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[Jace]

been reading the forums and some people say to have your weight drag across the bottom then your bait floats behind.....is that not bottom bouncing?
I have been fishing with my gear about a foot off the bottom but with the current it could rise.
so is this a effective technique? and how do you set up the weight for this?
currently i have my float then a pencil weight then a swivel, leader and my bait, plus a couple split shots....

what works best?

[Davidp]

your weight should just barley touch the bottom.... try having your pencil lead slide in stead if being crimped to the line...
 if you want your bait to float a little throw a small bead on the end of your hook..

[Jace]

How long of a leader should i be using, from the weight?

[Fish Assassin]

18-20"

[Jace]

Alright, thanks alot!

[Davidp]

i prefer 24 inches but 18-20 wrks sometimes it depends how deep the water is and how fast the current is if your fishing the vedder i use 24 and never have problems...

[kingpin]

12-14''

[Jace]

Haha now im just confused.....I will try it out and see wich works best

[vancook]

I'm new at it as well and everyone has different answers, best to just keep trying different set ups. I've been running split shot spaced out on my main and one after my swivel on my leader. I was using a short leader about 14" and now I've been running 20-24"

[Fish or cut bait.]

A shorter leader provides better placement of your presentation.
You'll know the baits basic drift based on your floats path.
With a longer leader the bait can drift up, down or side to side with the smaller currents created by the rocks and obstacles along the bottom and not be tracking the same path your float represents.
In other words your bait might track the same path in two seperate casts even though your float drifted through two different paths.
(slightly exaggerated for explanation purposes only)
That being said: clearer the water the longer the leader ( you want the fish to see the bait before they're possibly spooked by the wieght travelling behind).
Long or short they'll both work but not because of thier length but rather the water they're being drifted through.
Myself: 12-18

[younggun]

14-18", and if fishing effectively I lightly tap bottom every 5-8ft. To be honest the bead does nothing to float the presentation, seeing as beads are either have a neutral bouyancy or sink. My suggestion would be a corky or spin'nglow.

[Davidp]

I dont want to argu but iv been using a bead all the time and it works but corky does work also..

[Jace]

So im gonna e using shrimp tomorrow, and i have a small spin and glow, where should i put that?

[younggun]

tie up your leader, then slide a bead onto it, then add the spin'n glow ontop. The concept of a bead here is to add a bearing in order to allow the spin'nglow to spin freely. Then you slide prawn onto the hook.

[refrigeration86]

then 1000 casts later, and u get ur fish.