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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: bbronswyk2000 on September 16, 2006, 08:31:08 PM
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I wont name names and wont point fingers but I am an inquisitive person and just need to know. If someone has 30 sockeye why are they killing 12inch coho jacks? Dont take this personal. Do they need the meat that bad? I mean what ever happened to catch and release? What happened to fishing for the sport and not just the meat. I know myself I would release anything smaller than 4lbs right now since I have 10 fish in the freezer.
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second that...
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Hatchery Coho are meant to be taken for sport anglers, so why not enjoy another good meal you worked hard to find.
But yeah i believe to that so many people are just in it for the meat, and not the sport.
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I am with you there eddie. Why kill something that small. Take a picture it will last longer.
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haahahhahahahaahaa LMFAO, first of all my fish were not nearly 12 inches, They were capilano size 2-3lbs. And THOSE FISH INHALED MY ROE. and i mean inhaled. I had to cut the line both times to get the hook out and there were bleeding. Luckily they were hatch or those poor suckers were gonners. Sockeye is the only Meat fishery too me. I love early mornings on the vedder and love the feeling when my float rockets under!!! To me taking fish home is just a bonus. And if I drive an hour and a bit I sure hope ill bring something home ;D I sense some jealousy from eddis part ;D
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Ask rodney what they do with hatchery fish that make it back to the channel. They are there to be kept. However the only time i might consider keeping something that small would be if i was camping and it was early in the morning. ie: Breakfast ;D
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Either we keep them for consumption, or the hatchery sells them to be turned into dog food. :) So Iv heard.
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haahahhahahahaahaa LMFAO, first of all my fish were not nearly 12 inches, They were capilano size 2-3lbs. And THOSE FISH INHALED MY ROE. and i mean inhaled. I had to cut the line both times to get the hook out and there were bleeding. Luckily they were hatch or those poor suckers were gonners. Sockeye is the only Meat fishery too me. I love early mornings on the vedder and love the feeling when my float rockets under!!! To me taking fish home is just a bonus. And if I drive an hour and a bit I sure hope ill bring something home ;D I sense some jealousy from eddis part ;D
Jealous? Not really, I catch plenty of fish its not the point. I am more of a sportsfisherman than a meat fisherman. I love the feeling I get when a salmon, trout or anything takes my float under, takes my fly etc. I also enjoy the days when I catch nothing like today. Just getting out with my friends, being out in the frsh air, or just spending some quality time with my son is all I need to fullfill my needs to fish.
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haahahhahahahaahaa LMFAO, first of all my fish were not nearly 12 inches, They were capilano size 2-3lbs. And THOSE FISH INHALED MY ROE. and i mean inhaled. I had to cut the line both times to get the hook out and there were bleeding. Luckily they were hatch or those poor suckers were gonners. Sockeye is the only Meat fishery too me. I love early mornings on the vedder and love the feeling when my float rockets under!!! To me taking fish home is just a bonus. And if I drive an hour and a bit I sure hope ill bring something home ;D I sense some jealousy from eddis part ;D
Jealous? Not really, I catch plenty of fish its not the point. I am more of a sportsfisherman than a meat fisherman. I love the feeling I get when a salmon, trout or anything takes my float under, takes my fly etc. I also enjoy the days when I catch nothing like today. Just getting out with my friends, being out in the frsh air, or just spending some quality time with my son is all I need to fullfill my needs to fish.
Well said, That is why one day I hope to make fishing my job! Its relaxing, peacefull, fun, and really fun when ur catching fish, Taking one home is a bonus.
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haahahhahahahaahaa LMFAO, first of all my fish were not nearly 12 inches, They were capilano size 2-3lbs. And THOSE FISH INHALED MY ROE. and i mean inhaled. I had to cut the line both times to get the hook out and there were bleeding. Luckily they were hatch or those poor suckers were gonners. Sockeye is the only Meat fishery too me. I love early mornings on the vedder and love the feeling when my float rockets under!!! To me taking fish home is just a bonus. And if I drive an hour and a bit I sure hope ill bring something home ;D I sense some jealousy from eddis part ;D
Jealous? Not really, I catch plenty of fish its not the point. I am more of a sportsfisherman than a meat fisherman. I love the feeling I get when a salmon, trout or anything takes my float under, takes my fly etc. I also enjoy the days when I catch nothing like today. Just getting out with my friends, being out in the frsh air, or just spending some quality time with my son is all I need to fullfill my needs to fish.
Well said, That is why one day I hope to make fishing my job! Its relaxing, peacefull, fun, and really fun when ur catching fish, Taking one home is a bonus.
I think you should come out in my boat one day for sturgeon. I will show you why I dont need to keep fish.
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I would have killed those fish if i got em, i saw them right when they were gutted, nice looking fish. I bet 99% of you would have kept them if you werent catching much all day. Like others said all hatchery fish are there for are for killing for sporties. Now for instance if you were alowed to keep wild fish, and he kept those then that would just be something else. As they are part of real reproduction. my 2 cents, NICE FISH DANN
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Even those 12 inchers reproduce if they are let to.
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no really? i didnt know that ;D ;)
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eddi , 12 inch fish are about 7 onces. no one has kept a 12 inch coho, that is silly so please correct that ;)
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haahahhahahahaahaa LMFAO, first of all my fish were not nearly 12 inches, They were capilano size 2-3lbs. And THOSE FISH INHALED MY ROE. and i mean inhaled. I had to cut the line both times to get the hook out and there were bleeding. Luckily they were hatch or those poor suckers were gonners. Sockeye is the only Meat fishery too me. I love early mornings on the vedder and love the feeling when my float rockets under!!! To me taking fish home is just a bonus. And if I drive an hour and a bit I sure hope ill bring something home ;D I sense some jealousy from eddis part ;D
Jealous? Not really, I catch plenty of fish its not the point. I am more of a sportsfisherman than a meat fisherman. I love the feeling I get when a salmon, trout or anything takes my float under, takes my fly etc. I also enjoy the days when I catch nothing like today. Just getting out with my friends, being out in the frsh air, or just spending some quality time with my son is all I need to fullfill my needs to fish.
Well said, That is why one day I hope to make fishing my job! Its relaxing, peacefull, fun, and really fun when ur catching fish, Taking one home is a bonus.
I think you should come out in my boat one day for sturgeon. I will show you why I dont need to keep fish.
I have caught some sturgeon before. THOSE ARE SOME BEAUTIFUL creatures. I enjoy fishing for them. Put up one hell of a fight.
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Even those 12 inchers reproduce if they are let to.
,Ya you are right jacks are mature fish when they arrive back in the rivers and they do spawn if they get a chance.I have to agree with Eddie ,if a person has a fridge full of sockeye what is the need to kill the small jacks,I guess it comes down to personal choice,after all the hatcheries are there to be retained, as long as the fish are all eaten and not wasted,no problem.
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Yes thats exactly my point. The fish the hatchery release are their for people to catch also to provide nutrients to the river. If we let some go to reproduce we all win though as we will have more fish to play with in the future. I worry about fish getting wasted as those fish that get wasted could have either spawned or provided nutrients. I have no problem if someone takes a fish as long as it does not get wasted.Its those people with that bonk everything attitude. I have seen guys that as soon as that fish is to shore its bonk bonk bonk they dont think about letting a fish go almost like it was theirs when they hooked it. Some people I feel just need to be educated better and learn about the benefits of catching & releasing.
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I would have kept both those fish for sure !! so would 99% of people on this site
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so now you have no problem with those fish being kept, as long as there not being wasted. Well did roe kid said he bonked them just got the fun of bonking a fish?? i belive he ate them tonight? i belive. so then why did you start this thread and get every one all rialed up.
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so now you have no problem with those fish being kept, as long as there not being wasted. Well did roe kid said he bonked them just got the fun of bonking a fish?? i belive he ate them tonight? i belive. so then why did you start this thread and get every one all rialed up.
I never got anyone rialed up. If someone got rialed up they chose to get rialed up. Another person does not make another person have an emotion. The individual chooses their own emotion whatever it may be.
If someone has 30 sockeye in their freezer they do not need to kill 2 small fish. They choose to kill them and personally I wouldnt. Each person is entitled to their own opinion and this is my opinion. Thats whats great about these forums is you get to express yourself ;D
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Yes there is a need for better education out there on more than one level,I'm pretty sure i know several fisherman that take the time to help out those that wish to learn but this is a very large task,there will allways be some people that don't care and will continue to dance to the beat of their own drum at any cost to the resource.Now I'm just speaking in general and not trying to rattle anyones cage but it does make me wonder how much waste there is going on out there, this is not just isolated to the sportfishing community.
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FF who said I was talking about you? If the conversation between you and I get heated I wont be the one heated as I am very calm. I would never choose to let what you say affect my mood.
I know that on this forum I am kinda in a minority and dont have as many people backing me up. I find that kind of a challenge and I welcome it, especially to our younger anglers. If I can teach one kid something useful in one out of every 5 of my posts than I feel I have made a difference.
I try to preech? I am not trying to preech to anyone. I am just letting my opinion be heard. I have heard your opinion on here enough. Is my opinion not as valid on this forum as yours is?
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I didnt take any of what Eddie was saying as preaching...just stating an opinion. And IMO, hes right. I kept a 16inch jack this year, but have no other fish in the freezer and it was eaten the same day....and it was gooood.
And hey, not to hijack the thread, but if youre killing fish because of the "method" youre using (fish inhaling roe) and not because you need them, maybe you should try a method less likely to end in that result, like throwing spoons or flyfishing? I ONLY use bait when im out for the kill, because it does get inhaled so often.
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Fish inhaling roe,now that would make for a long discussion,lol ;) :)
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I think they should make like a politician and never admit to inhaling. Just only say that you tried it ;D ;D ;D .
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I didnt take any of what Eddie was saying as preaching...just stating an opinion. And IMO, hes right. I kept a 16inch jack this year, but have no other fish in the freezer and it was eaten the same day....and it was gooood.
And hey, not to hijack the thread, but if youre killing fish because of the "method" youre using (fish inhaling roe) and not because you need them, maybe you should try a method less likely to end in that result, like throwing spoons or flyfishing? I ONLY use bait when im out for the kill, because it does get inhaled so often.
Well im sorry marmot but most people will fish roe. Not every fish you catch will have the hook in its gut. And yes those coho were yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy. mmmm. so now you have no problem with those fish being kept, as long as there not being wasted. Well did roe kid said he bonked them just got the fun of bonking a fish?? i belive he ate them tonight? i belive. so then why did you start this thread and get every one all rialed up.
I never got anyone rialed up. If someone got rialed up they chose to get rialed up. Another person does not make another person have an emotion. The individual chooses their own emotion whatever it may be.
If someone has 30 sockeye in their freezer they do not need to kill 2 small fish. They choose to kill them and personally I wouldnt. Each person is entitled to their own opinion and this is my opinion. Thats whats great about these forums is you get to express yourself ;D
Well then why start this huge disscussion. And please dont right false information, No one has kept a 12 inch jack. I believe freaks was wround the 15inch range. So before you go trying to stick your nose in and stirring the pot because others are catching fish and your not, atleast get the facts straight ::)
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12 inches 15 inches it does not matter nor is it the point. A 1lb-1.5lb fish is barely a meal for one person.
If you don't understand why I started this discussion you either A: Have not read everything or B: Have no idea what I am talking about.
"So before you go trying to stick your nose in and stirring the pot because others are catching fish and your not, atleast get the facts straight Roll Eyes" The exact response I would expect from a kid that does not want to learn.
My comments are not directed at anyone in particular they are general comments. My initial post was just used as an example. It is very small in compared to the whole big picture of things.
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12 inches 15 inches it does not matter nor is it the point. A 1lb-1.5lb fish is barely a meal for one person.
If you don't understand why I started this discussion you either A: Have not read everything or B: Have no idea what I am talking about.
"So before you go trying to stick your nose in and stirring the pot because others are catching fish and your not, atleast get the facts straight Roll Eyes" The exact response I would expect from a kid that does not want to learn.
My comments are not directed at anyone in particular they are general comments. My initial post was just used as an example. It is very small in compared to the whole big picture of things.
Does not want to learn???????? Im always trying to sqeez out info and learn more from my fellow fishing companions. I SAID "So before you go trying to stick your nose in and stirring the pot because others are catching fish and your not, atleast get the facts straight Roll Eyes", Because you seem to be getting in quit a few predicaments lately, and saying how your the most honest person on the planet. As for the last comment "My comments are not directed at anyone in particular they are general comments. My initial post was just used as an example. It is very small in compared to the whole big picture of things".......................Thats just Bull##^#, A few reports came in and ur all mad because were keeping 15-18inch hos.
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All mad? I am not mad in the least bit. Getting myself in a few predicaments? I am not in any that I know of. Who said I was the most honest person on the planet? I said " I pride myself on my honesty " I did not say planet. If you are going to quote me atleast get it right.
One thing I will say is please dont assume. The posts about people catching those small jacks did not get me mad. It got me thinking, but did not get me mad. It got me thinking and these were my thoughts on the "BIG PICTURE" not one or two small fishing reports.
Now before posting a reply I encourage you to think before you type. I am not going to sit here and argue with a 13 year old kid.
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If someone has 30 sockeye why are they killing 12inch coho jacks?
Two different species and maybe they want something different for dinner or quick lunch ???
Its those people with that bonk everything attitude. I have seen guys that as soon as that fish is to shore its bonk bonk bonk they dont think about letting a fish go almost like it was theirs when they hooked it.
These guys who bonks everything attitude................do you fish with them or know them? I ask cuz how do you know that they bonk everything? It maybe just that one day. What if that's the only fish they've caught and don't have 30 sockeyes. If the fish is legally hooked, wouldn't it be fair to say that it is theirs if they land it and its a keeper?
12 inches 15 inches it does not matter nor is it the point. A 1lb-1.5lb fish is barely a meal for one person.
No, but if you have a salad, rice/veggies or potatoes with it and then you have a meal ;)
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Read what Im saying RK....im not saying "dont use roe".... I use roe on occasion for steelhead. Im saying there are other options out there if you've already filled your freezer that are less likely to result in gullet hooks. Maybe most of the people you fish with use roe, most of the people I know get them on the fly. It doesnt matter anyways what "most" people do. This is a specific scenario we're talking about with the caveat being "when youve got a full freezer". And no, not every fish will be gut hooked, but there is no other method more likely to have that result.
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Now before posting a reply I encourage you to think before you type. I am not going to sit here and argue with a 13 year old kid.
He's not 13! ;)
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I know this is a little off topic but BS change that brookback mountain pic. You are not that pretty to look at ;) ;) :D :D .
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Fishin Addict those people I am referring to was not anyone here. You will see people on lakes killing every trout they can because it is legal. You will see people catch as much salmon as they are allowed to. I have personally known friends that have had enough fish in their freezer to feed two families and yet they kept killing fish. I have lectured them and lectured them but to them killing the fish is almost like a trophy more so than the joy of eating them. They can have friends over and say hey look what I caught the other day and show the fish they caught by pulling it out of the freezer. Thats what I was referring to.
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All right I'll wade into this "discussion". I don't have a problem with people keeping a hatchery jack providing it doesn't go to waste.
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All mad? I am not mad in the least bit. Getting myself in a few predicaments? I am not in any that I know of. Who said I was the most honest person on the planet? I said " I pride myself on my honesty " I did not say planet. If you are going to quote me atleast get it right.
One thing I will say is please dont assume. The posts about people catching those small jacks did not get me mad. It got me thinking, but did not get me mad. It got me thinking and these were my thoughts on the "BIG PICTURE" not one or two small fishing reports.
Now before posting a reply I encourage you to think before you type. I am not going to sit here and argue with a 13 year old kid.
This will be my final post on this thread. If you amalgamate all of ed's inconsistancies in his posts, they are too much for me. No fresh chum can be caught up top at the stave...; I am 13; people are keeping 12 inch jacks...; your assumption that people who keep 30+ fish in their freezer waste some of them (because I know of many people who keep that many, and none go to waste); and your little hockey pool shenanigins, to name a few. You are only hurting your own integrity. I am tired of arguing with a man in his 40s. Grow up.
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I am in my 30's but thats ok.
I teach my kids to respect their elders unlike other parents out there.
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I find it interesting that no one has brought up the Gene Pool Issue. Now I am in no way for keeping ridiculous amounts of fish, however what is a 12" jack Coho supplying to the Gene pool of further generations? If you are interested in preserving healthy fish stocks in the future, then would it not be in your best interest to keep these jacks if legal? In my opinion, let the big coho go if you are interested in "conserving" our future fish stocks as these fish will truly produce the healthy large fish in the future.
just my .02
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I find it interesting that no one has brought up the Gene Pool Issue. Now I am in no way for keeping ridiculous amounts of fish, however what is a 12" jack Coho supplying to the Gene pool of further generations? If you are interested in preserving healthy fish stocks in the future, then would it not be in your best interest to keep these jacks if legal? In my opinion, let the big coho go if you are interested in "conserving" our future fish stocks as these fish will truly produce the healthy large fish in the future.
just my .02
You are quite right and it was something I considered before posting this. If you are in it for the meat than a small fish is not going to provide you with much of a meal. If you already have a ton of fish why keep "any" fish than. Why not wait untill your stocks are low. Like I have stated earlier my initial post this was an "example"
I spoke to someone via PM about this and even said this very same thing. If someone had posted that they had 30 sockeye and than shortly after showed that they just killed a couple trout I would have used that as an example. Its the meat mentality that is the main focus point of this discussion. How much meat is too much. If you eat fish everyday than by all means keep as many within your legal limit. if you are killing fish and are going to waste it than you are doing the entire ecosystem an injustice.
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Eddie, I can see your point in regrads to the thread, however I also remember being a younger fisherman much like The Roe Kid and should the opportunity to kill a fish or two present itself I remember taking it. However, as one gets older and wiser they appreciate the sport for more than just the fish and will find ways to challenge themselves such as catching a chinook or steelhead on the fly, spey fishing the Thompson/Dean, or getting coho to take a jig etc...
Muddler, in regards to jacks breeding with adult females and ruining the gene pool: (from what I can recall in articles and past discussions) their offspring are no different then the offspring of two "full" sized adults. Jacks are predisposition ed and the immature males are natures insurance to ensure that enough males make it back to the spawning grounds. If you really want bigger and more fish, improve spawning habitat, ocean survival rates and feeding conditions and yes genetics plays a role, but please do not underestimate the impact the environment has on a fishes "genetic" make up. Its pretty difficult to get big and healthy without good food and a conducive environment for growth. Tight Lines, Winter Steel.
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Why don't you hit up the gym and do some reps Eddie99 or go fishing, instead of creating a childish thread such as this? You say you are a father in your 30ies... act like it!
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Fishin Addict those people I am referring to was not anyone here. You will see people on lakes killing every trout they can because it is legal. You will see people catch as much salmon as they are allowed to. I have personally known friends that have had enough fish in their freezer to feed two families and yet they kept killing fish. I have lectured them and lectured them but to them killing the fish is almost like a trophy more so than the joy of eating them. They can have friends over and say hey look what I caught the other day and show the fish they caught by pulling it out of the freezer. Thats what I was referring to.
Who cares how many fish you have, or how much anyone brags to there friends about the fish they caught, or how many fish are in the freezer. If I have 20 fish, or 100 fish, why do you care? The bottom line comes down to this.
If it's not going to be wasted, WHO CARES! If it's legal, and will be eaten, WHY DO WE CARE WHAT OTHERS DO? I love to show others the fish I caught, who cares if I think it's a trophy, even it its not. The point is that if it won't be wasted, WHY DO OTHERS CARE?
If it was thrown in the freezer and then thrown out after 1/2/3 years of freezer burn, that's another story, but that's not what this thread is about.
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Now before posting a reply I encourage you to think before you type. I am not going to sit here and argue with a 13 year old kid.
I am in my 30's but thats ok.
I teach my kids to respect their elders unlike other parents out there.
Eddie hes right maybe your the one that should grow up. I find it offensive that you make age a big deal out of age. Yes were younger and may have not been fishing as long as you but no it does not mean your always right. Respects given when its deserved the way you are coming across is negative not educational. Some of us younger kids actually have some good info. To many people on these boards are getting the im above you attitude. Same thing every post slaging about something or other telling how they do it the right way. Education is great but only when its needed.....
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I am in my 30's but thats ok.
I teach my kids to respect their elders unlike other parents out there.
I hope they don't google your name when they're older and find this thread in some archives..........they'd probably be embarrassed.
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Now before posting a reply I encourage you to think before you type. I am not going to sit here and argue with a 13 year old kid.
I am in my 30's but thats ok.
I teach my kids to respect their elders unlike other parents out there.
Eddie hes right maybe your the one that should grow up. I find it offensive that you make age a big deal out of age. Yes were younger and may have not been fishing as long as you but no it does not mean your always right. Respects given when its deserved the way you are coming across is negative not educational. Some of us younger kids actually have some good info. To many people on these boards are getting the im above you attitude. Same thing every post slaging about something or other telling how they do it the right way. Education is great but only when its needed.....
I am with you Kellya all the way, even I am relatively not a young guy. ;D
Why not just leave these 'I am above u', 'I know more', 'Only my way & not yours', 'I am honest & you are suspect...' out of this forum. It just ruins forum unity and brotherhood of fellow fishermen. Have some respect for other fishermen, old and young, seasoned rods or newbies. :)
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Kellya, as a teacher of young adults by trade, I'm curious to hear your insights on when education is needed and at what point is respect given (open question to all young adults under the age of 17, sorry Gooey ;D). Does one receive respect out of what is said or actions done? You are absolutely right many young adults have much to contribute, but they also lack the discipline, at times, to cotrol their emotions and in turn that affects their thought process (a general comment). However, that changes with time for most. I'm not defending an opinion hear, but the initial topic/question I thought was a valid one and worth reading. The sharing of opinions is a wonderful way of learning some insight on various topics, if you take it as preaching, so be it, if you feel ridiculed by what others say it is your right to respond or defend yourself, that is what forums are about.
Weizen, why would he or his kids be embarrassed over a stance taken on a particular issue or are you refering to a comment(s) made earlier? Tight Lines, Winter Steel.
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Your right Eddie i do have to allways add my 2 cents and here it is. . . this thread is tottaly dumb and a waste of rodneys bandwith. :P
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i guess if you can't fish the rivers, the best alternative is to go trolling on line. not to name names or point fingers
you say why hoard the fish, if you have more than you need? others will ask you...you talk principle. why then do you even catch them (and expose them to potential harm) only to release them?
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Weizen, why would he or his kids be embarrassed over a stance taken on a particular issue or are you refering to a comment(s) made earlier? Tight Lines, Winter Steel.
. . . this thread is tottaly dumb and a waste of rodneys bandwith. :P
That's why
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somebody needs to turn the channel ::)
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Coho, chum, chinook, sockeye, pink all spawn once then die. Because the run is not in jeopardy, why not take a small fish out of the gene pool. I'd rather see a small one taken then a prize one.
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Sorry Muddler, it looks like I just reiterated what you said.
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Some of you people are just amazing.
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I am in my 30's but thats ok.
I teach my kids to respect their elders unlike other parents out there.
I hope they don't google your name when they're older and find this thread in some archives..........they'd probably be embarrassed.
Actually I am not embarrassed about anything I have said on here. I have always only stated my opinion and thats not to be ashamed of. They will see that their father stands up for what he believes in and their is nothing wrong with that.
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Jacks actually serve an important genetic purpose, they sneak a few genes into the pool from a different brood year to increase genetic diversity and as previously stated they are a "backup supply" of males just in case there is a shortage. Some will ask how a little jack would get a chance to spawn? They do it by drive by splooging: sneaking in a quick squirt while the dominant males are chasing off rivals or are otherwise distracted. That said I see absolutely nothing wrong with bonking a couple of hatchery jacks from the Ved.
As for the meat head mind set I can never judge because I was there. I have filled my freezer on many a year and had to start giving fish away to family to prevent freezer burn. I think the biggest factor for me was the glory of it all. There was nothing better than carrying a bunch of big Ho's or a chrome red around at the river while walking along the rotary trail to get back to the car. I always felt like a star and a great rod. Now I find myself in a different mind frame, I have retired from sockeye BBing and keep maybe 10 fish a year (Coho and Reds) enough for me to eat and my family can buy their own fish. That said I would never judge less experienced anglers for going through the phases that I did.
What I am getting at is yes I agree with Eddy that alot of guys are meat heads and I do find it frustrating. When some of my young protoge's that I taught how to fish and are now good rods in their own right call me to tell me about their full freezers I roll my eyes. But I never give them too much heck cuz I was there!
As long as you can eat what you bonk, and it is legal go for it. Some will advance to the next level of angling and some never will and that is fine and why DFO has to set limits.
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Great post Pat AV
I was not judging one person in particular from this board and people need to understand that. I have said on many occasions throughout this thread it was used as an "EXAMPLE" Some of you take things to literal.
Pat AV's post sums it up beautifully
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"drive by splooging", classic. Not to make light of it, you are correct. My buddy went to bonk a jack once and got "splooged" in the eye and chin when he did it :o (insert your own joke). Needless to say, he's still catching crap from me.
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Kellya, as a teacher of young adults by trade, I'm curious to hear your insights on when education is needed and at what point is respect given (open question to all young adults under the age of 17, sorry Gooey ;D). Does one receive respect out of what is said or actions done? You are absolutely right many young adults have much to contribute, but they also lack the discipline, at times, to cotrol their emotions and in turn that affects their thought process (a general comment). However, that changes with time for most. I'm not defending an opinion hear, but the initial topic/question I thought was a valid one and worth reading. The sharing of opinions is a wonderful way of learning some insight on various topics, if you take it as preaching, so be it, if you feel ridiculed by what others say it is your right to respond or defend yourself, that is what forums are about.
Weizen, why would he or his kids be embarrassed over a stance taken on a particular issue or are you refering to a comment(s) made earlier? Tight Lines, Winter Steel.
Educations key in fishing as it is in most things. Without the things i have learned in the last 9 years fishing i would be still be using a red white bobber with a worm. Im actually not against what eddie is saying just the way hes coming across always. I have only kept two fish this entire year a pink off a beach and a feeder chinook but thats just me. Its his choice to keep his fish no problem if he eats them all. Eddie you say it was an example dont take it literally but i dont agree. If i posted a thread on idiots and used you as an example you would probaly be mad and for good reason. No point in saying nothing on this forum affects your mood because your not a robot. Nothing wrong with voiceing your opinion its a good thing there are just different ways of doing it
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Kellya you said the way I come across. The only way I came across in a bad way is if you interpreted what I said in a bad way. Who posted a thread on idiots? I didn't. Some of you like to put words in my mouth. If you are going to quote me atleast have the decency to use direct quotes instead of making things up. I have not called anyone a name here, I have only expressed my opinion.
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I am in my 30's but thats ok.
I teach my kids to respect their elders unlike other parents out there.
I hope they don't google your name when they're older and find this thread in some archives..........they'd probably be embarrassed.
Actually I am not embarrassed about anything I have said on here. I have always only stated my opinion and thats not to be ashamed of. They will see that their father stands up for what he believes in and their is nothing wrong with that.
Well then please dont make false assumptions on what my parents are teaching me. That is something to be ashamed of. I respect my elders, and think everyone should deserve some respect young or old.
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Thread locked boys and gals. It's starting to become too personal. Best to communicate further via PM or email if you have something to say to a particular person. Thanks.