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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: hrenya on January 17, 2016, 11:21:15 AM

Title: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 17, 2016, 11:21:15 AM
I have so many people pm`ed me about herring fishing , so I decided to share my knowledge here :
1) you must know how to tie bloodknot (a must)
2) you need to improvise with "flasher" (usually added at the bottom before weight or above)
3) need to have ul gear
4) must be ready for "combat" fishing

you will need a herring jig (usually 5-6 hooks) I prefer 6 hooks ones , I cut them at 3 pieces and I can get 3 setups from 1 jig ... berry`s sells them at 2.99-4.99 I would recommend mustad ones .

pretty much  setup is kinda looks like bar rig , 2 hooks + weight at the bottom ... I use 1oz betty  . difference is - you need to cast and retrieve , or you can use jigging knowledge . some  people jigging up-down , I prefer sideways :D

from my experience , prime time is high tide/first light +-1hour (if no wind , or around 5kmh , its PRIME time )

catching herring is harder than catching pinks :) so you should be ready for casting for a couple hours non stop

I hope this will help , feel free to pm me if you have more questions
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: TimL on January 17, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Come on it's just herring..how hard can it get?  ;) :P
Did you check with dfo about regs?
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 17, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Come on it's just herring..how hard can it get?  ;) :P
Did you check with dfo about regs?
almost . I tried to call 2-3 times before 4 pm - noanswer
3/4 people I asked , were same - 2h only

should be short day for me tmrw , I`ll stop by
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: eddy on January 17, 2016, 03:53:56 PM
Get off of fishing sites.
And
GO FISHING! 😆
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: TimL on January 17, 2016, 06:23:48 PM
Herring jig pics..courtesy of hrenya :D

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1648/24449813825_5499a06bdc_z.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1466/24154202680_be7cc300fb_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 17, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
ty tim for helping me out :)
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 17, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
so gents as you can see from tim`s pics - we are using simple bar rig (weight at the bottom and 2 hooks above) , only diferense is leaders are about 5-6 inches
weight is about 1 oz , im using betty cuz less snags

Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: islanddude on January 17, 2016, 08:28:12 PM
If you can find herring jigs made in Japan they are the primo jig.
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: 243Pete on January 17, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
That flasher looks like it was made out of one of those L and N car decals.  ;D
Good looking setup rig, gonna have to borrow that idea for a flasher now.
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 18, 2016, 02:02:23 AM
That flasher looks like it was made out of one of those L and N car decals.  ;D
Good looking setup rig, gonna have to borrow that idea for a flasher now.
go for it :D
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 18, 2016, 02:03:36 AM
also flasher/wobbler can be used as well at the bottom (above the weight) or above hooks , or both :)) depends on what you prefer  , ill ask Tim to post few more pics of flashers (home made) tmrw :) 1 thing I notice for sure , if you want to use it below weight - shape doesn't matter , but if you want to use it above - u can see on mine it has its corner cut , so I can cast further , if you want to use both I would recommend a heavier one at the bottom and less weight :) the only other thing you need to pay attention is how you tie it . my bud got 3-4 snapons on his rig and every 2/3 casts his flasher getting tangled around main line , I prefer to  tie it directly to main line with just a swivel :)
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 18, 2016, 02:10:12 AM
If you can find herring jigs made in Japan they are the primo jig.
hook me up with couple :D

btw not sure about japanesse  , but my bud asked his kids and they bought some jigs from states for him , I cant tell you what brand are those , but they look pretty similar to mustad ones I posted above , greenish patern and they do look godly :) he hooked me up with 1 set , but on my 2 trip it was gone :D you can see it on a pic above :)
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 18, 2016, 02:56:49 PM
just double checked with DFO , tidal fraser exception , 2 hooks barbless only as I thought , and belcarra as many as you want .
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: SilverChaser on January 18, 2016, 04:27:08 PM
This seems really fun and interesting. What kind of meals do FWR members prefer done with Herring? What is the retention limit on Herring?
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: dufflayer on January 18, 2016, 04:35:52 PM
Where exactly is the blood knot needed?
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 18, 2016, 04:44:25 PM
Where exactly is the blood knot needed?
easy , Tim said he will help me out with publishing few more pics ....  just chill ... :) he is working right now ...
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 18, 2016, 04:45:37 PM
This seems really fun and interesting. What kind of meals do FWR members prefer done with Herring? What is the retention limit on Herring?
me prefer pickled , limit is 20 kgs per day :)
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: TimL on January 18, 2016, 08:48:24 PM
just double checked with DFO , tidal fraser exception , 2 hooks barbless only as I thought , and belcarra as many as you want .
Remember..single hook for surfperch!  :D  :P

Photos as promised:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1653/23845372194_d078dc338f_z.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1627/24105806299_7965ef30e4_z.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1546/24447381596_1526cf1ab5_z.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1453/24391171531_d1124767ec_z.jpg)

May be helpful to point out where the blood knot is b/c I can't see it.
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: TimL on January 18, 2016, 09:01:30 PM
I had mine cooked up fresh on the same day..fins and head off, scaled, then butterflied..lightly seasoned and coated with flour before deep frying until crispy. I try to remove most of the bones from fillets but it's not necessary- the bones are edible when cooked (like smelt).   From what I've read pickling does help firm up the meat a bit..maybe I'll do that to my next batch..now searching for a good pickling recipe.
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 19, 2016, 06:09:19 AM
on the last picture u can clearly see it , its on the fist kink from left and on the last section couple inches below hook .
the problem is 6 hooks jigs and spacing between hooks about 7-8 inches :) so if too lazy u can avoid bloodknot by making only 2 setups by cutting right against 2 middle hooks on both sides :) or you can caut it between the hooks and use bloodknot to extend line , im pretty sure that last picture is middle section .
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: Damien on January 19, 2016, 10:34:22 AM
When fishing for bait we use an umbrella rig.  Super easy to use, doesn't tangle.  Casts easily, has built in flash.  No jerry rigging.

I bet you will be the talk of the dock if you bust one of these out and start slaying along side the 'oldtimers' out there.  They won't know what them.

(https://basspro.scene7.com/is/image/BassPro/1939943_1206280436379?defaultImage=noimage_avail&&resmode=sharp2&op_usm=1.5,.8,1.5&id=VAfbj1&wid=400&hei=280&fmt=jpg)

There are a lot of names, sizes and styles for them, like Alabama Rig, Tennesee Rig etc.  Have a look around, they are dynamite when used legally of course.



Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: Damien on January 19, 2016, 10:37:23 AM
(http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/graphics/product_images/pDSP1-13286779p275w.jpg)

Yumbrella Ultralight Tripod
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: Noahs Arc on January 19, 2016, 11:07:54 AM
I've seen those umbrella rigs used for bass on TV before.
Looks like a small dog jumped in when it hits the water.
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: Damien on January 19, 2016, 11:13:42 AM
Yeah, some of them when loaded up with big heavy swim baits can cause a ruckus.  There are very small ultralight ones used for panfish like bluegill and crappie etc. that are what I was getting at for herring.
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: hrenya on January 20, 2016, 02:42:03 AM
I`ve seen those used for bass :) but as I mentioned above only 2 hooks at fraser and this setup looks like more complicated
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: KarateKick on January 29, 2016, 09:23:35 PM
How far do the herring swim up the tidal Fraser? I've always thought you'd have to go down to Steveston to catch them.
Title: Re: Tidal Fraser herring
Post by: slava on January 30, 2016, 03:18:23 PM
Up to N3 Rd.