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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mabelingwane on July 20, 2007, 10:27:17 AM

Title: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Mabelingwane on July 20, 2007, 10:27:17 AM
Hi There - I am sure this has come around before, but I am confused, and it doesnt take much for that to happen ;D

How many rods can you use in the Chuck??? I thought one, but I see guys off west Van using two... What the heck, before I make a call tou our friends, i though I would find out how you guys read it?

Cheers and get out there and bonk them...
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 20, 2007, 10:50:52 AM
I believe you can use two if you are fishing by yourself.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Rodney on July 20, 2007, 10:51:19 AM
There is no limit to the number of fishing rods a licensed fisher may used in tidal waters (except in the Tidal Fraser River, where only one rod maybe used).

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Law/salmonpoints_e.htm

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Law/finfishpoints_e.htm

Also on pages 10 and 17 of the 2007-2009 British Columbia Tidal Waters Sport Fishing Guide.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: charles on July 20, 2007, 04:19:05 PM
It must be new...  I remember a DFO told some fisherman at ambleside last year to use 1 rod only...

But thanks Rodney for the information...  Now those people on the pier can stick 6 rods up all by himself so they can take over the whole side...  I can't believe they would put that one up in the guide book...  You would think 1 rod per person is pretty much all you need...
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: mastercaster on July 22, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
That DFO must have been confused...what Rodney said has been the rule in the chuck since...forever!
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Rodney on July 22, 2007, 05:06:14 PM
That's why carrying an updated copy of the regulation book as well as printed copies of the latest fishery notices don't only help you to follow the rules, but also correct the fishery officers when they mistakenly charge you with a violation. You can always fight it at court, but that's a waste of time, energy and money. Many fisheries officers are new recruits from other provinces, therefore there is a learning curve at times.

A few years ago, the pink salmon opening on the Fraser River was extended so a couple of members on the forum were fishing for them, only to be stopped by a fishery officers who were ready to write them tickets. They asked the fishery officers to check with the office for the update. After being corrected, the officer returned their licenses and commented that they were "lucky" as if the anglers intend to be out poaching.

Another case last year, an officer wrote a ticket to an angler who had some northern pikeminnows in the bucket, because he thought they were eulachons, which are closed for retention. Because of the language barrier, the angler was unable to convince the office that they were not eulachons.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: BladeKid on July 22, 2007, 06:46:44 PM
That's why carrying an updated copy of the regulation book as well as printed copies of the latest fishery notices don't only help you to follow the rules, but also correct the fishery officers when they mistakenly charge you with a violation. You can always fight it at court, but that's a waste of time, energy and money. Many fisheries officers are new recruits from other provinces, therefore there is a learning curve at times.

A few years ago, the pink salmon opening on the Fraser River was extended so a couple of members on the forum were fishing for them, only to be stopped by a fishery officers who were ready to write them tickets. They asked the fishery officers to check with the office for the update. After being corrected, the officer returned their licenses and commented that they were "lucky" as if the anglers intend to be out poaching.

Another case last year, an officer wrote a ticket to an angler who had some northern pikeminnows in the bucket, because he thought they were eulachons, which are closed for retention. Because of the language barrier, the angler was unable to convince the office that they were not eulachons.

wow...unbelievable :o
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 22, 2007, 09:27:24 PM
Many fisheries officers are new recruits from other provinces, therefore there is a learning curve at times.

A few years ago, the pink salmon opening on the Fraser River was extended so a couple of members on the forum were fishing for them, only to be stopped by a fishery officers who were ready to write them tickets. They asked the fishery officers to check with the office for the update. After being corrected, the officer returned their licenses and commented that they were "lucky" as if the anglers intend to be out poaching.

Another case last year, an officer wrote a ticket to an angler who had some northern pikeminnows in the bucket, because he thought they were eulachons, which are closed for retention. Because of the language barrier, the angler was unable to convince the office that they were not eulachons.

That's no excuse. Drivers are expected to know the regulationsof the road before being granted their licences.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Rodney on July 24, 2007, 11:33:39 AM
A fishery notice that came out today is somewhat relevant to this topic, please read on.

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=102519&ID=recreational

Please note the following clarification to the 2007 to 2009 BC Tidal Waters Sport Fishing Guide:

Page 17  6th bullet down is changed to:

There is no limit to the number of fishing rods a licensed angler may use in tidal waters except in the tidal portion of any stream or river.  It is illegal to angle with more than one fishing line in any lake, stream or river.

Please refer to the cover page opposite page 1 for descriptions of Tidal water boundaries in Areas 28 and 29 (Freshwater Region 2).

FOR MORE INFORMATION:

Contact your nearest DFO office or the recreational fisheries website at: http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/default_e.htm.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: IamCanadian on July 24, 2007, 12:59:22 PM
hmmmm
same over here, i was over at belcarra a few weeks ago
and this DFO told me that only one rod was allowed per user
i was so confused, as i thought belcarra was considered tidal water..isnt it? :-\
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Rodney on July 24, 2007, 01:05:28 PM
Let me get in touch with a few staff and get back to you.

Stay tuned. ;)
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Easywater on July 24, 2007, 08:11:12 PM
Aren't lakes and non-tidal rivers/streams under provincial jurisdiction?

It's always been that you can use 2 rods when fishing by yourself in boat on a lake, as well.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Rodney on July 24, 2007, 10:17:30 PM
Aren't lakes and non-tidal rivers/streams under provincial jurisdiction?

It's always been that you can use 2 rods when fishing by yourself in boat on a lake, as well.

Yes, but we're talking about tidal waters in this case.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Eagleye on July 24, 2007, 10:51:28 PM
I think Easywater might be refering to the second part of the notice that says "It is illegal to angle with more than one fishing line in any lake, stream or river." I'm confused as to why they are mentioning lakes, streams and rivers in an update to the Tidal Waters Sport fishing guide?
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: nosey on July 24, 2007, 10:53:06 PM
I somehow thought that there was a snag to this regulation whereas if you had someone in the boat that was not licenced you could only have the same amount of rods as you had licenced anglers, for example if there were 4 people in the boat but one had no licence you could only have three rods out. I could be wrong but this would make sense to me otherwise you could have a boat full of people fishing with only one of them being actually licenced.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: troutbreath on July 25, 2007, 07:30:36 AM
Thats the way I remembered it being, you could only have rods for every licence. Not fifty rods hanging out the boat cause thats snagging.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: BwiBwi on July 25, 2007, 10:49:47 AM
For fresh water you can only have 1 rod fishing from anywhere other than boat.  On boat you can have 2 rods to 1 person.

On the chuck you can have as many as you want you can have 50 if you're that good at seperating them out and not tangled together.

PS with 50 rods out that's not snagging that's netting.  ;D
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Rodney on July 31, 2007, 05:19:32 PM
Here is an update for those who were curious on the restriction of rod numbers at local piers as promised.

After discussing with the DFO regional manager and Steveston field office, my understanding of the regulation is correct, which is that there are no limit on the number of rods on local piers other than the ones in the tidal portion of streams (ie. tidal Fraser River). The DFO fishery officers have been briefed after this discussion so they fully understand when they are out enforcing.
Title: Re: Confused - How many rods can you use.
Post by: Mabelingwane on August 03, 2007, 03:31:40 PM
Here is an update for those who were curious on the restriction of rod numbers at local piers as promised.

After discussing with the DFO regional manager and Steveston field office, my understanding of the regulation is correct, which is that there are no limit on the number of rods on local piers other than the ones in the tidal portion of streams (ie. tidal Fraser River). The DFO fishery officers have been briefed after this discussion so they fully understand when they are out enforcing.

Thanx for that Rodney