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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on November 20, 2004, 02:43:45 AM

Title: Street justice?
Post by: Rodney on November 20, 2004, 02:43:45 AM
So my brother just returned home after spending a few hours in the hospital tonight. While driving early this evening, he apparently cut someone off by mistake. The driver who was cut off got out of the car and approached my brother's at the traffic lights, and proceeded to punched him in the face after exchanging a few words. The driver then fled before my brother could compose himself to record the license plate number.

For those of you who have stated taking the law into your own hands to right the wrongs, think again. Those who you decide to lay street justice on are someone's friends and family. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Long_Cast on November 20, 2004, 05:32:40 AM
Sorry to hear what happened to your brother.  I had a similar incident with a psycho loser about over a year ago.  I was driving eastbound on Kingsway on my way home from UBC and a Ford Mustang going over 100kph almost rear ended my car.  It was definately his fault and he threatened to kill me.  Well, from my own instincts, I didn't say a single word back to him. I didn't even turn my head to look at his face, just my eyes. I was really worried that he might have a gun in his car and he would pull the trigger at me. In my opinion, your brother should never have rolled down the windows completely to an unknown stranger who might act dangerously. Though, he did the right thing by taking down the license plate number.



Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: keithr on November 20, 2004, 06:12:00 AM
Let's not confuse road rage and "street justice" with standing up and defending what's right.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Long_Cast on November 20, 2004, 06:38:25 AM
Violence directed towards other drivers is definately not right.  I hate it when I see road rage.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on November 20, 2004, 07:10:51 AM
Thats totally not cool. I am sorry your brother had to go through that. If the guy was upset at your brother all he had to do was talk to him and maybe get an apology but violence isnt the answer.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Muddler on November 20, 2004, 09:56:54 AM
My personal favorite is the irate cyclist. Now I have no problems with cyclists, in fact I have a few friends who ride their bikes everywhere. The ones I have a problem with are the ones who think they own the road the ones that try to compete with cars and insist on driving slower than the vehicles.

Rod sorry to hear about your brother, I hope he's okay. The guy that did this to him will get out of his car and snap on the wrong person, its just a matter of time.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: reach on November 20, 2004, 10:28:31 AM
I once got into a bit of a road rage challenge from the gaglardi exit all the way until Harris road in pitt meadows.  This goof in a VW didn't see my turn singnal and tried to side swipe me.  After the 140KPH cat and mouse along the highway, we got to a red light and he sure looked worried when a big guy in dark glasses chomping on a big fat cigar stared him down and followed him for a bit.   ;D ;D 

Fulcrum, you are part of the problem.  There is no way anything anybody else does should cause you to drive 140 km/h on the highway.  I'm all for speeding on wide open highways with good visibility, but if there's traffic ("cat and mouse") that's just wrong.

If somebody does something stupid on you, just shake your head and go your own way.  Getting into any kind of pissing contest just encourages more aggressive driving.

IMHO
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Fishin Freak on November 20, 2004, 11:22:18 AM
For those of you who have stated taking the law into your own hands to right the wrongs, think again. Those who you decide to lay street justice on are someone's friends and family. Pathetic.

Sorry to here about your brother Rod. I would take justice into my own hands however if I saw someone breaking into my car as i've had enough of thieves as I have a 0% tolerance for them.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 20, 2004, 01:18:49 PM
Sorry about your brother Rod. Hope he's OK.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Rodney on November 20, 2004, 01:38:41 PM
Let's not confuse road rage and "street justice" with standing up and defending what's right.


Good point Keith, someone else brought this up on the other post too: http://forum.fishbc.com/index.php?showtopic=14608 and he put it together pretty nicely. I buy. :) But I still believe under certain situations, it's best to let the boys and gals in the uniform to deal with it than taking it into your own hands.

My personal favorite is the irate cyclist. Now I have no problems with cyclists, in fact I have a few friends who ride their bikes everywhere. The ones I have a problem with are the ones who think they own the road the ones that try to compete with cars and insist on driving slower than the vehicles.

Hey Muddler, I agree. Being someone who used to be on the road with a bike 20 hours per week, I must say some cyclists should not be on the road. There is a couple of courses at Cycling BC www.cycling.bc.ca that people can take to learn how to ride in traffic etc. I highly recommend it. The respect has to come from both sides though. Many cyclists need to slow down on the road and avoid blocking up traffic. Motorists need to give cyclists a bit more room at times to provide that comfort zone.

Anyways, bro's fine, should recover in a few days. The black eye can probably attract more chicks now. ::) ;)
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: aquaboy24 on November 20, 2004, 01:57:56 PM
I hate road ragers...and I tend to find that a high majority of them drive German cars. Its seems Audi, Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes tell their customers that now they have a German car, they are more important than everyone else. That they can drive faster and do crazier stuff.

One must also consider the sadly lacking infastructure of this city. I can't even believe we are still pondering the RAV line to the airport. This city's rapid transit is so far behind its a joke. And it all piles up in the traffic sector.

Rod, I agree...no street justice, but I do maintain that it is legally important for a person to defend himself.

Next time some one appraches you aggresively while you are in the driver's seat, remember...your door makes an excellent weapon. ;)
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: keithr on November 20, 2004, 02:48:51 PM
Road rage:  if somebody does something dumb in traffic and I have to take evasive action, like braking hard, I try to remind myself, "well, he's already screwed you over once; don't go letting him mess with your mind as well."  And I go on about my business and figure that guy will get paid back somewhere down the line.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Rodney on November 20, 2004, 03:28:44 PM
a high majority of them drive German cars. Its seems Audi, Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes tell their customers that now they have a German car, they are more important than everyone else.

That's because you're in North Vancouver... Come to Richmond, it's Honda city. ;)

Totally agree with the public transport system too.... We are so dependent on cars here. You've lived in Europe, and see how much more advanced they are. ;)
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: BIG T on November 20, 2004, 04:42:18 PM
hi rod,soory to hear that about your brother,did he got the licence plate number ??
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: leaping steely on November 20, 2004, 04:46:11 PM
hi rod,soory to hear that about your brother,did he got the licence plate number ??

Here's your answer.

The driver then fled before my brother could compose himself to record the license plate number.



Sorry to hear about your brother Rodney. I hope he gets better soon.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Long_Cast on November 20, 2004, 07:53:57 PM
I find that those who drive big cars like to harass people who drive smaller cars. Do you ever see drivers of small hatchbacks/sedans harassing drivers of SUVs? It's usually the other way around.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: milo on November 21, 2004, 01:13:19 PM
Sorry to hear about your brother, Rodney. I hope he's recovering well.
All I can say is that the bastard that attacked him will get some of his own medicine in due time. One day it will happen, he'll just charge the wrong guy.
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: dennisK on November 22, 2004, 07:28:25 AM
The driver who was cut off got out of the car and approached my brother's at the traffic lights, and proceeded to punched him in the face after exchanging a few words.

How did he get to your brother to physically even touch him - was his car window open/convertible car?

(sorry if this was answered).
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: The Gilly on November 22, 2004, 08:57:04 AM
I'v had it with bad drivers.  We all make mistakes, but some drivers are just bad.  I drive 50-60,000 km every year all over BC.  I have a note pad on my window and I record the licence # and desription of every A** H*** that is driving recklessly and I call 911 to report them.  I've been able to do this 4 times this year and it resulted in 2 warnings and 2 fines to the poor drivers.  One near Chase, one at 70 Mile House, one on Como Lake Ave. in Coquitlam and one on Friday on Hwy #1 in Abbotsford.  The guy in Abbotsford was crossing the shoulder and centre lines.  His driving appeared drunk at 9AM.   I've got a wife and 2 kids that I like to get home to at the end of my day.  I'd like to get home in one piece.  If I see someone driving recklessly, I call them in.  Everyone should do it.  Driving would be alot nicer if we did. 

p.s. The police never want you to follow the other car.  Just report the details.  They'll ask for you name and phone # and that's it. 
Title: Re: Street justice?
Post by: Terry Bodman on November 22, 2004, 09:05:42 AM
The matter of anger applies to more than driving in congested areas. I've personally witnessed this kind of rage on the dikes at the Vedder River. There are some people out there terribly angry about something. To put these inexcusable incidents in context, take the lowest digit on the "ragers" licence plate. That's his/her I.Q.