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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Suther on October 20, 2013, 02:33:30 PM

Title: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 20, 2013, 02:33:30 PM
I wanted to go hit the Stave River sometime in the next week. (I have heard about the parking issues, and have no idea where I can park but Im just going to go there and drive around a bit, see what I can find. Anyone have any pointers?)

My question is this - what is the Ruskin Spawning channel? Is this it???

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz316/mattsutherland000/ruskinspawningchannel.png) (http://s839.photobucket.com/user/mattsutherland000/media/ruskinspawningchannel.png.html)

If not, where is it?

Also, what is the terrain like? I expect to have to walk some, but I dont have waders, only some rubber boots if I need to go through some very shallow water. Is this one of those places that you really need some waders to get to the fish?
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: ninez on October 20, 2013, 02:36:18 PM
Someone got towed last or two weekends ago.

Also heard a crazy story that someone got their license plate swapped while parking there.

Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: DanJohn on October 20, 2013, 02:44:17 PM
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4036/9hpv.png)

The yellow is the spawning channel. Below that, the green is the boat launch. North of the boat launch is all spawning channel, no fishing (in that backwater off the main stem.) The orange is all open to fishing.

As far as parking goes, it gets busy. Be there before sunrise. Last weekend, sunrise was 730, and I was there at 6, and still the third vehicle. The main place to park is at Hayward and Keystone, right beside silvermere lake. Just show up at 7 in the morning, youll see all the cars.

If you want to fish the back channels, you dont need waders, but your boots will be filled with water. The main stem is easily accessed without waders. Then again, actually getting to the river, many people walk up Hayward to the Ruskin Picnic area and scoot down and into the river. Sometimes the Hydro people will let you, but I have heard of one or two people working there not letting people through.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: jazzhead on October 20, 2013, 02:47:19 PM
Towed on the east or west side of the river? 

I have parked along Hayward and Keystone, walked to the gate and to the river.  Ther guard there so far  have let me through.  It's about 15-20mins walk.   
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: ninez on October 20, 2013, 02:57:16 PM
Towed on the east or west side of the river? 

Suther, I have parked along Hayward and Keystone, walked to the gate and to the river.  There is usually a guard there but you can pass through.  It's about 15-20mins walk.  The spawning channel is between the dam and the boat ramp.  I believe there was a previous post here with googlemap picture.


west side of the river.

Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 20, 2013, 03:04:14 PM
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4036/9hpv.png)

The yellow is the spawning channel. Below that, the green is the boat launch. North of the boat launch is all spawning channel, no fishing (in that backwater off the main stem.) The orange is all open to fishing.

As far as parking goes, it gets busy. Be there before sunrise. Last weekend, sunrise was 730, and I was there at 6, and still the third vehicle. The main place to park is at Hayward and Keystone, right beside silvermere lake. Just show up at 7 in the morning, youll see all the cars.

If you want to fish the back channels, you dont need waders, but your boots will be filled with water. The main stem is easily accessed without waders. Then again, actually getting to the river, many people walk up Hayward to the Ruskin Picnic area and scoot down and into the river. Sometimes the Hydro people will let you, but I have heard of one or two people working there not letting people through.

Okay perfect. Thanks for that info.

I was planning on going mid-week, maybe thursday, but it wouldn't be until later on - maybe 1pm? I have school in the morning. If I get my reel in the mail tuesday, I might be able to get out Wednesday morning, but Im not a morning person (I know, being a fisherman means being a morning person, they just go hand-in-hand...) Would parking be a hard thing to find at that time?
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: ninez on October 20, 2013, 03:14:56 PM
Okay perfect. Thanks for that info.

I was planning on going mid-week, maybe thursday, but it wouldn't be until later on - maybe 1pm? I have school in the morning. If I get my reel in the mail tuesday, I might be able to get out Wednesday morning, but Im not a morning person (I know, being a fisherman means being a morning person, they just go hand-in-hand...) Would parking be a hard thing to find at that time?

Not getting there early just means more walking. 
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 20, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
Im coming from Port Moody... Best way to get there would be down Lougheed to 287 and just follow that up til it turns into wilson and keep going til I find parking?

Also, can someone verify about access to the orange part - do you have to walk from Wilson all the way over there?
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: ninez on October 20, 2013, 04:28:27 PM
Im coming from Port Moody... Best way to get there would be down Lougheed to 287 and just follow that up til it turns into wilson and keep going til I find parking?

Also, can someone verify about access to the orange part - do you have to walk from Wilson all the way over there?

Hayward and keystone?  as mention above (reply #2)?
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: jazzhead on October 20, 2013, 04:36:59 PM
287 and Wilson is the West side of the river where you can get towed away. 

To get to the east side, continue on Lougheed pass the bridge (you can see silvermere lake on your left) and turn in at Hayward after you pass the lake.  You will reach a sign that says road is closed right before a sharp turn into Keystone.  You should see cars parked along the road.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 20, 2013, 05:11:09 PM
The internet tells me about a parking lot on Wilson past the dam? Or is this really far?  I don't know the river at all,  so I really don't know where to go per say
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Humpy on October 20, 2013, 05:30:30 PM
Stick to the east side, park on Hayward Street, walk through the swamp to get to the river, or if they allow you too, walk through the construction area close to the dam.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: ninez on October 20, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
The internet tells me about a parking lot on Wilson past the dam? Or is this really far?  I don't know the river at all,  so I really don't know where to go per say

The dam is under construction.
The parking lot is closed for the construction equipment (I think I read about that somewhere).
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 20, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
The dam is under construction.
The parking lot is closed for the construction equipment (I think I read about that somewhere).

There is another temporary parking lot just north of the closed one.  That's what bc hydro website says at least.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 20, 2013, 05:38:30 PM
Stick to the east side, park on Hayward Street, walk through the swamp to get to the river, or if they allow you too, walk through the construction area close to the dam.

From what I read on the bc hydro site it's closed except local traffic,  and there's no parking there either?
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: jazzhead on October 20, 2013, 06:01:11 PM
Stick to the east side, park on Hayward Street, walk through the swamp to get to the river, or if they allow you too, walk through the construction area close to the dam.

Stick to Humpy's advice or you might get your car towed away if you park on Wilson.  You can park along Hayward on the section before Keystone Ave and walk up on Hayward.  Only the section of Hayward northward after Keystone is no parking zone.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Humpy on October 20, 2013, 06:04:29 PM
Stick to Humpy's advice or you might get your car towed away if you park on Wilson.  You can park along Hayward on the section before Keystone Ave and walk up on Hayward.  Only the section of Hayward northward after Keystone is no parking zone.
Sorry for not being more specific, but like jazzhead said, a part of Hayward is open, its fairly easy to get to the river, just follow somebody in, and sometimes they let you walk through the construction site, when I was there they said no, but some people do get through. Bear spray is always a good idea.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: ninez on October 20, 2013, 06:22:16 PM
I have never been to the east side of the river.
I parked on Wilson and walk.

It helps if you have a 4x4 or truck so you can park on Wilson (road shoulder) between the trailer park (Ruskin Place) and triple creek estate.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Humpy on October 20, 2013, 06:24:19 PM
And most people suggest the east side is better, although I've only been to the east side.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: leadbelly on October 20, 2013, 06:28:07 PM
Looking from the highway bridge up the Stave today, not one fish rising, no waves of chum, nothing, poor season for chum.
Great season for anglers, I have never seen so many vehicles parked.
I'm wondering why the propensity for littering and parking a foot onto the pavement on a narrow dark windy road? I don't understand this behavior at all. Please at least take your garbage with you.
Rant over.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Humpy on October 20, 2013, 06:59:52 PM
Its still quite early for chum, and considering they will most likely be a little late like most species of salmon this season, there should be lots of chum. Lots of chum in the fraser now.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: ninez on October 20, 2013, 07:10:43 PM
And most people suggest the east side is better, although I've only been to the east side.

Yes.. east side is better.  I can see lots of chum on the east side from the west side.

Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Rantalot on October 20, 2013, 08:50:50 PM
Since when is the back channel no fishing? I know from the boat to the dam is closed but when did the back channel become no fishing? Its perfect water for coho in the deeper pockets.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Sandman on October 20, 2013, 09:28:17 PM
Since when is the back channel no fishing? I know from the boat to the dam is closed but when did the back channel become no fishing? Its perfect water for coho in the deeper pockets.

It IS open.  It is just the channel from the dam down to the ramp that is closed.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: grumpy on October 20, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
hayward and keystone
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 21, 2013, 08:18:01 AM
http://www.bchydro.com/energy-in-bc/projects/ruskin_dam_powerhouse_upgrade.html?WT.mc_id=rd_ruskin

If you scroll down on that page, it talks about all the closures.
"The Lower Railway Parking Lot, northwest of Ruskin Dam, will be closed. The interim Upper Railway Parking Lot, located further up Wilson Street, will be available and provides access for trail and beach users."

Farther down, it links to a PDF that shows a map of whats closed.

Can anyone comment on the walking distance required to reach fishable waters from that parking lot? I would be limited to the west side, which doesn't seem to be very good fishing compared to the east?
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: ninez on October 21, 2013, 09:10:08 AM
http://www.bchydro.com/energy-in-bc/projects/ruskin_dam_powerhouse_upgrade.html?WT.mc_id=rd_ruskin

If you scroll down on that page, it talks about all the closures.
"The Lower Railway Parking Lot, northwest of Ruskin Dam, will be closed. The interim Upper Railway Parking Lot, located further up Wilson Street, will be available and provides access for trail and beach users."

Farther down, it links to a PDF that shows a map of whats closed.

Can anyone comment on the walking distance required to reach fishable waters from that parking lot? I would be limited to the west side, which doesn't seem to be very good fishing compared to the east?

The whole stretch of the river is short not like the Chilliwack River.
It's not long.
http://www.riverfishingbc.com/article5.php
There's not gonna be a lot of walking unless you park downstream and want to fish upstream.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: typhoon on October 21, 2013, 09:33:36 AM
http://www.bchydro.com/energy-in-bc/projects/ruskin_dam_powerhouse_upgrade.html?WT.mc_id=rd_ruskin

If you scroll down on that page, it talks about all the closures.
"The Lower Railway Parking Lot, northwest of Ruskin Dam, will be closed. The interim Upper Railway Parking Lot, located further up Wilson Street, will be available and provides access for trail and beach users."

Farther down, it links to a PDF that shows a map of whats closed.

Can anyone comment on the walking distance required to reach fishable waters from that parking lot? I would be limited to the west side, which doesn't seem to be very good fishing compared to the east?
This map is old. There are no parking signs down the length of the east side of 287th st. There is also a single no parking sign with arrows in both directions just below the trailer park on the west side. People are parking along the road shoulder - some of them on the road shoulder and many of them are getting towed.
I don't know the state of the green parking lots above the dam.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 21, 2013, 12:27:24 PM
I know there is no street parking down Wilson,  that's why I ask about the parking lot. How far past the dam would I have to walk to get to the river?  I assume that right at the dam access is blocked so I would have to walk down Wilson some. . ?
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: HOOK on October 21, 2013, 02:16:12 PM
Since when is the back channel no fishing? I know from the boat to the dam is closed but when did the back channel become no fishing? Its perfect water for coho in the deeper pockets.


I also had thought they closed the entire back channel a couple years back. I used to hunt the coho back there armed with my fly rod and dry line with lightly weighted flies and could do quite well. Only other areas I really would fish is the toilet bowl and a mud bar area but always with a fly rod.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: DRP79 on October 22, 2013, 09:36:22 AM
There were people breaking windows and looting cars on Hayward yesterday.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 22, 2013, 10:15:26 AM
There were people breaking windows and looting cars on Hayward yesterday.

Well isn't that just fantastic. Makes you want to leave the car unlocked with a window half open so they can get in,  see I'm not dumb enough to leave valuables in there and go into the next car...
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 22, 2013, 10:19:28 AM
Well isn't that just fantastic. Makes you want to leave the car unlocked with a window half open so they can get in,  see I'm not dumb enough to leave valuables in there and go into the next car...

They'll break the windows to spite you for not keeping any valuables in the car. Damn TDM's
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: DRP79 on October 22, 2013, 10:41:31 AM
Well isn't that just fantastic. Makes you want to leave the car unlocked with a window half open so they can get in,  see I'm not dumb enough to leave valuables in there and go into the next car...

My car is always unlocked. It was someone I know who learned that lesson the hard way. Im just spreading the word that they are targeting this area.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: leadbelly on October 22, 2013, 02:13:10 PM
the other day I parked behind a small hatchback, they had left a nice rod with an Islander reel, or at least an Islander reel cover, sitting on top of everything, on display.
This seemed risky to me.
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Suther on October 22, 2013, 03:43:24 PM
the other day I parked behind a small hatchback, they had left a nice rod with an Islander reel, or at least an Islander reel cover, sitting on top of everything, on display.
This seemed risky to me.

Risky is one way to put it.

Absolutely stupid is another...
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 22, 2013, 04:19:35 PM
the other day I parked behind a small hatchback, they had left a nice rod with an Islander reel, or at least an Islander reel cover, sitting on top of everything, on display.
This seemed risky to me.

Bait car ?
Title: Re: Stave River - Ruskin Spawning channel?
Post by: leadbelly on October 22, 2013, 04:41:12 PM
Lol I think he was using jigs  ;D