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Title: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: kosanin kosher salt on November 02, 2020, 10:08:03 AM
Who?
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Hike_and_fish on November 02, 2020, 11:12:06 AM
Canada needs a leader who will fight for the nation like Trump has done down south. He's better than Mr.Cross-legged socks guy that's for sure.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: IronNoggin on November 02, 2020, 01:32:21 PM
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Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: CohoJake on November 02, 2020, 01:46:08 PM
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Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: notmebud on November 02, 2020, 03:50:41 PM
you would just replace one idiot in Canada for a raving narcissistic looneybin from the USA, he must be a fisher, :o :o he wanders so far from the truth.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 02, 2020, 06:29:04 PM
...a raving narcissistic looneybin from the USA, he must be a fisher, :o :o he wanders so far from the truth.

!LIKE!
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Wiseguy on November 02, 2020, 06:44:00 PM
you would just replace one idiot in Canada for a raving narcissistic looneybin from the USA, he must be a fisher, :o :o he wanders so far from the truth.
LIKE
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: dennisK on November 02, 2020, 07:33:05 PM
It'd be great if some of our american members might chime in about their thoughts.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: JBB on November 02, 2020, 08:52:09 PM
if our " american members " vote for Trump, I don't believe they are capable of forming a coherent thought.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: CohoJake on November 02, 2020, 10:26:38 PM
I'd love to be able to fish in BC next fall. The US response to COVID-19 has been so miserable that I don't blame Canadians for not wanting us there.  It is incredibly embarrassing that so much of our country believes Trump has been a good leader on COVID - when more and more spread is his direct responsibility. From the shaming of mask-wearers to the continual rallies that have caused an estimated 30,000 infections to date, to the Whitehouse event that caused Trump himself to be hospitalized, but then when he got better he asserts it is because he has "good genes" and those who die are really just "weak" to begin with.  I honestly cannot think of anyone who could done a worse job with COVID.  His response has actually been worse than a lack of leadership - it has been anti-leadership.  If he totally handed off responsibility to someone else that would be one thing - but he goes far beyond that and actually sabotages the very things that help.

Americans have completely lost faith in humanity and each other.  Trump has made sure that we do not trust our leaders, our doctors, vaccines, science, or the goodwill of anyone who is different.  He has caused a run on gun stores by both parties.  Everyone is expecting violence after the election no matter how it turns out.

The longer the border is closed, the harder it will be to re-open it.  Trump does not want the borders open.  He doesn't care about our communities that depend on the tourism and trade the comes with open borders.  He explicitly does not care about any state that doesn't vote for him, so he doesn't care even about conservative communities in Washington.  He politicizes everything, so when Western states were burning, he blames it on Democrat governors, or claims that "antifa" started the fires. 

I pray for a time when I can join you guys on the river bank again, and I will happily share with you the amazing fishing I have found down here as well since the border has been closed.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 02, 2020, 10:47:39 PM
Well said.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: salmonrook on November 03, 2020, 12:26:57 AM
Here, here .
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 03, 2020, 10:57:42 AM
Well said.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 03, 2020, 12:20:41 PM
Speaking of "ANTIFA" - are people aware there is no such organization? Just another big Trump right wing lie.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: clarki on November 03, 2020, 01:16:46 PM
Speaking of "ANTIFA" - are people aware there is no such organization? Just another big Trump right wing lie.
Not sure that’s the case. While Trump’s claim the ANTIFA is a tool/tactic of the Democrats is untrue, ATIFA does exist, from what I have read. Yes, it doesn’t appear to be an organized organization (it has been referred to as a “loose movement”), it is an entity with roots in Europe, and more recently in North America.

Perhaps you are referring Trump’s threat to designate it as a terrorist organization, when it is not an organization as it doesn’t have a clear leader, structure or member roles.

Or are we agreeing?
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Dubs604 on November 03, 2020, 02:47:50 PM
Trump is a fascist, a racist and a liar. He cares only about himself. Within reason, I couldn’t imagine a worse president.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 03, 2020, 03:05:27 PM
Not sure that’s the case. While Trump’s claim the ANTIFA is a tool/tactic of the Democrats is untrue, ATIFA does exist, from what I have read. Yes, it doesn’t appear to be an organized organization (it has been referred to as a “loose movement”), it is an entity with roots in Europe, and more recently in North America.

Perhaps you are referring Trump’s threat to designate it as a terrorist organization, when it is not an organization as it doesn’t have a clear leader, structure or member roles.

Or are we agreeing?

The history of ANTIFA is that it was an organization formed by a coalition of leftists (communist and socialist) in Wiemar Germany a few years before  the Nazis came to power. It's purpose was to defend such groups from the violent attacks of Nazi Brown shirts at rallies. ANTIFA was quickly penetrated by the Nazis who once in generally attacked, injured and often killed just about anyone under the ANTIFA banner. Hitler and other Nazi leaders used their own surreptitious violence via the group to paint is as malevolent violent force; ie "Terrorist" Once he came to power Hitler banned ANTIFA, the first of many political movements and parties that were outlawed.

There has been no ANTIFA anywhere until the Trump administration and a few ANTIFA signs appeared at supposedly leftist opposition demonstrations. Who the people who brought these signs were unknown. There is no existing ANTIFA organization, loose or otherwise. What is known that right wing groups that support Trump have used similar tactics to the German Nazis of the late 20s and early 30s namely inciting violence at rallies by "leftist" rallies. I am sure we can all add 2 and 2.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Hike_and_fish on November 03, 2020, 03:33:04 PM
Trump is a fascist, a racist and a liar. He cares only about himself. Within reason, I couldn’t imagine a worse president.

FAKE NEWS

Totally not the truth. Look back over the past 4 year at what he has accomplished for the American people and you'll see that the statement you provided is NOT rooted in any facts at all.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 03, 2020, 03:36:19 PM
Here is a fact: over 230,000 Americans died under his watch during the pandemic.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Dubs604 on November 03, 2020, 03:43:14 PM
FAKE NEWS

Totally not the truth. Look back over the past 4 year at what he has accomplished for the American people and you'll see that the statement you provided is NOT rooted in any facts at all.

You say he's not a fascist, but he used the US military on US citizens for a photo op.

You say he's not a racist, but he calls his opponents names like "Pocahontas", and questions the birth certificate of his predecessor with no basis whatsoever.

You say he's not a liar, but he admitted to lying to the American people about the severity of COVID-19.

Give me a break.  If there's ever been a statement not rooted in facts at all, it's yours my friend.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: 4x4 on November 03, 2020, 04:12:13 PM
FAKE NEWS

Totally not the truth. Look back over the past 4 year at what he has accomplished for the American people and you'll see that the statement you provided is NOT rooted in any facts at all.

He's an embarrassment to the world including the US. 231K dead and many more to come. Only cares about himself and his money
 I don't know who is going to win the old man or orange face but some of your comments about him aren't very smart and with no facts.

He and a handful of his extended family who by the way are in positions they have no right to be in will hopefully go to jail if he loses.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bobby b on November 03, 2020, 04:47:30 PM
FAKE NEWS

Totally not the truth. Look back over the past 4 year at what he has accomplished for the American people and you'll see that the statement you provided is NOT rooted in any facts at all.

Fact is that you jump straight to  "FAKE NEWS"....with all caps no less, speaks to either ignorance and lack of critical thinking...same same.  Fake news is precisely what all dictators call out as they aim to discredit a Free Press... which is one of the most important factors in a Free democratic society.
 Looking back over the last 4 years is a nightmare that most do not want to re-live.
 He has done everything for himself  and his family in classic autocratic style. His actions mirror in so many ways, past Fascist leaders.

He is a lowlife cheat, an imbecile, a thief, a confidence man, a racist, a dotard, a sexual predator, a tax evader, did I mention an imbecile.

I guess he did accomplish something... "Person Woman Man Camera TV" .... gimme a feckkin break.... 

 

 
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Spoonman on November 03, 2020, 06:31:43 PM
...........you forgot mass murderer......
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: clarki on November 03, 2020, 06:36:48 PM
There has been no ANTIFA anywhere until the Trump administration and a few ANTIFA signs appeared at supposedly leftist opposition demonstrations. Who the people who brought these signs were unknown. There is no existing ANTIFA organization, loose or otherwise. What is known that right wing groups that support Trump have used similar tactics to the German Nazis of the late 20s and early 30s namely inciting violence at rallies by "leftist" rallies. I am sure we can all add 2 and 2.

I am not personally connected to ANTIFA, so I just go by what I read ( as I’m sure is your case too) but ANTIFA is not a Trump/right construct. Its’ presence in the US predates the current administration, however it certainly has become more visible in the past 4 yrs.

However, I don’t have a dog in this fight, and I think we both agree that Trump is not fit to be the leader of a country and needs to lose the election.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: ynot on November 03, 2020, 07:24:09 PM
 the so called racist has got more black,hispanic  votes  in florida than last election  why?
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 03, 2020, 07:33:33 PM
I am not personally connected to ANTIFA, so I just go by what I read ( as I’m sure is your case too) but ANTIFA is not a Trump/right construct. Its’ presence in the US predates the current administration, however it certainly has become more visible in the past 4 yrs.

However, I don’t have a dog in this fight, and I think we both agree that Trump is not fit to be the leader of a country and needs to lose the election.

First I didn't say it was a Trump/RW construct. I said they made it up as an organization and some sort of threat to public safety. Let me quote your own rather muddled words:"... it doesn’t appear to be an organized organization (it has been referred to as a “loose movement”), it is an entity with roots in Europe, and more recently in North America."

If it's not organized then it can't be an organization. Likewise what is a "loose movement"?  Feminism certainly is and has been a movement but certainly not an organization of and in itself.

I can also refer to Wikipedia's rather amorphous first sentences on it's ANTIFA (USA) article:

Quote
[Antifa] is an anti-fascist action and left-wing political movement in the United States[2][3][4][5] comprising an array of autonomous[6][7] groups and individuals that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of both nonviolent and violent direct action rather than through policy reform.[8][9][10][11] A highly decentralized movement, antifa political activists are anti-racists[12] who engage in protest tactics, seeking to combat fascists and racists such as neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other far-right extremists

An "array of autonomous groups and individuals"...can it get anymore diffuse than that? Frankly I think that many of those groups themselves are so obscure Wikipedia doesn't even name any organized groups associated with ANTIFA or even individuals. How can it  even approach being "a movement "? The article really just discusses the use of the phrase and doesn't attempt to answer is it real and who leads it and what groups or people does it comprise

Yet AG Bill Barr has described it as a "ramrod of violence" and there has been suggestions it be declared a terrorist organization and thus be made illegal. Can straw men be declared illegal? That is an utter fabrication.

This ANTIFA controversy has a flavor very much like the Satanic Ritual cults of 40 years or so ago. Tens of millions both in the US and here believed in these and were deathly afraid. Thousands of people suspected and even charged had their life ruined now it's recognized as just a case of mass hysteria. I think we are in a similar situation today.

BTW right now it looks like a toss up that Trump will be out of office.


Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 03, 2020, 07:38:20 PM
the so called racist has got more black,hispanic  votes  in florida than last election  why?

Hispanic but not blacks. Racial tensions between the 2 plus the right wing feelings of many of the Florida ex-Cuban community is well known.

Florida makes it look very difficult for Biden to win now unless the Michigan and Wisconsin vote counts flip their current trend.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: clarki on November 03, 2020, 07:59:41 PM
Disagreement (even when muddled) enriches the conversation.

Biden for the win!
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: dennisK on November 03, 2020, 08:11:33 PM
so how about those Leafs!

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Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 03, 2020, 08:12:08 PM
Bet both Trump and Biden are on their seats tonight. Will Trump declare victory tonight ?
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: wildmanyeah on November 03, 2020, 08:19:02 PM
Not looking good for Biden  going to be down to the wire
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Hike_and_fish on November 03, 2020, 08:21:57 PM
No point in arguing with children who have no original thought in their own mind. Hate only breeds more hate. I feel sorry for all the haters out there. I will pray for you.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Dubs604 on November 03, 2020, 08:44:09 PM
 ::)

Anyways. It’s too early to call anything. As of right now, no states have turned from 2016. Arizona looks to be going to Biden. Trump is currently up in Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn, but that doesn’t tell the whole story yet as, in some counties, very few votes have been counted thus far.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 03, 2020, 08:47:37 PM
FAKE NEWS

Totally not the truth. Look back over the past 4 year at what he has accomplished for the American people and you'll see that the statement you provided is NOT rooted in any facts at all.

can't really think of much he had done for the American people

he did load the US Supreme Court with "right wing" judges

he did enact an enormous tax cut in his first year in office

the economy did improve for a time but then nose dived during the pandemic

...but

he increased the National Debt by 6 trillion $ - that's close to 2 trillion a year

he didn't build a wall let alone get Mexico to pay for it.

he seriously damaged relations with many long time allies and cosyied up with a variety of dictators and Kleptocrats

he didn't get rid of Obama Care

he lost control of the House of Representatives. The Senate may go Democrat tonight.

He signed a treaty with North Korea but now turns his head when they break it --- still better than "Fire and Fury". Like every US President since Truman he looked at the prospect of nuclear war and chose diplomacy however flawed

as a businessman he was found to have discriminated against black and other colored people as part of his business practices. His companies were found guilty of fraudulent business practices.

He has the longest list of verified public lies of any President in history and few politicians come close to matching him.

He consistently undermined the democratic process.

Tell you one thing that not matter how this election plays out, it appears certain that a majority of US voters who actually voted would rather have Biden as President based on the popular vote and without the idiocentric nature of the Electoral College system of choosing the President he would not have been elected in 2016. The US is less than a perfect democracy. It may be less so than Canada.

Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: dobrolub on November 03, 2020, 10:03:21 PM
I think the democratic process was diluted already, Trump didn't make it worse. If anything he tried to make it stronger and in many ways succeeded. Unless you think that rule of law is not democratic.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 04, 2020, 08:06:30 AM
No point in arguing with children who have no original thought in their own mind. Hate only breeds more hate. I feel sorry for all the haters out there. I will pray for you.

your supporting the biggest hater out their. hard isn't it. he literary hates and belittles everyone that disagrees with him.

also please don't pray for me, that's half the problem. wondering how many evangelicals swallowed their pride tonight to vote for a guy that likes to grab woman by the pussy. trump sure does have some great christian values. just another way to control people "who have no original thought in their own mind."


 
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Dubs604 on November 04, 2020, 08:26:16 AM
Morning, fellow children.

When I went to bed, Trump was claiming victory and election fraud, while holding leads in certain states that had a significant number of votes still outstanding. When I woke up this morning, after folks in those states counted votes all night, Biden looks to be in position to take Wisconsin and Michigan. Biden holds leads in Arizona and Nevada, but they’re not yet in position to call those races. One thing the facts say, though, is that if Biden retains his leads in Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin, he’s the next president of the United States, regardless of what happens in Penn, North Carolina and Georgia.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 04, 2020, 08:35:54 AM
Bet both Trump and Biden are on their seats tonight. Will Trump declare victory tonight ?

He did! Once again proving what a complete my friend he is. America's own Alexander Lukashenko .

Right now it looks good for Biden as most think early and mail in votes will be largely Democratic. If he takes every state he currently leads he will get 270. If he takes Pennsylvania too he will hit 290.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 04, 2020, 08:49:11 AM
i would have called victory to if i had deal with all the lawsuits he has against him. the doj could also charge him with obstruction of justice related to ukraine if he is no longer the sitting president.

https://www.businessinsider.com/lawsuits-trump-will-face-when-he-leaves-office-2020-9
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: wildmanyeah on November 04, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
Looks like Biden is going to get a win. Looks like the democrats probably won't get the senate but will hold onto the house.

pretty impressive that trump was able to turn out 6 million more voters then in 2016. Not sure what that says about America. 

The polls were once again way off no blue wave.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 04, 2020, 10:34:43 AM
i believe the blue wave would have came if democrats could get young people excited. biden is a moderate with not the greatest voting record and offered really nothing to the progressive wing of the party. during the primaries he had little to no support and was broke. wasn't till obama behind the scenes got all the candidates to drop out just before super tuesday to ratify the moderate side of the party. how many times did biden disrespect bernie supporters during the final weeks of the election. trump actually feared running against bernie cause he was the only candidate to match trumps crowd sizes and enthusiasm, not to mention all the cash he was raising from small donors which is a good indication of grass roots support. bernie had actual momentum where biden had nothing. democrats left a lot on the table last night where thats the best you are going to get from the right.

trump basically lost to man that is in decline. during one of his last rallies he had actually called donald george lol. now hillary and donald have something in common. they both lost elections that were easy lay ups for them to win. all trump had to do is pretend to take covid seriously and he easily would have won the election.



Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 04, 2020, 12:00:14 PM


trump basically lost to man that is in decline. during one of his last rallies he had actually called donald george lol.

Actually this was debunked almost before it hit the media. Biden was speaking to comedian George Lopez. The RW  twitter-verse instantly lit up with the faux gaffe.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/joe-biden-donald-trump-george-bush_uk_5f97400bc5b6e1e70763552a?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNhLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANuXdTj7q8E5yas0GOP3ulNmoFBETYngdFn6HwqJWyZRdp2X6Xl19CmP1qAelYZf-1wYl9lhNMSvVAmnXQnUQbnAL1BgvGXgQR6xhAnhdamKdaYDJSyHydkNyIDMQUzRX3lP7k2CZjxzjFg5D2LqmoaczRtKU-VJ_DlSvAd9WZx1

As far as the primaries... as soon as Biden hit the big states where he had deep roots he took over race. Many miner candidates then dropped out as did Bernie after Biden won California - the writing was on the wall for him. Obama had nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 04, 2020, 12:57:54 PM
Actually this was debunked almost before it hit the media. Biden was speaking to comedian George Lopez. The RW  twitter-verse instantly lit up with the faux gaffe.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/joe-biden-donald-trump-george-bush_uk_5f97400bc5b6e1e70763552a?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNhLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANuXdTj7q8E5yas0GOP3ulNmoFBETYngdFn6HwqJWyZRdp2X6Xl19CmP1qAelYZf-1wYl9lhNMSvVAmnXQnUQbnAL1BgvGXgQR6xhAnhdamKdaYDJSyHydkNyIDMQUzRX3lP7k2CZjxzjFg5D2LqmoaczRtKU-VJ_DlSvAd9WZx1

As far as the primaries... as soon as Biden hit the big states where he had deep roots he took over race. Many miner candidates then dropped out as did Bernie after Biden won California - the writing was on the wall for him. Obama had nothing to do with it.

you may be right about the george thing but you are incorrect, bernie won california. biden only than took the race once  steyer, buttigieg, klobuchar dropped out the days before super tuesday. hmmm, why would they drop out a few days before super tuesday. i wonder if a certain someone promised them a role in the administration if they followed orders. time will tell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

bernie had a clear path to victory as long as bloomberg, klobuchar, buttigieg, biden were splitting the centrist vote. than magically they all dropped out and backed a biden. not that this matters now.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 04, 2020, 01:13:37 PM
sorry, my error Sanders did take California.

However, Biden won the most delegates (more than half available) on that particular day that was super Tuesday and took 10 of the 14 state primaries.  ::)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/03/us/elections/results-super-tuesday-primary-election.html

After that day (March 3rd) Biden took most of the primaries often with big majorities, Sanders much less so, which you can read & see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 04, 2020, 01:25:18 PM
Biden wins Michigan. Republicans going to the Supreme Court to halt counting in Pennsylvania claiming voter fraud with no evidence to substantiate their claims.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 04, 2020, 01:40:36 PM
sorry, my error Sanders did take California.

However, Biden won the most delegates (more than half available) on that particular day that was super Tuesday and took 10 of the 14 state primaries.  ::)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/03/us/elections/results-super-tuesday-primary-election.html

After that day (March 3rd) Biden took most of the primaries often with big majorities, Sanders much less so, which you can read & see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

correct, never argued that. just want to make the case as to why biden won in the first place because without the others dropping out early at the same time he would not have won. i also believe someone was telling warren to stay in the race to pull some of the vote from sanders. it was rigged just like it was in 2016. then you wonder why the democratic party is hated so much.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 04, 2020, 01:46:25 PM
Biden wins Michigan. Republicans going to the Supreme Court to halt counting in Pennsylvania claiming voter fraud with no evidence to substantiate their claims.

this isn't a surprise. he has been saying this for weeks, even though trumps own fbi director contradicts what hes saying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/us/politics/fbi-director-voter-fraud.html
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Dubs604 on November 04, 2020, 01:58:43 PM
this isn't a surprise. he has been saying this for weeks, even though trumps own fbi director contradicts what hes saying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/us/politics/fbi-director-voter-fraud.html

Let’s hope Biden’s leads on Arizona and Nevada hold. If so, Biden hits 270 and Trump’s bellyaching about Penn won’t matter.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 04, 2020, 02:09:32 PM
correct, never argued that. just want to make the case as to why biden won in the first place because without the others dropping out early at the same time he would not have won. i also believe someone was telling warren to stay in the race to pull some of the vote from sanders. it was rigged just like it was in 2016. then you wonder why the democratic party is hated so much.

they dropped out because it was clear they could not win. Their funding dried up as it always does when it's clear a candidate can't win Most supported Biden to unify the party and keep Sanders out. Sanders is not a Democrat and largely regarded as the spoiler in 2016 after supporters declared they would rather vote for Trump than Clinton an accusation that contains much truth IMO.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/mar/02/how-can-bernie-sanders-run-democratic-primary-when/

Within the Democratic Party Sanders was also widely considered to be not electable due to his left of centre politics. In the same vein Kamala Harris was considered by many independent voters to be "too progressive" and may have hurt Joe Biden's performance at the polls yesterday, as may his pledge to slowly phase out fossil fuel and the apparent false claim he would ban fracking. Otherwise the ticket may have had a closer chance in Texas.

Personally I think that Sanders was too old and too left of centre to be electable. Likewise I wonder why the party did not have a younger more vigorous candidate than Biden. I doubt he will run again in '04 if he is elected.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 04, 2020, 02:11:35 PM
Biden wins Michigan. Republicans going to the Supreme Court to halt counting in Pennsylvania claiming voter fraud with no evidence to substantiate their claims.

interesting to note Trump claimed fraud and stated he would go to court before Nov 3rd and now claim there was fraud at the polls in Philadelphia. I think they are reading from the same script put together in 2016.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 04, 2020, 03:09:57 PM
they dropped out because it was clear they could not win. Their funding dried up as it always does when it's clear a candidate can't win Most supported Biden to unify the party and keep Sanders out. Sanders is not a Democrat and largely regarded as the spoiler in 2016 after supporters declared they would rather vote for Drumpf than Clinton an accusation that contains much truth IMO.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/mar/02/how-can-bernie-sanders-run-democratic-primary-when/

Within the Democratic Party Sanders was also widely considered to be not electable due to his left of centre politics. In the same vein Kamala Harris was considered by many independent voters to be "too progressive" and may have hurt Joe Biden's performance at the polls yesterday, as may his pledge to slowly phase out fossil fuel and the apparent false claim he would ban fracking. Otherwise the ticket may have had a closer chance in Texas.

Personally I think that Sanders was too old and too left of centre to be electable. Likewise I wonder why the party did not have a younger more vigorous candidate than Biden. I doubt he will run again in '04 if he is elected.

can you blame them for voting for trump. i can't. in 2016 trump was saying all the right things to get elected. end the wars, take on big pharma, make america great again, etc. of course all of this was just talk. this time not so much. like who really gives a play about hunter bidens meth addiction. i would not have voted for hillary under any circumstance.

talk about a great strategy. lets alienate the young progressive vote trying to become active in the political process in the democratic party and then blame them when they jump ship. you have to earn those votes, you are not entitled to them.

sanders is to old? hes basically the same age as biden and trump. sanders policies are not far left. he would be a centrist in most countries of the world. biden is just buying time for pete buttigieg who will be the next corporate democratic candidate. alexandria ocasio cortez will be the next champion for the progressive's. she will be a power house because of how she is able to communicate with the younger generations. she was on a streaming service called twitch where young people live cast themselves playing games and socializing with each other. she had over 400,000 watching her live stream a few weeks ago.

kamala is not a progressive and if she was do you really think biden would have made her vp. no chance. she was picked by biden for identity politics purposes.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 04, 2020, 04:30:25 PM
certainly Trump, Biden and Sanders all being Septuagenarians makes me wonder about the state of leadership in that country. Certainly in the Senate there are few if any bright lights on either side. Bernie notably had a heart attack during the primary campaign. Both Pelosi (80)and McConnell (78 ) are of the same generation. Much of the trouble is such old people not retiring and making way for a new generation. No wonder politics have become so stale and reactionary!

Also please be sure to distinguish my interpretation of some US voters perception of Kamala and other candidates from how I see them. I do however think the paucity of capable leaders in the US both in politics and business is symptomatic of the country's state of decline.

Trump really did many things in reverse to what he promised not the least is the massive increase in defense spending. The entire right wing of the country simply can't feel comfortable without the world's most massive and useless arsenal of nuclear weapons... and no foe of equal significance to use them on. China in the meantime maintains only a modest retaliatory force of ICBMs and has scaled back it's naval expansion.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 07, 2020, 09:43:36 AM
Biden wins Pennsylvania and is now President Elect!

Trump reached at his Saturday exercise session reacts:

https://youtu.be/60MdyQLeq_Y?t=243

Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: DanL on November 07, 2020, 10:41:56 AM
40% of the responses are in favour of Trump? hmm....

Trump reached at his Saturday exercise session reacts:

https://youtu.be/60MdyQLeq_Y?t=243

Fake news. The real president has never moved that much in his life
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: clarki on November 07, 2020, 10:43:49 AM
Biden wins Pennsylvania and is now President Elect!

Trump reached at his Saturday exercise session reacts:

https://youtu.be/60MdyQLeq_Y?t=243
I miss the days of Robert_G, particularly when he categorically stated that Trump would win 2020 and that the COVID-19 second wave was a myth. It’s refreshing that the world is not so predictable.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 07, 2020, 11:02:51 AM
I miss the days of Robert_G, particularly when he categorically stated that Trump would win 2020 and that the COVID-19 second wave was a myth. It’s refreshing that the world is not so predictable.

He's over at FlyBC. Still predicted Trump will win in 2020. Once again, proven wrong. Guess God is not a Trump fan either ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 07, 2020, 12:50:10 PM
He's over at FlyBC. Still predicted Trump will win in 2020. Once again, proven wrong. Guess God is not a Trump fan either ;D

Sort of an irony given what he said about the Flybc moderators here. Of course like those who are carrying signs and sidearms they think it was all due to cheating and fraud. Will they ever sort this out down there? One Trump supporter I saw interviewed hosted his assault style riffle for the network TV camera and said the US is due for a 2nd civil war.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: GordJ on November 07, 2020, 01:44:07 PM
I miss the days of Robert_G,
You’re a sick motherxxxxxxxx. Do you watch Tucker Carlson just for the laughs? Wish that your teeth would rot and cause agonizing pain? Never cut your toenails and buy your shoes 2 sizes too small? Eat sesame snaps for the seeds under your plate? Undo your leaders by pulling the end before you undo all the wraps? Don’t start your outboard in the spring until you’re on the water in front of a full campground with a brisk wind blowing to shore?
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: wildmanyeah on November 07, 2020, 03:45:46 PM
I miss the days of Robert_G, particularly when he categorically stated that Trump would win 2020 and that the COVID-19 second wave was a myth. It’s refreshing that the world is not so predictable.

Yeah but despite knowing a second wave was coming nothing was done to prevent it even in Canada.

Atlest if you thought it’s a myth you would have an excuse what’s Canada’s?
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Blood_Orange on November 07, 2020, 04:38:55 PM
I miss the days of Robert_G...
Surely you don't :o It was like talking to a very hostile brick wall.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 07, 2020, 06:40:33 PM
Yeah but despite knowing a second wave was coming nothing was done to prevent it even in Canada.

Atlest if you thought it’s a myth you would have an excuse what’s Canada’s?

There was no way any country could prevent a second wave. Just a matter of controlling the spread.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 07, 2020, 06:41:47 PM
I miss the days of Robert_G, particularly when he categorically stated that Trump would win 2020 and that the COVID-19 second wave was a myth. It’s refreshing that the world is not so predictable.

He hasn't posted since his Dear Leader lost. :D
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: wildmanyeah on November 07, 2020, 07:03:45 PM
There was no way any country could prevent a second wave. Just a matter of controlling the spread.

Actually countries like China and Taiwan have prevented a second wave.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: greyghost on November 07, 2020, 07:10:25 PM
Actually countries like China and Taiwan have prevented a second wave.
So they say!!!
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: dennisK on November 07, 2020, 08:09:30 PM
There was no way any country could prevent a second wave. Just a matter of controlling the spread.

it may have helped if we stopped planes from landing from other countries. 
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 07, 2020, 08:19:01 PM
asian countries don't mess around when it comes to infectious disease's. most were wearing mask from day one.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Rodney on November 07, 2020, 08:48:35 PM
Clearly someone has never been to Taiwan lol....
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: RalphH on November 07, 2020, 11:06:18 PM
it may have helped if we stopped planes from landing from other countries.

allegedly that's why the covid rates in the US are so much lower than in Canada, 'cuz The Donald stopped the flights from China-China-China.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: dennisK on November 09, 2020, 07:24:17 AM
Trumps likely raging right now. He could have taken credit for this due to his "operation warp speed" for drug development...the election result could have been in his favour if PFE virus vaccine came out a week ago lol; Dow up 6%
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: typhoon on November 09, 2020, 09:01:03 AM
Trumps likely raging right now. He could have taken credit for this due to his "operation warp speed" for drug development...the election result could have been in his favour if PFE virus vaccine came out a week ago lol; Dow up 6%

Except Pfizer's vaccine is not part of operation warp speed (even though Pence claimed success).
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bobby b on November 09, 2020, 09:19:03 AM
Pfizer was quick to point that out too!
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: dennisK on November 09, 2020, 09:25:24 AM
Pfizer was quick to point that out too!

Do you really think the average voter would pay attention to that little detail? Really? ...the markets up on a massive way because virus vaccine secured. That is all that would have been needed by Trump;s campaign. What a difference a week makes, eh.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 09, 2020, 11:08:32 AM
Trump would take credit if the sun came up but will blame the far left when the sun sets.
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: dobrolub on November 11, 2020, 06:08:53 PM
Biden in the lead ?  :-\

Too many young voters here. ::)
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on November 26, 2020, 07:30:52 PM
alexandria ocasio cortez will be the next champion for the progressive's. she will be a power house because of how she is able to communicate with the younger generations. she was on a streaming service called twitch where young people live cast themselves playing games and socializing with each other. she had over 400,000 watching her live stream a few weeks ago.



the future of politics. smart move by jagmeet. if candidates from other parties can not connect with younger voters the righting is all on the wall for some political partys.

 https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/aoc-jagmeet-singh-to-join-forces-for-video-game-livestream-1.5206344



Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: Blood_Orange on November 28, 2020, 01:13:23 PM
the future of politics. smart move by jagmeet. if candidates from other parties can not connect with younger voters the righting is all on the wall for some political partys.

 https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/aoc-jagmeet-singh-to-join-forces-for-video-game-livestream-1.5206344
Smart move, so on-trend. Both for capitalizing on the popularity of Among Us and also doing it on Twitch. Youtube and Twitch are where it's at 8)
Title: Re: Poll: Question on the U.S. Presidential election
Post by: bigblockfox on December 03, 2020, 10:04:30 AM
o no the prophets were wrong. cant believe people believe in this stuff. good for a laugh, and yes i understand not everyone takes it this seriously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gIAtDxyTaM

the fellow who created this video and youtube channel was all in with christianity. unfortunately, like alot of kids out there he was forced by his parents to believe. his parents home schooled him so he really had no contact with the outside world except for church activities. then when he attended college, he found alternate information and could finally make his own decision's. now he has started a channel dedicated to helping people find the truth.