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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: Brothersage on August 22, 2007, 07:25:21 PM
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Fished the Vedder river Today and started at the limit hole. I was there for only half an hour and moved down ( couldn't handle watching all the bottom bouncers with six to eight foot leaders snag fish) Walked down river a ways and noticed some fish rising in a nice pool above what we use to call the ranger run.So I made my way down and first cast mid way through my drift a fish came up and took my float, second cast same spot same thing, Third cast this time the float goes down and my centrepin was screaming line after about a ten minute fight I landed a beautiful 6 - 8lbs Dolly. I quickly thanked her for the fight and sent her back home.I then hooked 7 springs landing only 2 but nothing worth keeping. All in all a great day on the river. All fish were caught using roe bags! Tight lines
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Thanks! great report, it's very encouraging. :)
might head up there next week, hopefully the weather permits.
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Just a word to the wise Brothersage, next time on your report, keep that descriptive info to yourself ,as if you do some research on here youll see the power of the internet, Look back at the first Cates Park report then look what happened soon after someone said Pinks are there, and if you had a problem with those brutal snaggers at the limit, then im sure some of them may read this report and do the same at that run....
Agreed.
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just a thought but if he had reported went fishing landed a beauty dolly hooked into 7 springs and landed two wouldn't you want to know where he was?
I don't see anything wrong with your report brothersage sounds like a great day of fishing.
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Cammer is right, I have looked in on that hole many times and seen 5-7 fishers jammed in it. His luck in finding it empty I believe is largely due to the lateness in the season but in general, if I find a a good spot usually no more than 2 or 3 close fishing buddies find out. No need to attract additional attention.
Let me ask you this EZ, do you know WHY that area is good? I know the run he is referring to and its a nice even flow...not too heavy...nice sized gravel...not to big...hmmm, lots of colored fish....even a dolley...do you know why there lots of fish there yet? Sounds like a great spot to SPAWN if you ask me...really there is ZERO need to advertise that success on the internet...cam is right, snaggers who dont give a dam will go down and harass those fish that should now be left alone.
PS - if a fisher always looks for the reported hot spots, how will he ever learn to identify those great spots himself???
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I totally agree with you guys. It is great to report your success but if you post exactly where you where trust me unless you camp out at the spot you will never get in there again. The power of the internet ruins more fishing spots then ever before. Also at this time of year people should really be leaving the springs alone. Let them do their job and spawn. Just think of it this way. Do you really want to be interupted when you are doing your thing ;D ;D. They only get one chance and then they die how would you feel ;D .
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I wonder what's the point of this fishing reports section if the advice is to keep your mouth shut about your trip. :( Stop the paranoia, or we'll start to look like the guys from WCBA that "went fishing to lake X", etc. BB'ers, snaggers and poachers would be BBers, snaggers and poachers no matter what, they don't need information on specific spots, they'll do it anyway, everywhere, everytime.
Yopesco
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On the other hand, isn't it a beneficial to post a report on his fishing success as well as areas where compliance is lacking? It brings awareness to the readers and hopefully more will phone in and report to boost up enforcement. It comes down to whether you want to look at this positively or negatively.
Thanks for reporting Brothersage. Like you said, those red chinooks have past their eating prime so I will wait until fall when coho salmon arrive, hopefully. A fun day nevertheless.
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No on says keep your mouth shut! ???
" BB'ers, snaggers and poachers would be BBers, snaggers and poachers no matter what, they don't need information on specific spots, they'll do it anyway, everywhere, everytime."
If they dont need the information THEN WHY GIVE IT TO THEM!!! You totally contradict yourself ::)
I am not against sharing things like water conditions, hot bait, a tip to help someone along, a nice pic which everyone appreciates...what ever. I just don't think you need to draw attention to a specific spot especially late in the season when it probably contains spawners.
But then again, I don't need to be told what rock to stand on in order to catch a fish ;)
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I wonder what's the point of this fishing reports section if the advice is to keep your mouth shut about your trip. :( Stop the paranoia, or we'll start to look like the guys from WCBA that "went fishing to lake X", etc. BB'ers, snaggers and poachers would be BBers, snaggers and poachers no matter what, they don't need information on specific spots, they'll do it anyway, everywhere, everytime.
Yopesco
Hey no one said keep your mouth shut. I really don't care if anyone wants to post exactly where they caught their fish. All we where trying to do is give a little advice if they want to fish that area again without a huge crowd around. But hey if you like to fish with a crowd then go ahead but you will never see me posting exactly where I fish unless I am at a lake. I will give just enough info that is needed and a pic.
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Sorry for totally highjacking your report BrotherSage but...
My thought is if there are lots of good reports on several areas it will spread the "bad" fishermen out where there is a possibility they could pick up some 'good" fishing practices if you have all the "bad" fishermen in one area they can only learn from one another and then the plague will spread.
If guys took the time to talk to some of these so call "bad" fishermen you may see all they want to do is catch fish and they learn from what they see ...
So ya go ahead and stick your head in the sand then complain about the "bad" fishermen on the internet.
the complaining and griping on this forum is getting out of hand.
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the complaining and griping on this forum is getting out of hand.
Wanna be a moderator? ;)
This has been debated many times by the same people. Stop hijacking the report, if there is a concern by you, please send it privately to the reporter. Otherwise, let it go because there are no guidelines on the report section that stop people posting what Brothersage posted.
Maybe we need to turn the report section into a subscriber only section.
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the complaining and griping on this forum is getting out of hand.
Maybe we need to turn the report section into a subscriber only section.
Ah... commercialism rears its ugly head ;)
CJ.
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I hardly think anything mentioned in that report is a secret.
Cates Park for Pinks a secret?Come on Cammer you can do better than that man.
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I hardly think anything mentioned in that report is a secret.
Cates Park for Pinks a secret?Come on Cammer you can do better than that man.
I agree in my limited experience. The Vedder is not a secret.
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I hardly think anything mentioned in that report is a secret.
Cates Park for Pinks a secret?Come on Cammer you can do better than that man.
I agree in my limited experience. The Vedder is not a secret.
Your right the veddar is not a secret but as the river changes so often why give away a productive spot that you find. True people that do the work to find different spots will find it, but those fishermen 9 out of 10 times will respect it and not crowd you out. The snaggers and flossers will usually never stray from there meat holes unless the hear or read on the internet the next productive area.
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the complaining and griping on this forum is getting out of hand.
Wanna be a moderator? ;)
Don't DO IT!!! It's not worth the pay!!!! ::) ::) ::)
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Wanna be a moderator? ;)
Don't DO IT!!! It's not worth the pay!!!! ::) ::) ::)
Quiet you, get back to reading... You want those free Tradex tickets next year no? ;)
Ah... commercialism rears its ugly head ;)
CJ.
Of course, gotta milk every cent that I can from the website. ;)
But seriously, if fishing pressure is indeed correlated to the amount of information posted in the fishing report section, then we should limit the readership right? ;) This would motivate those who can post reports and benefit them in return as well.
Back to the planning room...
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Wanna be a moderator? ;)
Don't DO IT!!! It's not worth the pay!!!! ::) ::) ::)
Quiet you, get back to reading... You want those free Tradex tickets next year no? ;)
Ah... commercialism rears its ugly head ;)
CJ.
Of course, gotta milk every cent that I can from the website. ;)
But seriously, if fishing pressure is indeed correlated to the amount of information posted in the fishing report section, then we should limit the readership right? ;) This would motivate those who can post reports and benefit them in return as well.
Back to the planning room...
Free tickets for the tradex, in exchange for moderating? Where do I sign up! ;D
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Never give away your secret Pink fishing spots unless your stupid....or something.
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I was there on the long week end in August. Almost not a sole. After saturday fishing maybe 8 guys on sunday and monday. Then it was reported here and boom , in a huge way super crowds. Is Cates Park a secret spot? Not a chance but the volume of anglers there changed dramatically after in was put on the internet. From 8 or so anglers to 20 plus the next, work morning. It's not the end of the earth but seeing that there have been a few schools of pinks in the Fraser and it's yet to be reported as red hot, fishing is a tad more pleasant over here right now. Once a few more guys show up, then it will be time to do reports on the Fraser.
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I think it's a great idea to have a more secluded location to post informative reports. It's like that on many other sites. It also makes anglers a touch more willing to report slightly less known spots.
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Maybe more of you need to save your pennies and buy a boat :D
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I hardly think anything mentioned in that report is a secret.
Cates Park for Pinks a secret?Come on Cammer you can do better than that man.
I agree in my limited experience. The Vedder is not a secret.
Your right the veddar is not a secret but as the river changes so often why give away a productive spot that you find. True people that do the work to find different spots will find it, but those fishermen 9 out of 10 times will respect it and not crowd you out. The snaggers and flossers will usually never stray from there meat holes unless the hear or read on the internet the next productive area.
I once heard from a great fisherman.....its not the spots....its the slots. ;)
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Well, useless to keep arguing about the benefits/damages of some post, I guess that'll be up to each member's judgement. That being said, it is my opinion that from the moment you start getting concern about "giving out information" the point of visiting the forum is missing, and perhaps those concerned should stay away from here. My opinion may be biassed, since I have learned quite a lot over the last years in this forum, from basic techniques to fishing spots, etc., and that wouldn't have been possible if most members would have kept the secretive style of posting on the grounds of limiting BB'ers/poachers/snaggers actions.
No intention to offend anybody, but it simply doesn't make sense to me.
Yopesco
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as with everything there are pros and cons to the fishing websites we use and enjoy,i think in our society today with the increasing population and types of people we encounter in our daily activities i think its great that there is so much info available for these people that are new to the sport to learn from.As well as learning techniques , run timing fishing methods etc,it also helps with people getting involved on the side of river cleanups and conservation as well as making people aware of the important issues that plaque our increasingly sensitive fish stocks.On the negative side of things though i think that the advent of the internet ,like so much other technology in our society today has made us lazy and want everything made easy for us.What ever happened to the days before the internet,for me i can tell you there were many days flogging the local rivers learning how to fish,to read water, presentation,best times to fish,best baits ,colours to use ,and the best spots to fish,there were more secret spots back then and they were usually found by actually going out and spending time on your favorite flow and learning,and when you arrived at your secret spot only to find another person fishing it,it wasn't a problem because you knew that person probably has put in the time to fish and walk the river to find the secret hole and just didn't sit at home on the computer waiting to hear pinks at Cate's park get out there.I guess what i am saying is get out there and fish and enjoy the time on the water wether you come home fishless or not,the more time we spend on the internet means less time to find that secret hole.
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I once heard from a great fisherman.....its not the spots....its the slots. ;)
Ya and dont forget what i taught you.
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Maybe more of you need to save your pennies and buy a boat :D
or marry a rich woman and get her to buy a boat for you!
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Well I didn't want this to turn into a " right or wrong thing" but to my defense even if the ( snaggers ) were to fish that hole they wont last long. The run is to deep and slow and the only way to fish it is with a float! I will however keep this in mind for my next report. Thanks to all. I still say that Dolly was a beautiful surprise though!!! Tight lines
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Maybe more of you need to save your pennies and buy a boat :D
or marry a rich woman and get her to buy a boat for you!
That's gonna leave a mark lol ;D
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But seriously, if fishing pressure is indeed correlated to the amount of information posted in the fishing report section, then we should limit the readership right?
*If* you truly believed that Rod, the logic of that theory forces you to only one conclusion.
Shut the down reports section of the site to ALL if you care about the fish.
No info, less fisherman.
Right?
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I found a great fishing site today - caught halibut, dolly's, huge coho, silver RED springs. Its on that short pier close to your house - you just need to walk really far out on it.
The beauty of Canada is freedom of speech - thanks for the report Brothersage.
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Free tickets for the tradex, in exchange for moderating? Where do I sign up! ;D
I wish! Of course you have to put up with slanderous accusations levelled at you in email and on various Internet fora that you don't even visit. ::)
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And, as we've drifted WAY away from the topic, we'll let this report go into the "Filed" category :)