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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: ko on December 28, 2006, 06:47:59 PM
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started to fish the upper river around 11:00, water has droped and cleaned up scince boxing day , not much fish up there,one guy caught a nice 8lb wild yesturday, i caught a nice 1-1/2 lb hatchery bow that i let live another day. i was told that it was a steelie{a first year) sounds about right. anyways no succsess today up top, hit the bottom half around 2:30 today,{lickman area) water is really starting to shape up,fished the whole run , finished till four thirtey with no fish, still a great day to be on the flow . Ive been fishing for the last week, and its nice to see the etiquite from guys before they step into a run, i dont know what happens to this when the fish start coming in , in numbers. it would be nice to see this kind of fishing to continue in the coming months. Anyways good luck to all .
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Iv noticed the ettiquet as well, but wait till all the flosser come when the fish are staked.
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I've never seen an area where they stake and the ettiquet is usaully like this during steelhead season it is just to bad that it does not carry over into other fisheries. There usually are no flossers out because it is to cold for them.
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No wonder you have not caught that many steelhead. You have been fishing the canal and bridge ;D ;D ;D .
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i hit a few spots around noon til dark, saw chris briefly near dark, tried to have a cross river conversation but couldnt really hear what he was saying but it sounded like he was skunked as i was :D
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No wonder you have not caught that many steelhead. You have been fishing the canal and bridge ;D ;D ;D .
Hey hey hey , I didnt know anyone really and its close to home so why not poke around, Ive seen some nice steelies caught out of there by people not flossing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Are you going to fish down there again?? ;D ;D I do ocassionally, but that is rare!! ;D In three trips to the canal, I have picked three out of there, so it can be productive if the timing is right!! ;)
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Years ago my grandpa and I would barfish the canal for steelhead and had good success. Havent tried it since. It would be a good get together though. Build a fire, have some fresh coffee on the go with my portable coleman coffee maker, some good eats. Doesnt sound like a bad idea at all.
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That was you kingpin, thought it was CAPTAIN BONK. ;D ;D Got out for a bit over an hour in the late afternoon, conditions were good from what they had been. All I found was a Maple Leaf Stealth lying on the beach ??? let me know if you dropped one below Peach Road.
Getting out today for a bit and then, with Gwyn distribute some carcasses' from the Chilliwack River Hatchery for the fertilization project.
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Years ago my grandpa and I would barfish the canal for steelhead and had good success. Havent tried it since. It would be a good get together though. Build a fire, have some fresh coffee on the go with my portable coleman coffee maker, some good eats. Doesnt sound like a bad idea at all.
That's how fishing should be, I've been debating on bring out one and setting it up on the beach too..but I can't drink any damn coffee now... :'( got to do that more, enjoyment factor 100%
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Searun used to do that as well and he said he used to do pretty well. It kind of sounds like fun, sitting back relaxing and enjoying good conversation, but I would be drinking some special coffee with a little kick to keep the belly warm.
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I hate all the guys that don't wanna move, because they just set up in one spot and cast all day. And if u drift just a little bit infront they have a hissy fit. There on the acessable side, while i've hiked with my dad from the canyon down, and i'm actually trying to hook a fish and these guys are just being real ...
Those are the people u have to watch out for, there's a few runs on the vedder like that!
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A friend of mine had a run in with a guy on boxing day...we were fishing on the move from the top of tamihi bridge down, when we came into the top of one of the pools down there, this guy stepped out to tie up and talk to his wife. Well we figured we'd just fish through quick as it was getting close to the 2 pm deadline. My buddy starts through first, and he takes a cast or two, and this guy walks back up to him and starts talking to him, well I thought it was just the prerequisite exchange of pleasantries, but as I am fishing through behind my buddy, this guy walks up to me and asks me if the guy ahead of me is a friend of mine. It was strange how he said it, there was obviously some tension there. I told him, "he is a friend of mine, yes...", and fished on...my other friend behind me comes through and this guy then walks up to him and appearently started asking him in a very bitter tone, if we were americans? ??? To which my friend laughed, and replied "no...", and proceeded to fish through. Well, I asked my first buddy, "what was that all about?", and he tells me this guy was mad at him for standing on his rock! Appearently, according to this gentleman, "he had been fishing that spot all day", and he hadn't moved and was fishing off "the rock next to his beer...", and that we "shouldn't be fishing his spot!!!". He continued to scowl at us from a distance, but didn't say anything more. He was somewhat beligerant, and by talking to him it was obvious he wouldn't be receptive to any form of explaination of ettiquette or technique of fishing a run from the top down and on the move...he "owned" that rock let me tell you...It's unfortunate, he didn't understand the ettiquette involved, and he had little else to say after that...we saw him back at the fish and game club afterwards in line for a burger, but he had nothing to say. None of my group were beligerant in any way, we were very polite, and my friend that went through the pool first had motioned to him that we were going to fish through...this guy just stood there muttering to his wife about us and scowling at us as we fished through the run...
I think he may have just been having a bad day, but he certainly was not the poster child for ettiquette in any way whatsoever...
It's sad really, he seemed like a really unhappy guy. Steelheading shouldn't make anyone feel that way...
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you guys did the right thing.... if he had approached his "spot" to begin fishing again i would have moved off of "his rock".... but, people have to learn.... most etiquette following steelheaders won't stand for a fence poster... and rightly so. When i encounter one, I fish through the way i normally would, affording the fence poster his section of drift. If they were to grumble about me fishing below them.... well... that's just too bad.... if they get beligerent... i have bear spray :D :D
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Heh I had the same problem yesterday, walked into a piece of flywater below on the way, and there was one other guy fishing up above. I started half way down, to fish the tailout. The guy above came down and started at the head, and then 4 guys started crawling out of the bush... two started at far down at the tailout, and the other two went above. By this time, I was done the tailout, and then went up to the top to work the rest, down to my starting point.
Well 2 more guys walked in, and plunked themselves right below me. They were drinking and swearing alot... I decided to not bother with a confrontation, as I knew I would just get pissed off, and nothing would come of it. I was spey fishing, so I needed some space below to perform the cast.
So instead, I just kept 1 stepping down after each cast, and soon I was about 15 feet away, and setting my anchor right in front of him. He finally started moving his butt, and made the effort of giving me a couple of stares. I just smiled and kept stepping down...
Soon he was swearing at his friend to start walking, cause he couldn't, and the f*&#$ing girl above him was gunning him down... Heh nice, very classy :)
Anyhow, he eventually stepped out and started at the head of the run, which is what he should have done in the first place.
I'm wondering if the vedder anglers will ever become receptive to rotational angling, it helps everyone fish more effectively.
Cheers,
Nicole
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I'm wondering if the vedder anglers will ever become receptive to rotational angling,
It's unfortunate, but often those who do not follow rotational angling, are not the "receptive" types. In my experience, they seem to be the type that feel they are always right and have something to prove...They also seem to be "meat" anglers who have little respect or understanding for the sport involved. Glory seekers if you will...I know this is a generalization, but I feel a valid one in most cases...
This gentleman I refered to, was oblivious to the concept that he might be in the wrong, he was obviously too preoccupied with his territory and griping to his wife to evaluate his perspective. My impression of him was that he was a "small" man, with the issues often associated with that complex...
Hopefully he learns from sites like this one and reevaluates his understanding of the sport...
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Jerks like that spoil what otherwise would have been a good day on the river. If that guy had been fishing the same spot all day he couldn't have been a very good steelheader. :D
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The run that searun and I where fishing on derby day went exceptionally well for rotational fishing. There were three other people there and we all fished our way down. When you got to the end you pulled out and went back up to the top to start agian with something else. All morning went this way with absolutly no problems but it only works this way if everyone knows what to do.
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Nicole,
I was with the four that walked in above you, I saw those guys blaze in below you, they seemed pretty cocky, we were out for a family day so thats why the group, after you left they continued to crowd us all around, my brother fished his way through and pulled a fish behind those guys, 10 lb hatchery, they looked pretty sheepish considering they crowded everyone out of the run.I fished this morning and killed a 10 lb doe behind 5 other so called elite pin fisherman.
seems like this year everyone has a center pin and a pair of simms waders. they only know how o fish the raditional holes and runs, no one seems to understand the little spots where the fish actually sit.
I had one fellow argue with me that my McDonald centerpin was a copy of an Islander,shows what type are out there.
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All morning went this way with absolutly no problems but it only works this way if everyone knows what to do.
Yeah, the entire day went well up until we met up with this guy...everyone else we encountered through the day had great ettiquette and followed rotational angling. It was good to see.
I fished this morning and killed a 10 lb doe behind 5 other so called elite pin fisherman.
seems like this year everyone has a center pin and a pair of simms waders. they only know how o fish the raditional holes and runs, no one seems to understand the little spots where the fish actually sit.
Who called them elite? Regardless of the gear someone uses, you always have the possibility of getting a fish in behind other fishermen. I fish a pin, but don't consider myself "elite"...I have had people get fish in behind me, and in turn I have done the same in behind other fishermen, experienced or inexperienced...that's just the nature of steelheading, you don't always get the fish, you fish with confidence and search them out, but that doesn't guarantee success even when you fish the water effectively...as for understanding where the fish will actually sit, well, that takes time, for everyone, I don't care who you are. Each and everyone of us goes through a learning curve, gear has nothing to do with it. Fishing traditional holes or runs, or more subtle holding water is a matter of experience, not what type of rod or reel one uses. Gear choice is just a matter of personal preference. If someone comes across as some sort of elitist, I am sure it has more to do with the quality of their character, not the reel they use. I have encountered many fishermen with this "air of elitism", both on pins and bc's, and I assure you it was their ego's that were responsible, not their gear.
No offence Tnt, but I think this "elite pin fishermen" statement is a generalization that only perpetuates the perception that some people have that centerpin fishermen are better than everyone else, that's not true any more than saying baitcasters are better than anyone else. In essence, most people understand that steelheading has nothing to do with being better than someone, let those idiots that feel they are in some elite faction suffer from their own ignorance, likely their attitudes reflect in every aspect of their lives, not just fishing. They will learn their own way the lesson of humilty that life, and steelheading in particular, teaches us all over and over again...
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If every one just learns to fish in peace, and to respect all other fellow fishermen. New Year's wish? ;D
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If every one just learns to fish in peace, and to respect all other fellow fishermen. New Year's wish? ;D
That would be nice.
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Nicole,
I was with the four that walked in above you, I saw those guys blaze in below you, they seemed pretty cocky, we were out for a family day so thats why the group, after you left they continued to crowd us all around, my brother fished his way through and pulled a fish behind those guys, 10 lb hatchery, they looked pretty sheepish considering they crowded everyone out of the run.
Heh, I'm glad to see you guys pick pocketed them then :) After I left there, I walked upstream and found more nice water up around the corner past the rip rap, try along the fallen cedars, looks like a nice soft shoulder in there, I'm looking forward to bringing my gear rod in there, no good for the spey... It's gimme water for sure, first come first served.
I see you were fishing with a lady, who looked like she was learning the ropes... Nice stuff!
:)
Nicole
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Ya some people are really inconsiderate. One day I was fishing a run and I stopped to tie a new hook and a guy steps into the spot I was fishing. I finish up and he doesn't move so I just fish a Little further down river. About 10 minutes later I get a fish on and it runs up stream. The guy casts over my line, so I give him a look and he tells me to get my fish out of his way! What is that?!? I give him a few words and he reels in. Some people. >:( :-\