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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: Fish Assassin on August 21, 2007, 04:57:17 PM
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5 float tubers, 6 cartoppers and approx. 6 guys from shore. Very slow. Nothing caught that I can see. Saw only a couple of jumpers. Still a nice day to be out. A reminder that it's a single hook, barbless fishery. Just because the buzz bombs come with triple hooks does not make it legal.
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Treble hooks are allowed to be used if they are barbless
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Treble hooks are allowed to be used if they are barbless
yup.
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They all had barbs on them.
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you took it upon yourself to walk to everyone and make sure the barbs weren't crimped FA?
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Not difficult to notice when they were fishing right next to you.
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Perhaps a quick reminder while the guy is standing beside you?
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Done
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Offer the next guy your pliers, or better yet, have him swing his lure over to you and crimp the barbs for him. It only takes a second, and the lesson will be learned and probably appreciated.
Nikko
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I have found and have seen some reports where you can bury the hook better on a single point than a treble. In my opinion, it's also better to net a fish with a single hook in it then with other hooks hanging out there to snag on the net.
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I have found and have seen some reports where you can bury the hook better on a single point than a treble.
ok people get 'the point', but let's not get carried away with the 'over sell'. the reason why dfo wants us to use single barbless hooks is because of the potency of the 'barbed' and 'multiple' hooks. if they weren't so effective they wouldn't need to regulate them.
size for size treble hooks are more likely to disallow a fish to spit the hook so i'm just curious as to what report you're referring to? ???
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I have found and have seen some reports where you can bury the hook better on a single point than a treble.
size for size treble hooks are more likely to disallow a fish to spit the hook so i'm just curious as to what report you're referring to? ???
I believe Rodney said he prefers singles over trebles yesterday.
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I don't think treble hooks are legal.
Treble hook is 3 hooks and the regs say single barbless hook.
So I am confused.
Here is the definition from freshwater synopsis.
single hook … a hook having only one
point. (In contrast, a treble hook is a hook
having three points on a common shaft).
Note: use of a treble hook is permitted
unless “single hook” is specified.
barbless hook … a hook without a barb on
any part of the hook, including both the
point and shank. Existing tackle may be
modified by completely removing the
barb, or by crimping the barb down so
that its point is flush against the shaft.
So you guys are illegal, I think.
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I don't think treble hooks are legal.
Treble hook is 3 hooks and the regs say single barbless hook.
So I am confused.
Here is the definition from freshwater synopsis.
single hook … a hook having only one
point. (In contrast, a treble hook is a hook
having three points on a common shaft).
Note: use of a treble hook is permitted
unless “single hook” is specified.
barbless hook … a hook without a barb on
any part of the hook, including both the
point and shank. Existing tackle may be
modified by completely removing the
barb, or by crimping the barb down so
that its point is flush against the shaft.
So you guys are illegal, I think.
I think you think wrong. Cates park is a salt water fishing spot so you need to get out of the Fresh water reg's and pick up a copy of the saltwater salmon reg's put out by DFO and check and see in the saltwater you need to fish a barbless hook but it can be a treble or single hook when fishing salmon.
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You're right, I stand corrected.
I was always wondering why we used treble hooks in Ucluelet a few months ago on a charter and I though any salmon fishing required single barbless hooks.
This clears it up for me.
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Treble hooks are barbaric.
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Was at cates the other day, was disgusted to see how many people intentially snagging fish. I tried telling them its wrong.
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Does this mean you can fish with barbless treble hooks on your pink lures on the Fraser from Mission and down according to tidal regulations?
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Does this mean you can fish with barbless treble hooks on your pink lures on the Fraser from Mission and down according to tidal regulations?
it looks like it, based on the tidal waters sportsfishing guide page 10. they must have changed it because in last years edition, it specified single barbless hook for area 29 and the georgia strait. please correct me if i'm wrong. ???
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As a paranoid newcomer (cough, beak, cough) I wanted to get the truth straight from the horses mouth, so to speak. So I contacted my friendly local Dep't of Fisheries people. Took a while to get through but their response was an unequivocal, "Yes, read your regs and check our site for continuing updates as to gear restrictions. Treble hooks are permitted in this fishery, provided that they are barbless hooks."
Just remember to don your thick skin before you hit the beach; some fellas get a bit steamy at the use of treble hooks, either cause they don't know the regs and are pissed that you may be doing something illegal or because they do know the regs but frown on trebles because of the increased tendency to foul hook with them. I find the second group of people much easier to deal with as the first group usually get their back up in a hurry and insist that everyone do as they say, "Cause I know what's what, dammit." Even when they're wrong.
For instance, had an otherwise meek looking gent in his 80's stop eating his picnic sandwich the other day at the little park just south of Crescent Island and tell me several times that all fishing on the Fraser was shut down so i'd better pull my rod up out the water.
"Above the Mission Bridge'" I told him.
"No, it's the other way around," he said. About 5 times. Meh. ???
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Sounds like a case of pride, getting in the way of the truth-some guys can't admit that they are wrong, even when they know it. I 've never understood this behavior- I think it is a poor self esteem issue.
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Just to add some clarifications to the comments already made regarding the regulations.
For Area 29, barbless treble hooks can be used except when fishing in the Tidal Fraser River. The tidal portion of the Fraser River includes the Fraser River downstream of the CPR bridge at Mission to a line drawn from a fishing boundary sign near the entrance to Canoe Passage, thence to a fishing boundary sign on Westham Island, thence following the westerly shoreline of Westham Island and Reifel Island to Pelly Point on Reifel Island, thence to Garry Point on Lulu Island, thence following the westerly shoreline of that island to the most northwesterly point of Lulu Island, thence to the most southwesterly point of Sea Island; thence following the westerly shoreline of that island to the Iona Island Road Causeway, thence following that causeway and continuing in a straight line in a northerly direction to a fishing boundary sign on the north shore of Iona Island, thence in a straight line in a northerly direction to a fishing boundary sign on the mainland. It also includes those waters of the Pitt River downstream of the CPR Bridge.
For Area 28, barbless treble hooks can be used except:
For salmon (Aug 1-Dec 31)
- It is prohibited to use more than one single-pointed hook in the tidal waters of the Seymour River from the BCR Railway bridge downstream to the fishing boundary signs located on the west and east shore of the Seymour River. Each hook must have a single point that measures no greater than 15 mm between the point and the shank of the hook.
- It is prohibited to use more than two single-pointed hooks in tandem (as when fishing with bait) in the waters of Burrard Inlet near the mouth of the Capilano River from the 14 St. Pier to Prospect Light on the seawall of Stanley Park to the north tower of the Lions Gate Bridge. Each hook must have a single point that measures no greater than 15 mm between the point and shank of the hook.
For other finfish species (Aug 1-Dec 31)
- It is prohibited to use more than two single-pointed hooks in tandem (as when fishing with bait) in the waters of Burrard Inlet near the mouth of the Capilano River from the 14th Street Pier to Prospect Light on the seawall of Stanley Park to the north tower of the Lions Gate Bridge from August 1 to December 31. Each hook must have a single point that measures no greater than 15mm between the point and the shank of the hook.
- It is prohibited to use more than one single-pointed hook in the tidal waters of the Seymour River from the BCR Railway bridge downstream to the fishing boundary signs located on the west and east shore of the Seymour River from August 1 to December 31. Each hook must have a single point that measures no greater than 15 mm between the point and the shank of the hook.
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some fellas get a bit steamy at the use of treble hooks, either cause they don't know the regs and are pissed that you may be doing something illegal or because they do know the regs but frown on trebles because of the increased tendency to foul hook with them. I find the second group of people much easier to deal with as the first group usually get their back up in a hurry and insist that everyone do as they say, "Cause I know what's what, dammit." Even when they're wrong.
I like to print out a copy of the latest fishery notice and carry it with the regulation booklet. This usually ends the debate pretty fast.
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So confusing. :P Just use a barbless single hook and you should be safe.
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I agree. The question I posted earlier is only a curious inquiry. Actually, I don't mind losing some pinks. Who wants to go home early when these fish are thick in the rising tides and can provide such a sport on light tackle? ;D