Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Spawn Sack on November 19, 2016, 04:20:57 PM
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Whaaaaat?! Hasn't this been discussed before ad nauseam? Yes it has; I should know as I did a search for "center pin rod" on this site and read most of the old threads. However, I figure there could be some good "new comer" rods on the market, or perhaps some rods that used to be good but are now less than desirable due to crappy changes in warranty, or whatever.
So, I have never fished a center pin before, but I bought an entry level reel the other day. I'm looking for a similarly priced entry level rod ($100ish). I figure no need to spend big bucks if I'm not even sure if I'll like/get into this. If I end up loving the pin I can always upgrade later.
I'd like the rod to be a bit on the beefier side. Say 10-20 or 12-20 line rating. 8-17lb would probably be ok too but I don't think I'd want to go any lighter than this. 10"6 to 11"6 in length. I'd like to have a bit of extra beef as when I hook a steelhead or salmon I'll likely be struggling a bit (or maybe a lot!) with hand dragging the reel. I don't need the added stress of having a rod being pushed to or past its limit. If the rod is a bit over powered for pinks/coho I don't really care. For now I plan to buy just one rod and I'd rather have a bit too much beef and not need it than need it and not have it.
Anyway, reading past threads a common recommendation was to get a CP rod where the reel seat locks up from the bottom - not the top! This makes total sense. I don't want my finger resting on threads, and I don't want to mickey-mouse it with electrical tape or whatever. If someone gave me a rod and it had the threads on top fine, but if I'm going to buy one I want them on the bottom.
I like the look of the Amundson 11"6, 10-17 line rating CP rod. Not sure what the price is though. I think the sliding reel seat is a slick idea!
http://www.amundson.ca/gfishingrods/28
Other popular entry level rods mentioned on FWR are:
Fenwick HMX 10"6
Trophy XL 10"6 8-15lb
Trophy Titan 3113
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I'm also interested in buying a center pin rod. I would also like some ideas on which local shops have a good selection of rods in various brands and price ranges. I've been using a baitcasters for years but today I went to the fishing sale in Chilliwack and bought a center pin reel from Don Campbell. I don't want to spend too much on a rod at this point because I am a total novice but I'm looking forward to learning this style of drifting.
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I have the Amundson, you can get them on sale at army and navy for around 125.
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I'm also interested in buying a center pin rod. I would also like some ideas on which local shops have a good selection of rods in various brands and price ranges. I've been using a baitcasters for years but today I went to the fishing sale in Chilliwack and bought a center pin reel from Don Campbell. I don't want to spend too much on a rod at this point because I am a total novice but I'm looking forward to learning this style of drifting.
Wow nice a Campbell reel hey? I have seen them at the fish swap before. How much are they?
I have been playing around with my no name centerpin reel. It seems totally decent! No line on it yet. I am told it is the same reel as the Raven Helix, only about 1/3 the price. My buddy has had one for years and it has held up just fine. More than good enough for me to test out and see if I like center pinning.
It is this reel, but I found a better price on it from a diff seller. $70USD shipped from china to my door :o
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Float-Reel-Center-Pin-Aluminum-SteelHead-Salmon-Trout-Fishing-Reel-Reel-Bag-/181935155069?hash=item2a5c2e277d:g:gYoAAOSwnGJWS-mQ
Which looks very, very similar to the Raven Helix...
http://www.fishusa.com/product/Raven-Helix-Centerpin-Reels
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I have the Amundson, you can get them on sale at army and navy for around 125.
Which one do you have? The 11"6 10-17lb line rated one?
How do you like the rod? Review please :)
I see this one on the Army and Navy website.
Similar to the one of the Amundson website, but this one does not have the sliding/adjustable reel seat.
http://www.armyandnavy.ca/2pc-11-6-M-M-Centerpin-Rod_p_16897.html
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I would recommend the Amundson 2116M as a good entry level pin rod . It retails $149.99 but I'm sure it goes on sale every now and then for $100 to $125 . I like the length (11'6") and it has a nice uplocking real seat . I have hooked tons of spring , chum and steelhead on this rod and it handles them all good . It is stiff enough for the bigger fish yet you still get some fight and bending action from the coho and smaller steelhead . It has a fairly sensitive tip too so you can feel the bites . I've used pretty well all entry level rods before finally upgrading to a Rainshadow and feel the Amundson is the best rod for the money with the Fenwick HMX being second .
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I have couple CP rods, Shimano technium and Rapala, that I don't use. The Rapala centerpin rod like this one is brand new. I think Army & navy currently has it on sale for $150. I can sell it for less than that.
https://rapala.ca/products/classic-float-drift
11.6 feet, 8-17lb, medium power, fast action.
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I would recommend the Amundson 2116M as a good entry level pin rod . It retails $149.99 but I'm sure it goes on sale every now and then for $100 to $125 . I like the length (11'6") and it has a nice uplocking real seat . I have hooked tons of spring , chum and steelhead on this rod and it handles them all good . It is stiff enough for the bigger fish yet you still get some fight and bending action from the coho and smaller steelhead . It has a fairly sensitive tip too so you can feel the bites . I've used pretty well all entry level rods before finally upgrading to a Rainshadow and feel the Amundson is the best rod for the money with the Fenwick HMX being second .
Sweet thanks for that. I'll take a look at it next time I'm in Langley.
I have couple CP rods, Shimano technium and Rapala, that I don't use. The Rapala centerpin rod like this one is brand new. I think Army & navy currently has it on sale for $150. I can sell it for less than that.
https://rapala.ca/products/classic-float-drift
11.6 feet, 8-17lb, medium power, fast action.
Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely keep it in mind.
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I would also recommend the Amundson 2116 pin rod. I've been using my 2 seasons now since going back to a pin setup and love it compared to ultra expensive rods. Both my main fishing buddies also fish the same rod and are extremely pleased with it. Best part for me is if I do snap it I can just go buy another.
My Amundson is the burgundy rod which I think they replaced with the current one. Mine says 2116 center pin mooching on the blank and so far I've taken everything but pinks or chinook over 30 lbs and it's handled everything very well
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Buy the Amundsen..
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I have the 11'6 Amundson, it's a great rod. The uplocking reel seat and cork is really nice. And it'd be perfect if you want a rod with a bit more backbone, especially if you're a bigger dude. I think I paid $100 for it at Army Navy.
However, I picked up a new Trophy XL Titan 2106 on craigslist and it's my go to rod for coho and steelhead. It's shorter, lighter in weight and I like the flex on it.. though i have to admit I may be undergunned in certain situations. It has a downlocking reel seat but I just wrapped the threads with badminton grip wraps and some electrical tape.
I'm keeping the Amundson as backup or if my tastes change, for that price, why not.
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I might be in minority ,but don't feel like Amundson is capable of handling springs. For that I have Sage. It is good , light rod and never feel tired when fishing it. Last year got steely on it and it felt underpowered to me. The beast pulled so hard that rod got flat past 4 inches above the cork .
For a grip imo West Coast style were reel sits higher is better than ours so my next rod will have different one.
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I also have the Amundsen kudos 8-17lbs as an entry rod as well. Its been good and fought several steelies and chinooks. The biggest down side to me for this rod is the inconvenience of added assembly for 3 piece rods but some may prefer the portability of it. The 8-17 to me is great for lower mainland rivers and if you're out all day casting for steelie in the colder winter months, you'll appreciate not having an overly heavy rod. Not unlikely to find fish in the upper teens or lower 20s but could just chase them done on the banks. I've heard Amundsen has great customer service and believe the warranty is 5 years.
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Which Lower mainland stores handle the Fenwick and Trophy center pin rods ?
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Fred's Custom Tackle in abbotsford or Berry's Bait and Tackle in Richmond
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Thanks guys. I think the 11"6 Amundson with 8-17 line rating would be adaquet.
My go-to gear rod is a Sage 2106 with 8-17 line rating. I have no problem with the exception of the biggest springs and chum. However I only fish this rod in slower moving water where I have room down river to play a hot fish.
If I know I'll be going to a spot with faster water I'll bring my 10"6 rod in 12-20 line rating, or once in a blue moon my 11"6 in 12-25 line rating. I don't really like fishing the big 11"6 meat stick as you need a bigger 400 series reel to balance the rod, and the whole set up is not that desirable for all day float fishing.
With the pin reel/rod I'll be targeting slow moving water mostly so I think this 8-17 rod we're talking about will be a good match.
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If you fish slow waters then your CP reel needs to free spool as much as possible.
If you got brand new reel remove factory grease and use light oil such as Hot Sauce instead .
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Fred's Custom Tackle in abbotsford or Berry's Bait and Tackle in Richmond
Go to Fred's excellent service!
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The actual guys working at Amundson are great also. I snapped the tip off my CP rod putting it into the back of my truck. Brought it down to the Amundson office in delta and they sold me a new top half for super cheap....
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Im not fasmiliar with the newer Trophy XL rods but if you can find one of the older brown blank rods I would highly recommend.
Great rods for the money.
Good components and very nicely finished.
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New to steelhead fishing. Got 20% off a Amundson cp combo at Army and Navy on Boxing Day. Upon further inspection found rod is SEF130L 13' 6-10 lb line. Salesman loaded the reel with 15 lb Maxima Chameleon line. Is there a any problems with a heavier line? Also is the rod capable of handling steelhead. Thanks in advance for advise.
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The rods just fine. Use 10 lb leader and your good to go!
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I would recommend the trophy cp rod for start, if anything goes wrong , break a tip you get it replaced no problem.
My boss had broke his tip while fishing in the ocean with his trophy rod, I took it to searun , it wasn't even bought there , Bryan gave me the top half of the rod for free no questions asked ...
Just saying...