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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bozzo on November 29, 2006, 11:04:09 PM

Title: Can you tie a 'bait-loop' to the end of your line?
Post by: Bozzo on November 29, 2006, 11:04:09 PM
???  A long time ago, I watched a fisherman break-off on a snag, then tie on a new hook directly on the remaining leader.  That newly tied hook included a bait-loop.  I've always tied my bait-loops to a separate leader, then tied the leader to my swivel, so seeing this surprised me.  The helpfull fisherman gave me a brief description on the "how to", but it wasn't absorbed.  I didn't want him to delay his fishing, repeating it until I would finally get it, so I thanked him and went on my way.

Many times, I've wished I could remember that 'tie' when my remaining leader looked good after a break-off.  So, do any of you have knowledge of a bait-loop tie that would be applied the same way?... It would give me more time fishing and less time fumbling with leader spools... not to mention the savings on leaders.
Title: Re: Can you tie a 'bait-loop' to the end of your line?
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 29, 2006, 11:20:36 PM
Snell knot http://www.animatedknots.com/snell/index.php?LogoImage=&Website=
Title: Re: Can you tie a 'bait-loop' to the end of your line?
Post by: MERC on November 29, 2006, 11:58:47 PM
Yes, I know a knot where you run the line through the eyelet of the hook, (other end still attached to your swivel and mainline), wrap around a few times and tighten.  If I can find instructions, I will  post.
Title: Re: Can you tie a 'bait-loop' to the end of your line?
Post by: fishfinder on November 30, 2006, 10:02:12 AM
Just look at the site Fish Assassin posted. It's the knot you were looking for.
Title: Re: Can you tie a 'bait-loop' to the end of your line?
Post by: Spudcote on November 30, 2006, 10:40:57 AM
I posted this picutre of how to tie a stopper knot on your mainline, but the same knot can be applied to a hook to form a sliding bait loop:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/spudcote/Stopperknot.jpg)
Just substitute the mainline with a hook shank, and have the line on the left (exiting the picture) going through the eye of the hook, this will form a knot on the hook shank that can slide, slide the knot down the shank, put in your roe or whatever and slide back up to the eye.

I know this knot is used on spade end hooks in Europe, and I've also seen it used in Asia on spade end hooks, but it works just as well on eyed hooks.

A word of warning, I've used the same knot for halibut leaders and salmon moohcing leaders, it snaps sometimes when using larger diameter lines, for this reason I've moved onto the bait-loops that require you to untie from the swivel and go from there.
Title: Re: Can you tie a 'bait-loop' to the end of your line?
Post by: allwaysfishin on November 30, 2006, 02:37:39 PM
yup... a good ol fashioned snell knot. I've been using it for years and years. I generally use the snell for tying wool leaders as it holds the wool much tighter than the typical bait loop knot. The only problem with using the snell for bait such as roe is that the bait doesn't hold together as well as the line cuts into it more. Never had a problem using the snell on my salt water rigs, cut plug, anchovie or otherwise. One of the first knots i learned.
Title: Re: Can you tie a 'bait-loop' to the end of your line?
Post by: cohokid on November 30, 2006, 10:10:03 PM
I agree, with alwaysfishin, using a snell hold wool alot better. But when i fish bait with that knot, i slide the knot down a little and works better the the improved bait loop.
Title: Re: Can you tie a 'bait-loop' to the end of your line?
Post by: Xgolfman on December 01, 2006, 05:00:40 PM
This may sound strange, but why would you? wouldn't that mean you'd have to carry empty hooks too? I don't see how it would be anything but more time consuming then just tieing on a new leader with hook to your swivel? Also, the remaining leader if broken could possibly be damaged from rubbing on whatever broke it so I wouldn't want to use it anyway...Just a thought, maybe I'm missing something here?