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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: DionJL on June 19, 2007, 07:51:16 PM

Title: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: DionJL on June 19, 2007, 07:51:16 PM
I'll start off with a little background. My dad has a lawn matenience company, cutting lawns and stuff like that. The customer that i will speak of has been a client of my father's for over ten years. But definatly no longer.

So tuesday is "Surrey Day". As expected all the lawns are in surrey (less one that is in whiterock). The first cut of the day was at said customer's place. A few extra things had to be done so my dad brought an itemized invoice up to the door. The customer opened the door as my dad walked up the stairs and began to 'chew' out my dad about the new price of the lawn cutting. (one dollar more than the previous year to account for gas costs). When my dad finally convinces the man to pay he returns with the cash minus the GST. To which my dad replies "you forgot the GST", which led to another arguement. Finally the guy gets the rest of the cash and returns this time with his dog by his side. As the man counts out the money my dad pets the dog. They dog lunges at my dad and latches onto his mouth and nose. My dad pries the dog off having his hand bit in the process. Once the dog is off the owner pulls it back inside and slams the door shut while saying "Sorry my friend" as my dad knelt at the front porch dripping blood out his mouth and nose.

In my mind this is one of the most inhumane things i've every herd of happening to someone close to me. My dad had to go to a clinic to get stiches and antibiotics. He has also filed a police report and called the SPCA. He missed the rest of the day and had to pay his workers while he was in the clinic. My dad loves dogs but he wants to do all he can to have this one put down before this happens to someone more fragile, like a young child.

There isn't much point to this post other than to rant about how arrogant and self-centered some people can be. But to leave someone pouring blood on your doorstep without help and barely an appology has still left me wondering how inhumane some people can actually be.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: GoldHammeredCroc on June 19, 2007, 08:26:25 PM
Certainly reporting the incident to the SPCA is the best bet.  Speedy recovery wishes to your dad as well with no ill side effects.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: newsman on June 19, 2007, 08:27:23 PM
Yah there are people like that out there. Too bad but it happens. I hope your Dad told the guy to find a new lawn service.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: Fish Assassin on June 19, 2007, 09:00:09 PM
The guy is a complete jerk. Can't help but think his bringing out the dog seems like an intimidation tactic. Good on your dad for reporting it to the SPCA and the police. I would send the jerk the medical bills.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: coryandtrevor on June 19, 2007, 09:06:08 PM
That is absolutely rotten !!!! >:(. The fact that a: the guy was a good standing customer and treated your dad that way is inexcusable by itself, b: he slams the door in his bleeding face after his dog (pit bull?/rottie?/Sheppard?) bites his nose off is quite another matter altogether. The dog MUST be put down.Any dog or pet that shows aggressive tendencies like that cannot be around people at all. Just like you said, what if that was a child who had their face bitten ? A lawsuit might be in order as well seeing the circumstances. The way he treated you guys warrants more than a "I'm sorry'. Stick it to the scumbag !

CandT
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: Sam Salmon on June 19, 2007, 09:10:43 PM
Sorry to hear about the attack and I agree that your Dad needs to get a lawyer and go after the guy.



Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: oldtimehockey on June 19, 2007, 09:26:10 PM
Unfortunately there is a law in B.C. that allow every dog one "free" bite.  So, if the dog has bitten someone before and it has been reported then your dad can sue the owner.  If the dog hasn't been written up before then the owner has to decide what he wants to do with dog.  Keep it and risk being sued over the next bite, or get rid of the dog in fear of future law suits.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: ~IvAn~ on June 19, 2007, 09:40:26 PM
File a complaint with the rcmp and they will follow up on it.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: 4StarGeneral on June 19, 2007, 10:27:57 PM
Hmm that is not good, I to would file a report with the RCMP.

Then head down to your Local Home Depot and buy a huge supply of weed and grass killer............... ;D
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: gheart008 on June 19, 2007, 10:34:28 PM
He should have dialed 911 right there and then and got the police involved, showing up right at that guy's door.  That's just messed up.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: Lumps on June 19, 2007, 11:05:55 PM
Karma dude, he'll get his one day!
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: DionJL on June 20, 2007, 11:11:40 AM
Like i said my dad wants the dog put down. And yes he plans on getting our lawyer to send a letter to the guy. He also told me he thought it was an intimidation act that backfired because my dad wasn't afraid of dogs. As for the breed of dog my dad said that when it was a pup (5-6yrs ago) it looked like a dalmation but now it has lost it's spots and is a lot smaller than a dalmation should be. So it is some mutt cross.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: charles on June 20, 2007, 11:29:05 AM
Best wish to your father...

I would gather all the information you can... record the time, date, and such...  get all the bills, missing work, since your dad works with his hands doing lawn and all, you can claim those as well, and you can also sue for pain and suffering as well as the scare the wound left behind.

Just make sure your doucment all the information well, and you should have a solid case...
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: charles on June 20, 2007, 11:29:28 AM
forgot to add the police report too...
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: adriaticum on June 20, 2007, 01:56:32 PM
As the man counts out the money my dad pets the dog. They dog lunges at my dad and latches onto his mouth and nose.

Sorry man, why did your dad reach out and pet a dog he knew nothing about?
The dog should be taken to the SPCA and the owner should be put down.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: DionJL on June 20, 2007, 07:27:11 PM
force of habit i guess. If a dog doesn't look vicious the first thing i'd do is reach to pet it. I've been bit in the hand a few times but never broken the skin.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: Big Steel on June 20, 2007, 07:28:22 PM
Sorry to hear about this Dion.  ???  Best wishes to your Dad, I hope that he recovers nicely from this.  I love Dogs, but common....  This one should be going to doggie downunder.  Let's us know how this shakes out in the end.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: trout80 on June 20, 2007, 08:05:22 PM
Thats harsh that your dad had to go through that.He's just trying to go through his day and this slimeball pulls this over a buck!!I hope he recovers quickly. And I hope he hammers this butt sphinkter hard. >:(
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: scruffy on June 20, 2007, 09:04:34 PM
I hope your dads okay ,what a GOOF for letting something like that happen his dog should be put down ,i  also have a dog and I'd never let him go after anyone like that cause i know with the type of dog i got he would be put down forsure.Some people don't realize that a dog is like having a gun in/++ the wrong hands alot of bad things can happen.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: Hook Set on June 20, 2007, 09:06:29 PM
Thats terrible. I hope your dad gets better fast. What a jerk that guy sounds like. Hopefully he doesn't get away with it.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: chromer101 on June 20, 2007, 09:38:02 PM
sue the guy i agree scruffy but that is just wrong how the guy got worked up about just a few dollars hope your dad gets better
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: Sandy on June 20, 2007, 09:50:26 PM
Unfortunately there is a law in B.C. that allow every dog one "free" bite.  So, if the dog has bitten someone before and it has been reported then your dad can sue the owner.  If the dog hasn't been written up before then the owner has to decide what he wants to do with dog.  Keep it and risk being sued over the next bite, or get rid of the dog in fear of future law suits.

but the owner is still responsible for damages. dog needs to be shot , what if that was a kid.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: younggun on June 20, 2007, 09:51:59 PM
What a loser! I hope your father is ok, sue the guys @*$ for all he's got. That just crazy. And i've been bit before goin to pet dogs, no big deal. Stings then goes away.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: dennyman on June 20, 2007, 10:29:35 PM
Sorry to hear about what happened to your father. No excuses for this as the dog owner has to be responsible for his dog and have it under control. I am willing to bet this dog has received no obedience training, and that is a shame because all dogs big and small benefit immensely from obedience training. Hope your dad is successful in his claim against this person. And if the dog has to be put down so be it.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: BladeKid on June 20, 2007, 11:05:21 PM
I'm dumbfounded that someone would actually do that. I am also a dog lover myself but I agree that this dog NEEDS to be put down. A dog who attacks people for no good reason is likely to do it again. The  @!%@&^*&#^!&*^!^@&*!^##@ owner needs some serious repercussions. Anyways, hope your dad gets better.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: mojoman on June 21, 2007, 07:07:27 AM
when ever you approach a strange dog....do so with a closed fist slowly approching the dogs nose...let 'em sniff yer fist...not your fingers.....if the dog is gonna hit ya..its usually at first contact...a closed fist is not only hard for the dog to apply jaw pressure to but it is also your first line of defence...more than once I've dinged a mutt who "looked" friendly but wasn't...and a nose hit sure slows a dog down...sorry to hear a couple bux instigated this event...hope your dad heals up fast.


mojo
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: troutbreath on June 21, 2007, 04:44:52 PM
I agree about the closed fist and let the dog sniff your hand first. The dog may have thought there was a threat to the loser who dosen't seem to know his dog bites people. We have a gate by the front door so the dogs don't bite or urinate on people at the door. I delivered fliers as a kid and had a dog smash through a front window to get at me. I was wearing my hiking boots, not running shoes.
Title: Re: Total BS. (for lack of a better title)
Post by: fintail1 on June 21, 2007, 05:27:39 PM
It seems to be a bad year for dogs, this year i've had three different dogs come after me while skateboarding because their owners are too stupid to put them on their leash, but anyways that guy is just like the owners of most dogs, doesn't care what their dog does.