Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kelso on November 15, 2006, 11:56:42 AM
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Grabbed a bag of 100 Colorado #3. smooth nickel finish blades. Looks like I need two snap rings, two barrel swivels and a hook for each one. Does anyone make their own? Any tips, hints? Thanks !
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Hook spacing is critical! If you use a shorter shanked hook (like an octopus hook) then the blade can cover the hook point. To avoid this, I use a snap swivel. To be exact, I have a barrel swivel on top, to that I attach a split ring. On that split ring I add a blade and a snap swivel. Adding (or switching) the hook then is just a simple process.
I often spin cast my blades and will use a slow retrieve under the float too...for these methods, I prefer french blades (like on a blue fox). Due to the extra length of a french blade, the extra separation of a snap swivel is very important.
Conversely, if you don't want to use a swivel, then the longer shanks on siwash hooks are good.
I have not found a difference in hook ups between an octopus hook and a siwash so I go with what I have plenty of (gami octopus hooks).
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Hey Gooey, somehow I knew you'd be the first one to reply :) I'm going to head down to Army & Navy on my lunch shortly to get some split rings, Gami's and some snap / barrel swivels. #2 on the snap rings ? # 3 on the snap / barrel swivels and 1/0 or 2 Gami's? Whattya think ?
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I prefer size #10 swivels and #4 split rings. I like to add another split ring at the bottom swivel to ensure that the hook hang back from the blade.
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Guys, thanks for the info. Looks like I may be spending my evenings building blades in front of the TV instead of watching the 'Nucks. Does anyone make their own jigs? That's something I'm interested in as well. Thanks.
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I tie my own jigs using marabous and rabbit fur. Works like a charm. Nice way of spending an evening instead of watching the crap on TV
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Thanks FA. Do you pour your own lead as well or do you buy pre-made jigs in the weight / hook size you prefer? Can I get what I need from A &N or am I better off trying somewhere else?
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I buy my jig heads from Bob's Sporting and Berry's. You should be able to buy some jig heads from A& N but not the marabou or rabbit fur. You need to get those at your local flyfishing shop.
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Jig selection (blanks) are pretty poor in most cases around here...wrong sizes, wrong colors, cheap hooks...etc.
I pour my own jigs around gami jig hooks, powder coat them, and tie them up with all sorts of material...I don't think A&N will have much more than the blank jig heads.
Once you have found some heads you like, head to the fly shop for dressings. I got a good deal on a bunch of rabbit and some feathers from that shop thats closing down...they still had some material left too, may be worth a visit.
In terms of jigs, I like 1/4 and 3/8, those are my most common sized jigs. I pour them on hooks ranging from 2 - 2/0. Good luck, jig tying is fun and with all the different materials and colors, endless possibilities exists!
Oh, I read that a good rule for marabou jigs is 3 plumes minimum with one contrasting color..
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If you use split rings for your colorados, buy a split ring plier (a cheap one). Makes things a lot easier.
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Thanks for all the info thus far, appreciate it big time. So, last question of the day re: gear. I've been invited to go to Spences Bridge for Steelhead this weekend. Can I bring my drift gear or do I need a centre pin reel / rod combo? This is my first time out so any lure suggestions and what have you would be awesome.
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I personally would go with a drift rod. It's a big river and you want to cover alot of water in the least amount of time.
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Most of my steelhead on the thompson have been on 65 kitimat and coho spoons...much easier with a caster vs cp
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I use larger swivels for the body to get some extra weight on some of the colorado's I make. Also lets you use shorter shafted hooks if you don't have some Siwash's around
DennisK: that lure looks ridiculous. I believe that it was made from back alley pickens. If that's your bag then visit this site:
http://www.bottlecaplure.com/
My friend made up a bunch after seeing some show on them (he's from Saskatchewan). I told him they wouldn't work, but hey each to his own. You want to chuck bottle caps at fish go ahead.
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verry creative of the guy! Used what he had and it worked out, i use 2 # 10 barrel swivels and brass or silver blade size 4 or 5, 2 large slip rings, for extra length and a 1/0 silver or black gammy! Caught many a coho on these rigs, just not any this year, mabey the cap will produce saturday?!
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Ya I'm exaggerating a little. If it works, and its home made, its more fun anyway. One thing I will say is that I outfished those guys on shore all the time buzz bombing, from the kayak. I didn't have to worry about the tide catching me off guard either. I did try lots of lures right through thick schools of them without a bite, then drop the buzzer and fish on. Ah the good old days.
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Yeah, some pics of your killer colorados would be great. :)
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I tried making one tonight, here are some pics, a bit blurry. I think the split rings I used are too small but otherwise it's all I had to work with.
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Kelso, now just make a variety of them in differant blade size and metal finish types(dimpled). Looks good for one type of colorado. Use a split ring tool if you can find one, as someone suggested. Saves your fingernails from getting scratched etc. Also change up on swivel types, and split ring.
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Very nice Kelso. That will catch fish.
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That blade will be great for casting or under a float with a slow retrieve...can't help but thik if you drift that set up under a float, those heavy swivels will drag the blade down into the rocks and maybe dampen the blade'saction too.
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split rings are just fine, now make some more and get out there!
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Guys, thanks for all the info, tips and feedback. I also have managed to get my hands on 50 Gold Hammered Croc "blanks" so that will be my next project. Yeah, and a split ring tool will be purchased today. :) I used an old hook to split the ring but kept poking holes in my thumb during the process. :o
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Hi, Dennis K !!! very nice photos of the ole geezer's work !!! Bob Jones put out a book some time back, RE; making one's own lures.
ISBN 0888961413 : http://tinyurl.com/yytmlu
It's always a bit more fun doing for one's-self, be it full blown manufacture, or assembling bits and pieces.
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Sweet, thanks ! On to jigs at some point .... ;D
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Don;t mean to threadjack , but in the late 80s when I first started salmon fishing in BC and old timer who I knew at the mouth of the cap used a home made spinner in which he made virtually everything from scratch - incl. the blade from sheet metal to get just the right curve for the notoriously picky coho in the saltwater from where we were casting. He pitied me since I never caught any fish until he gave me one of his blades. I was always fascinated at how he made the components and was curious if anyone knew his technique for creating the shaft and any other parts you can see on the picture below. I'd like to keep his tradition alive (he passed away)....I think I know how he did the blades - hammered them down on a mold and the knot he uses for the hook I think I know (but could use tips)...it's the shaft I wondering about...thoughts?
ps..yes I know it's a barbed hook - it's a model only and I did not want to disassemble his "art".
ps...larger photo at link below photo.
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http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/stuffit2000/blade93.jpg
I found a spinner last year on the Cap that looked almost identical to those except it has 4 orange dots (same hue as yours) on the underneath side of the blade. The hook was rusty and the body of the spinner didn't look all that great so I just kept the blade cause it looked rather unique. Good to know it slays. ;D I guess the old guy used to fish one of my favorite honey holes. 8)
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I found a spinner last year on the Cap that looked almost identical to those except it has 4 orange dots (same hue as yours) on the underneath side of the blade. The hook was rusty and the body of the spinner didn't look all that great so I just kept the blade cause it looked rather unique. Good to know it slays. ;D I guess the old guy used to fish one of my favorite honey holes. 8)
He was a legend.
He knew every inch of that river.
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There was an old timer who used to fashion spinner blades from the lids of sardine cans. He fishes it off the mouth of the Cap and Ambleside. Man, they worked like a charm.