Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: searun17 on December 13, 2005, 01:09:53 PM
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Seeing that we are all fishermen here we are all familiar with all the fishing stories and reports of our days and catches in our outings,as history has proven time again that there is nothing better than telling of our success or failure on the flow and the interest it garners from other fisherman,do you ever wonder just how many of those stories are actually just fabricated fish stories and not totally true,how many of us have done this , is it a habit to embellish our yarns or are we allways truthfull,not.
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Always truthful about my successes and failures - that's why I don't have many successes to post about ::)
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Ya i allways try and tell my stories truthfully,oh by the way did i tell you about the 35 lb steely i caught on the vedder this weekend,Lol.
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I also try to tell the truth in my posts as well! But there are times when my fishing buddies don't quite remember the same thing as I do!! ;D ;D I find that it is always helpful to keep a journal though, to refresh my memory about some days. I find that pictures help, as I know that a lot of people won't believe anything you say if you don't have pics!! Also some of my buddies in particular did not believe some of the stories until I showed them the pics to back up the story!!. As for weights of fish, I guess that we all emblesh at times. ::) That is what fishing stories are for!! ;D ;D
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i like "Based on real events that may or may not have actually happened". My fishing stories are true (to the best of my imaginative recollection).
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i like "Based on real events that may or may not have actually happened". My fishing stories are true (to the best of my imaginative recollection).
;D ;D ;) ;D
Funny thing, this thread has been up for 10 hrs, Only a few are posting in it!! ::) I wonder what that is telling us!!! Maybe there are some guilty consciences out there!! ;)
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Ya i think your right BS as of 11:27pm theres over 100 views and only 5 replies or maybe the post just bores them,lol.
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My buddy was at the ranger this past week end and some guy comes up and just starts blabbing that he and his buddy were having a great day. Not that my friend didnt care, he was just enjoying a quiet morning and this guy started sqwacking away.
Coho this, steelhead that....when my bud heard of a steelhead his friend hooked that morning, that interested him so he asked them about it...turned out the guys fishing partner had a fish take the float down, felt a head shake or two and a run, then it popped off! From what this guy was saying they didnt even see it yet he's running around saying they hooked a steelhead!
I think a lot of guys BS....its like some people just have to say something even if there is nothing to say (so they make it up). In fact the amount of useless/nonsensical postings on just about every thread here are becoming a detractant for me :-[
I think its time we all helped to clean things up here.
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HAHAHAHA BIG STEEL = BS
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There are very few peoples reports that I believe to be accurate without pictures.
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I would not have the time to bother to write a fiction story.(Well on second thought, maybe on Sports Chat talking about the Leafs ;D ;D ;D)
Seriously, if I think I am going to write a lenghtly fishing story here I sometimes make notes through out the fishing day to aid in the writing of the journal.
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There are some members who I would bet my life on...they are in the minority here.
Ever fish the cable pool for coho after they release the smolts, your bait doesnt last 30 seconds. This site is like a prime piece of steelhead water that you can't fish properly because of all the little bait bandits ruining your drift...here too, there are just too many little peckers.
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Interesting way of putting it Gooey ;D ;D
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ya Gooey you are right there are some people who tend to stretch the truth a little but thats as old as fishing itself wether we like it or not,as for your buddy at the ranger run on the weekend was the day he was there on Saturday? if so your buddies story is not quite accurate because it sounds quite similar to the encounter me and my partner had on Saturday with a lone fellow at the ranger,we arrived at the run and tried to have some friendly dialog with him regarding the days fishing ,we told him about the steelhead we had hooked and lost earlier in the day, the fish in question was a steelhead because we were able to have a good enough look at it to tell what it was, i think maybe your buddy probably wasn't really listen to our so called squawking or maybe he just isn't telling you an accurate report of the story,we noticed the fellow wasn't to interested in talking much so the conversation ended and the fellow soon left,for me i enjoy talking to other fisherman while on the the flow about the days fishing unfortunately some of the conversations i hear are not allways filled with truthfull content but thats ok its harmless and there is nothing wrong with a little friendly squawking among st fishermen.
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I believe there is often a golden grain of truth in just about anything. Sometimes I am just not willing to sift thru the BS to find that one grain.
The biggest problem I see here is that a lot of the posts ad volume but have no value in terms of content. It gets tiering looking thru page after page of internet drivel.
There are a few key offenders here and when looking for that grain or little golden nugget in a thread, their posts are nothing more than a ton of dirt dumped on top of it.
BTW Searun, I was wrong, the person who conveyed that story was out last weekend not this last one. None of my buddies fished this weekend.
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Offenders? ::)
Instead of whining about a lack of valuable content, why not contribute some valuable content? Is this valuable content that readers wish to read about?
Do we really want to have a lengthy discussion on who's lying on the internet and who's not? Do you always believe stories some stranger tells you on the river or do you just brush them off and continue with your happy life without analyzing it deeply?
Geez, at 120 posts per day, DS and I should really get a life instead of sifting through all this BS, what a waste of time.
Hey, I know, why don't we have a discussion on the classification of a flossed and ethically hooked fish based on the hook position posterior of the gill plate. ;)
I see the whining season has begun. ::)
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Geez, at 120 posts per day, DS and I should really get a life instead of sifting through all this BS, what a waste of time.
Hey, I know, why don't we have a discussion on the classification of a flossed and ethically hooked fish based on the hook position posterior of the gill plate. ;)
I see the whining season has begun. ::)
OK you - back to your Danish hibernation ::) ;D
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Sorry rod but my post was intended to touch on the age old habit of stretching the truth about our outings on the flow and what people think about it ,i did not mention anything about who is or isn't lying on the internet ,that was not my point,maybe i should have made my post a little clearer to understand on what i was trying to say,does general discussion not mean general discussion relating to most things related to fishing if not maybe we should talk about golf or something,lol.
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searun, my response was not directed at your intention of this post, but more to the sudden burst of complaints that Gooey has towards some of the members on the forum.
OK you - back to your Danish hibernation ::) ;D
Sorry, I'll go back to sleep now... :-[
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Sorry, I'll go back to sleep now... :-[
Better... And while you're at it....lose the freaky crane! I feel like I'm being watched :o
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#1 Rod, my apologies, I reread what I posted and I could see how you thought I was bitchin about the site. I find there are a core group here that are inteligent and thoughtful and convey information in a helpful manner. There are also a group here that are worse than useless, they DETRACT from the postive features of this site.
Case in point, lets review a couple of recent posts by someoe who shall remain nameless:
"o yes i know what it could be it might be similar to my sly cooper tmx cheeseir ,,"
"zip zap zooom zim zam sly tie fly"
you say: "Geez, at 120 posts per day, DS and I should really get a life instead of sifting through all this BS, what a waste of time."
Its because of nit wits like the author of the quotes above that I made my initial statements. Nothing against the site or its content in general.
If figure if a guy is bored enuff to write "zip zap zooom zim zam sly tie fly" he might as well grab a playboy and entertain himself instead of posting nonsense on this site (as an administrator I thought you would understand that position).
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I don't think the author of those quotes would even know what to do with a playboy.
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Must be cabin fever. Time to go fishing.
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Better yet, Are you going to be here tomorrow? Oh you are not?? great tomorrow will be a good day.. ;D ;D
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Gooey, apologies are unnecessary, I wasn't offended by thinking that you are suggesting the quality of the site content. My main point in the previous post was the state of the discussion forum is formed by the users, not the moderators. If you and other more experienced and knowledgable anglers think that some participants are shifting the forum to something that's not up to your standard, do you:
Continue to contribute useful information when requested?
Leave the discussion forum to find another place where your opinion is more appreciated?
Stop participating but openly suggest that other members are not worth your time and effort?
The individuals who you are talking about are all 15 y.o. or younger. Teenagers will always be teenagers, remarks like those are expected at that age. I remind them once awhile that their participation on the forum is only granted if they act responsibly. What are your suggestions to solve this problem? I certainly don't want to ban kids because of the way they are. This forum primarily caters novice anglers and people who want to get into fishing, repetition of "stupid questions and ideas" will continue to emerge. I think more experienced readers and posters on the forum will do fine here with some tolerance, patience and selective reading. Usually I skim through the posts by these kids in a thread, if it drags on for too many pages, we'll lock it or delete useless posts.
Anyways, you and other long-time members are encouraged to participate often and welcome to send me ideas on how the forum should be run. Cheers.
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rod, I don't think its dumb questions or ideas thats bogging down some threads...its the banter back and forth that seems to be less and less fishing oriented (and often just plain silly)..
You and others may have noted I havent been that active on the board in the last 3-4 months, I would be sad to say that the usefulness of this board has come to an end for me but for what I get out of it now, it seems to be too much work. Maybe once more post from guys like CG and yourself (when is the last time you posted a report?!?) etc start coming back then I will find the board more beneficial for me.
Do I have any suggestions for what I personally see as the problem? My first comment is to you: as the owner of this site does the non-fishing related banter and nonsensical posting choking out threads bother you? Am I the only one or are other long time users dropping off too and if thats the case is this an issue for you?
I dont think banning anyone is a good solution altho a certain level of decorum is required and people have been banned before for various infractions (verbal attacks, foul language, etc). So maybe the code of conduct for this site's users needs to evolve somehow.
I made a comment a while back that lots of the post here now are things that I think fishing buddies could carry on about over the phone or they could email/pm each other. Maybe with the level of non-fishing banter and interactions between site users, maybe its a good time to try and get a chat schedule going (move the guys having a chat/BS session off the threads and into the chat room).
I don't know if you think thats a dumb idea or not ;) but I think it could help.
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Thanks Gooey. The last time I wrote a report was back in late October. ::) I was quite sick for a good portion of November, and now I am stuck in windy Denmark. ;D Hopefully I'll have new write-ups when I catch fish. ;)
The non-fishing related banter is a concern, but I am not pulling my hair out yet. This time of the year is always like that, we've had it worse here. People are fishing less, but still want to participate, which results in what we are witnessing right now. I don't intend to make up new code of conducts as I like to believe we are able to moderate ourselves and no the limit. Chatroom section is being reviewed right now. The current chat program has too many pop-ups, so I don't intend to use that too much. We'll have a chat section up and running soon.
If the NFR content becomes out of control, then we may need a seperate board to cater that demand, kind of like what FishBC has (shoretalk), but I prefer not to go that way and keep our boards as fishing related as possible.
There are still many worthy threads that should interest the more experienced participants to get involved in right now, for example:
Interior Fraser River Coho Salmon, Proposed Listing on SARA (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9074.0)
Farmed Salmon now BC's top Agri Export (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9208.0)
HELP NEEDED FROM THE SPORTFISHING COMMUNITY ****PLEASE (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9122.0)
Census of marine life (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9215.0)
Vintage Centerpins (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9203.0)
Letters to DFO Minister Regan re: Lower Fraser gravel removal (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9133.0)
Why is it bad for wild and hatchery to interbreed ? Umm same species... (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9154.0)
post away... ;)
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I'd have to agree with Gooey. As much as I like to poast whoare around here, I don't 'usually' litter the board with utter nonesense posts. It sure would be nice to see some more well written and thoughtful post around here. Of course pictures are always worth a thousand words. I know that when I get back out onto the river you can expect some good reports from my camp (assuming the fishing is decent).