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Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: The_Roe_Man on May 03, 2006, 12:39:25 AM

Title: Scuds
Post by: The_Roe_Man on May 03, 2006, 12:39:25 AM
I always have trouble tying scuds as they always seem to swim upside down.  I hear people saying to use straight shank hooks but they still swim upside down. Any ideas! ???
Title: Re: Scuds
Post by: mojoman on May 03, 2006, 05:17:25 AM
mebbe try a tiny strip of lead on the bottom of the fly....just a thought from a retired tier...;))


mojo
Title: Re: Scuds
Post by: Chrome Mykiss on May 03, 2006, 06:18:20 AM
I do not worry about my scuds swimming upside down, because natural scuds will sometimes swim upside down too ;)  As you are stripping in the scud the fly will usually right itself when you pause between strips  ::) Another tip, is to use a loop style knot, same as you would for chironomids when attaching the scud to your tippet.
Title: Re: Scuds
Post by: Xgolfman on May 03, 2006, 08:01:39 PM
I do not worry about my scuds swimming upside down, because natural scuds will sometimes swim upside down too ;)  As you are stripping in the scud the fly will usually right itself when you pause between strips  ::) Another tip, is to use a loop style knot, same as you would for chironomids when attaching the scud to your tippet.

I haven't heard that before, what knot do you use and why??
Title: Re: Scuds
Post by: Chrome Mykiss on May 03, 2006, 09:43:19 PM
Most guys use a knot called a duncan loop for chironomid fishing, I use a knot that is very similar except I finish mine with an improved clinch knot  ;D A loop knot allows more movement to the fly, which is important with a suspended chironomid.
Title: Re: Scuds
Post by: flyfisherman on May 04, 2006, 11:48:18 PM
There is a pattern that is made so the shrimp is upidedown, so when fished at the bottom wont hang up on rocks or marl and are draged to stir up the bottom.
Title: Re: Scuds
Post by: Xgolfman on May 05, 2006, 04:44:07 PM
Most guys use a knot called a duncan loop for chironomid fishing, I use a knot that is very similar except I finish mine with an improved clinch knot  ;D A loop knot allows more movement to the fly, which is important with a suspended chironomid.

that's a great point, ill try it next time out, thanks.
Title: Re: Scuds
Post by: marmot on May 10, 2006, 10:05:49 AM
i agree 100% with mykiss....watch a scud swim in its natural setting and you'll see its a non issue.  Scuds swim sideways, upside down, rightside up, in circles, all over the place.  Dont sweat it!