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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: adriaticum on June 18, 2007, 12:22:37 PM
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Hi,
One thing that I found ridiculous is that the hatcheries release information about what when they stock the lakes.
Yes I do want to know the money we spend on licenses and stamps is well spent but I don't want to know when the lakes are stocked. I found last year when the lakes were stocked a million floating tubes were in Murrin. So for 1 week every local fisherman and their grand son was there and than after that it was empty.
They swarmed the lake like buzzards on easy prey.
It would be much better if the fisheries didn't announce exactly when they stocked the lakes.
I would suggest that the hatcheries keep quiet about it.
Not knowing if and what you are going to catch is half of the fun of fishing.
Otherwise, they might as well just call us all up and give us the fish right from the tank.
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These lakes are considered put and take lakes.....
Let me tell you... there i nothing better than a 5 year olds smile when they catch a fish.... These lakes and the stocking announcements give less expierenced fisherman to have a shot at catching a fish.... I used to frequent these lakes but now can safely say i have the hang of it. THis means that i now go to places that are a little less crowded... at the same time enjoy the announcements because i can take my nephews out for a day on the lake and know they wont get bored...
thats my 2 cents... ;)
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I agree with the Reel Wrangler and Adriaticum's point of view but can appreciate Jettabambino's perspective as well.
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well these guys have to be real winners if they have top of the line gear and they are beating the junk out of stocked puppy chow trout...
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Don't you think that if they just quietly left those fish in the lakes like Murrin, the fish would starve. Theres always been people who do nothing but take those hatchery trout. I just hope they are OK to eat all the time.
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There should be some sort of reglation that states 30 days after stocking, x,y and z lakes are family fishing lakes, where there is an age restriction in place... Go fish BC should market the heck out of that, to create new fishers for the future.
Then after that, open it up to others...
Most other people have caught enough fish before, so they can wait.
They're nothing special, they're just catchables.
But to a kid, the catchables represent a new future, and the new stewards of our environs...
Cheers,
Nicole (an ex kid who liked catchables ALOT)
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nicely put nicole....i agree with your post
There should be some sort of reglation that states 30 days after stocking, x,y and z lakes are family fishing lakes, where there is an age restriction in place... Go fish BC should market the heck out of that, to create new fishers for the future.
Then after that, open it up to others...
Most other people have caught enough fish before, so they can wait.
They're nothing special, they're just catchables.
But to a kid, the catchables represent a new future, and the new stewards of our environs...
Cheers,
Nicole (an ex kid who liked catchables ALOT)
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good one nicole. i also think there should be more lakes with age restriction. ;)
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That suggestion would work if people would use 1 rod per person , single hook and no double dipping. I have reported the 2 rods several times and nothing happens. If they put an age restriction on certain lakes just after it's stocked whats stopping the above people in doing as they please , these people don't care . I am talking about sasamatt lake .
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So those of us that enjoy stillwater fishing on sat or sun that over 18 and under 65 should just go without?Or maybe we should get up at 2:00am and drive for 3hours then hike for another2 hours.That is probably the only way to find a lake that is not stocked.Give me a break.The stocking progam that is paid for by ALL of us is a great progam.And I will continue to enjoy lake fishing.
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So those of us that enjoy stillwater fishing on sat or sun that over 18 and under 65 should just go without?Or maybe we should get up at 2:00am and drive for 3hours then hike for another2 hours.That is probably the only way to find a lake that is not stocked.Give me a break.The stocking progam that is paid for by ALL of us is a great progam.And I will continue to enjoy lake fishing.
I do day trips to Merrit and surrounding area. I dont leave at 2am. I leave by 5am and arrive at the lake by 8am. Fish untill about 4pm and home by 7pm. Find someone to go with and split the costs. Not only are you catching fish you are catching QUALITY fish.
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Trout80, sounds like you're one of those "real winners" that jetta was talking about. ;D I know quite a few of them on the forum, in fact, I just saw one when I walked by the mirror. ;D I was going to go into details on the provincial angling market development strategy by the Freshwater Fisheries Society of BC, but it's pretty pointless after reading some of the comments. Good thing I fall in the "99% of the pressure" category. ;) Who wants to go to Rice Lake tomorrow? You can all borrow my Islanders. ;D
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http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishing_report/index.html
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http://www.fishingwithrod.com
adriaticum, the suggestion is not outrageous, but it is pointless to make it on here instead of delivering it to the agency that is responsible.
exactly i just wanna yell at em to let the toddlers have some fun.
Why didn't you? After all, they are violating your rules. Better yet, you should have applied some of the combat methods you've suggested on the forum, which are deleted by the way. This forum does not tolerate individuals who recommend people to enforce the law, especially with weapons.
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exactly i just wanna yell at em to let the toddlers have some fun.
Why didn't you? After all, they are violating your rules. Better yet, you should have applied some of the combat methods you've suggested on the forum, which are deleted by the way. This forum does not tolerate individuals who recommend people to enforce the law, especially with weapons.
Hahaha, owned.
Atleast the law-breaking anglers are being contained to a small area and being kept away from the QUALITY angling that Bryan speaks of. ::) Quality angling for stocked triploids?
I'll keep fishing bass. Atleast i know they aren't being pellet fed and stocked. ;D
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"Allright rod". I go trout fishing pretty much every weekend,( either sat. or sun.) from march to nov.Usually buntzen but sometimes lafarge I arrive at buntzen when they open the gates (7:45/8:00) I fish for about 3 hours.Have A great time and still have time to get other things done during the rest of the day. 8)
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"Allright rod". I go trout fishing pretty much every weekend,( either sat. or sun.) from march to nov.Usually buntzen but sometimes lafarge I arrive at buntzen when they open the gates (7:45/8:00) I fish for about 3 hours.Have A great time and still have time to get other things done during the rest of the day. 8)
Good, these are examples what the hatchery staff would like to hear. :)
The Freshwater Fisheries Society of BC stocks 10 million fish per year. Catchable Fraser Valley rainbow trout make up less than 1% of that stock to operate an entry-level fishery that will hopefully generate angling interest. Entry-level anglers come in all ages. Some have stopped fishing since childhood due to their career and are rediscovering this hobby, therefore investment in time and money will be small during this rediscovery. A put and take fishery within a short drive provides this opportunity.
These lakes also cater anglers such as trout80, who don't have the time to get away for the weekend to fulfill the need to angle. With the rise of gasoline price, these lakes also become more popular.
Entry-level anglers need to see success. Knowing where the fish are and how many boost their confidence and expectation. Parents who take kids out can plan their trips more accordingly to increase their chance of hooking a fish or two.
If solitude is an important aspect of your fishing outing, then don't visit put and take lakes. There are many catch and release lakes even closer than Merrit. These lakes are lightly fished and the fishing is fantastic. Visiting a small lake like Browning/Murrin right after stocking is just asking for trouble if you fall in this category. Murrin is already a popular spot for other recreational groups such as tourists, rockclimbers, and families who enjoy a picnic. Shore access is easy. It has crowd written all around it.
Even at a larger put and take lake such as Buntzen, you'll still be able to find excellent fishing quality if you have a float tube or boat.
Regarding double dipping, the use of two rods from shore and other defined violations, it is an enforcement issue.
I thought any type of fishing is fun, as long as it is done legally.
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Some of you have misunderstood me!
I'm not against stocking the lakes with fish, I'm just against announcing the dates and times when the lakes are stocked.
How many fish were put in and of what size.
When these announcements come and everybody swarms the lakes like buzzards.
And let me tell you when I see a guy catching a fish every 10 minutes and he sits on the lake for 3 hours, he ain't catching only the limit.
They should keep that under wraps. If they did, there would be fish in the lakes on more consistant basis.
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The problem is the "hog at the trough" guys who continually fish the lake until there are no more... It's really unfortunate, the greed of some people.
I have no problem with new anglers of any age, but I think preference should be given to families first with young children. They don't have the attention spans to sit more than 30 minutes without action.
Young families never seem to get a break these days, I really feel for them... I don't know why anyone bothers to have kids anymore, it's such tough work.
When I was six, dad decided it was time to get me into my first trout. After one day at an age restricted lake and coming up empty handed, my dad took me to TeePee trout farm at Cultus where I caught my first one:
(http://www.nicolegoodman.com/albums/Miscellaneous/firstfish.jpg)
Let young kids have a chance to catch fish...
Cheers,
Nicole
I'm suprised there are no age restricted lakes in Vancouver:
1Duncan Bings Creek
1Lake Cowichan Mayo Lake
1Nanaimo Chase River
1Nanaimo Millstone River, between Brannan Lake and Pearson Bridge
1Port Alberni Bainbridge Lake
1Port Alberni Rogers Creek
1Campbell River Willow Creek
2Coquitlam Como Lake
2Abbotsford Lonzo Creek, including tributaries
2Pemberton One-Mile Lake
2Sardis Sardis Park Pond
3Kamloops Paul Creek, below Paul Lake
4Fernie Coal Creek, below the old railway bridge located about 7 km above the Elk River
4Invermere Dorothy Lake
4Canal Flats Fisher Maiden Lake
4Cranbrook Idlewild Lake
4Warder Norbury Creek
5Quesnel Baker Creek, below Pinnacle Provincial Park
7Prince George Beaverley Creek
7Prince George McMillan Creek
7Mackenzie Mugaha Creek
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What lake in Vancouver do you think should be age restricted?
My vote would be for trout lake, it has lots of access.
Maybe Surrey needs one too by the sounds of the population growth there.
Cheers,
Nicole
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Nice photos Nicole, I see you haven't changed that much. ;)
GVRD can certainly use a couple more age restriction lakes, that I agree. I also question the effectiveness of an age restriction lakes if the purpose is to introduce fishing to those kids who have never tried it. Without guidance, a kid is not going to bring a rod down to a age restriction lake to do something that he or she has never done before. This is why the FFSBC has set up the learn to fish program, which will begin in a couple of weeks from now for the second year if anyone is interested. The learn to fish program includes a tour around the hatchery so kids are familiar with hatchery operation as well as trout biology. They also get to fish at the end at the trout ponds. Once done, they are given information on which lakes they can try out their new skills. The program is available in Victoria, Abbotsford and Summerland, visit http://www.gofishbc.com for more information.
Regarding seasoned anglers sitting at one spot and catching and releasing as many fish as they can while others are not, it is a ethical issue which differs from person to person. It happens just about everywhere, not limited to put and take lakes. One just has to take a look at the Lower Squamish River, Lower Vedder River and Stave River during the salmon season.
If a seasoned angler is sitting at one spot and catching and keeping as many fish as they can, then it becomes an enforcement issue. One should report it to the local conservation office.
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Dion those ugly spiny rays are stocked, usually by the bucket brigade. I even think they have a club. ;D
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Yah but they ain't pellet fed. I trust that those bucket brigaders who love those fish so much would take good care of them. Feeding them tenderloin and prawns and such. It would be a small price to pay considering most can afford those expensive bass boats. :P
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Last week i put the hurt on the Christina smallies. Filleted and released, was real tasty. ;D
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Nice photos Nicole, I see you haven't changed that much. ;)
GVRD can certainly use a couple more age restriction lakes, that I agree. I also question the effectiveness of an age restriction lakes if the purpose is to introduce fishing to those kids who have never tried it. Without guidance, a kid is not going to bring a rod down to a age restriction lake to do something that he or she has never done before. This is why the FFSBC has set up the learn to fish program, which will begin in a couple of weeks from now for the second year if anyone is interested. The learn to fish program includes a tour around the hatchery so kids are familiar with hatchery operation as well as trout biology. They also get to fish at the end at the trout ponds. Once done, they are given information on which lakes they can try out their new skills. The program is available in Victoria, Abbotsford and Summerland, visit http://www.gofishbc.com for more information.
Regarding seasoned anglers sitting at one spot and catching and releasing as many fish as they can while others are not, it is a ethical issue which differs from person to person. It happens just about everywhere, not limited to put and take lakes. One just has to take a look at the Lower Squamish River, Lower Vedder River and Stave River during the salmon season.
If a seasoned angler is sitting at one spot and catching and keeping as many fish as they can, then it becomes an enforcement issue. One should report it to the local conservation office.
At least someone like me can take their kids there and actually teach them to fish. If I take them somewhere else I get too caught up in fishing myself, I don't have the patience to deal with them all the time. But if I take them to a lake where I cannot fish I won't have a problem :D