping or not because a portion of the $$ is going toward protecting the resource I am using.   

Thats a good way to look at it.

I would advise you to get your stamp however, no matter how well you handle the fish, you still stand a good chance of killing one.   
   

Just because you killed it ( unintentionally of course), doesn’t necessarily mean you have to keep it.

Page 9 of the fishing regs state it is unlawful to waste the fish you catch.  And the next one says it is unlawful to release fish in a harmful manner.  So, if you killl a fish unintentionally (possible due to incorrectly releasing a fish...or not) , it is unlawful to waste it which I would also presume to include not keeping it.

Notice how I said  necessarily
Title: Re: Squamish Aug 29
Post by: cut plug on September 01, 2007, 03:36:23 PM
Thanks Nicole, the fly looks good and better yet, it takes no time to tie! Cheers!