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Title: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: arimaBOATER on August 21, 2011, 12:34:28 AM
Just caught the "tail end" of some report..about the need for the gov. to test our salmon.
According to this person we should not just blindly be buying & eating salmon or marine life as there is a valid need to do radiation testing on our fish because of the nuclear plant breakdown(s) in JAPAN.

There was ALOT OF THIS CRAP going into the waters...& currents must have delivered this nuclear stuff all over the Pacific.
That salmon may look & taste good BUT it's the invisible stuff that MAY be present that concerns me... :o
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: Kenwee on August 21, 2011, 05:21:51 AM
Is there a device one could buy to do these tests? Perhaps someone here may know of such a device.
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: brysonk on August 21, 2011, 09:26:48 AM
Is there a device one could buy to do these tests? Perhaps someone here may know of such a device.
I don't know of any devices that can detect radiation. but I hear if your stick your tongue on the fishes skin and hold it there for 30 secs, when you pull it off if it turns green then don't eat it. Try it and let us know how it turns out.  ::)
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: Sandman on August 21, 2011, 10:11:48 AM
While they are conducting these tests as a precaution, they are not expecting to find radiations above acceptable levels (you will likely absorb more AF radiation from your cell phone and microwave oven, and a lot more in X-rays if you have been to the dentist or doctor recently).
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: Kype on August 21, 2011, 10:12:58 AM
Always good to start Sunday morning with a hearty laugh  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: silver ghost on August 21, 2011, 10:22:49 AM
Ya, I was wondering this as well around the time it was all over the news. The fish travel great distances to feed and no one really knows for sure where they go to feed exactly. Radiation is absorbed into small plankton and baitfish and there is no doubt all or any o these factors may cross paths with the salmon. Radiation doesn't go away either...it stays put and has a half life of 100+ years...I wonder if our fish IS safe to eat?
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: silver ghost on August 21, 2011, 10:24:46 AM
It will also be of interest tO note if the rate of mutations of the alevin/fry goes up over the next few years, already we see quite a few from coho fry, but maybe this will increase!?
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: cutthroat22 on August 21, 2011, 11:05:46 AM
I'd eat a three eyed sockeye over a farmed Atlantic.
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: purplehelmet on August 21, 2011, 11:58:40 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: Dbasche on August 21, 2011, 09:04:10 PM
You can buy a Gigercounter online. They detect all typs of radiation. They can be quiet costly though! After Japan happened my mother went all crazy saying we need one so we bought on over ebay and have never since used it haha.
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: lude98r on August 21, 2011, 09:25:31 PM
You can buy a Gigercounter online. They detect all typs of radiation. They can be quiet costly though! After Japan happened my mother went all crazy saying we need one so we bought on over ebay and have never since used it haha.

You could pimp out your machine at the river $10 per catch :-\
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: DionJL on August 21, 2011, 09:44:00 PM
Always good to start Sunday morning with a hearty laugh  ;D :D ;D

Agreed.

Gieger Counters are used to measure Ionizing radiation. I have a few at work because I work with nuclear gauges. They are about $500 and hard to get a hold of because most are getting sent to Japan.

As for testing our fish for radiation I think it's just another crock of paranoid propaganda being perpetuated by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

Radiation doesn't go away either...it stays put and has a half life of 100+ years...I wonder if our fish IS safe to eat?

It doesn't go away? What are you talking about. The definition of a nuclear material is something at decays by releasing sub-atomic particles until there is nothing left. What material is it that has a half life of 100yrs?
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 21, 2011, 10:08:22 PM
Don't eat it if it glows
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: arimaBOATER on August 22, 2011, 03:04:09 AM
Wonder why in England they test the veal (sheep meat) for radiation...as they know alot of nuclear "crap" landed in England & went into the soil..........ya know after that big nuclear plant had a "break-down".........
gues we can "laugh it off" as we all know we are going to DIE one way or another" phy. death that is ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: Dbasche on August 22, 2011, 11:08:29 AM
Yeah they are pretty careful with this kind of stuff. After chernoble happened in 86 they are still testing foods that come from that region for radioactivity in Germany now a days. I agree with that I'd rather be to cautios than to little. Thinking about all the things a radio active infection can do to you I'd rather test it before eating it!
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: milo on August 22, 2011, 11:14:42 AM
Just got back from Ucluelet with 150 pounds of spring, coho and halibut fillets.
No sockeye for me.  :D
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: katfish on August 23, 2011, 06:34:18 PM
You get more radiation from eating a bananna.  Fear mongers suck.
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: blueback on September 22, 2011, 10:37:14 PM
You get more radiation from eating a bananna.  Fear mongers suck.

Really?? And if fear mongers suck then I assume you include media outlets and politicians  :D

We eat lots of salmon, and I was thinking about this the other day so I looked it up and found that News 1130 reported that CFIA was testing sox for radiation and that the data was on the CFIA website. I couldn't find it though. Anybody have any (actual) knowledge of this??   
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: Easywater on September 23, 2011, 11:05:12 AM
We eat lots of salmon, and I was thinking about this the other day so I looked it up and found that News 1130 reported that CFIA was testing sox for radiation and that the data was on the CFIA website. I couldn't find it though. Anybody have any (actual) knowledge of this??    

Didn't see anything on the CFIA website - just more comments in the media:

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Salmon+tested+traces+radiation+from+nuclear+disaster+Japan/5285218/story.html
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: StillAqua on September 25, 2011, 08:45:34 PM
We eat lots of salmon, and I was thinking about this the other day so I looked it up and found that News 1130 reported that CFIA was testing sox for radiation and that the data was on the CFIA website. I couldn't find it though. Anybody have any (actual) knowledge of this??   

The CFIA data is here:  http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/imp/eartere.shtml (http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/imp/eartere.shtml)
Radioactive iodine and cesium are the two radioactive elements of real concern for getting through the food chain and into your body but CFIA hasn't detected anything yet. Iodine decays away very fast (8 day half life) so we'll never see it in our fish (they aren't even detecting much in Japan). Cesium sticks around though so we might eventually see a little in our food chain but you have to remember that it's all being diluted in the vast Pacific ocean and atmosphere so that they might eventually be able to detect it in our food, but it won't be anything close to a health risk. But that wouldn't make a very good media story would it?
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: blueback on September 26, 2011, 12:31:52 PM
Thanks StillAqua!! Just what I was looking for. Bon Appetite  ;D
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: marmot on September 29, 2011, 04:56:40 PM
The CFIA data is here:  http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/imp/eartere.shtml (http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/imp/eartere.shtml)
Radioactive iodine and cesium are the two radioactive elements of real concern for getting through the food chain and into your body but CFIA hasn't detected anything yet. Iodine decays away very fast (8 day half life) so we'll never see it in our fish (they aren't even detecting much in Japan). Cesium sticks around though so we might eventually see a little in our food chain but you have to remember that it's all being diluted in the vast Pacific ocean and atmosphere so that they might eventually be able to detect it in our food, but it won't be anything close to a health risk. But that wouldn't make a very good media story would it?

I'm not worried about radiation in the fish...

however, they did TWO samples for each fish species... TWO!  I shouldn't have to tell people as far as sample sizes go, that is ridiculously inadequate to come to any sort of conclusion.
Title: Re: Heard a report that we should be testing the salmon for radiation !!!
Post by: StillAqua on September 30, 2011, 09:47:01 AM
however, they did TWO samples for each fish species... TWO!  I shouldn't have to tell people as far as sample sizes go, that is ridiculously inadequate to come to any sort of conclusion.
Sample numbers are small I suspect because CFIA is just going through the motions right now for the public face. August was only 5 months since the quake/tsunami, less since the reactors went critical, and not enough time for cesium to get into mature fish through the marine foodchain. But they have to appear to be looking....