Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Damien on November 17, 2011, 10:39:06 AM
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Hey there.
Say, down to -5 or so. Would 5mm neoprene waders (boot foot with doubled up wool socks) with an underarmour cold gear baselayer, followed by jogging pants under the waders be sufficient in the cold for the lower half?
I dread to think about being too cold or too hot after hiking a long ways away from my car to explore.
I want to be able to leave my car and head out without freezing or boiling and having to come back to the car to add or remove layers.
I know that one person's cold is anothers warm, but in general, do you think I would be okay for most conditions with above noted configuration?
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switch the jogging pants with fleece and you should be fine.
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if you feel yourself getting cold just keep moving. If you stand in one spot all day it doesn't matter what your wearing you're going to get cold.
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if you feel yourself getting cold just keep moving. If you stand in one spot all day it doesn't matter what your wearing you're going to get cold.
This!
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And buy those hand warmer hot packs, they do come in handy. You can also put them on your feet.
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I usually double up on everything from socks,long johns/jogging pants,hoody/jacket and a nice pair of gloves as I'm wearing breathables
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I NEVER wear double layers,really,I have breathable waders wool socks,fleece underpants,fleece tight to my upper body and my hoodie with my gortex jacket over top,fleece gloves and a touge, if you move,which you do when you stealhead,i been out there in -21 and made it alive lol.
Standing in one spot on the other hand especially in the water,there is nothing out there that will keep you warm,maybe electric socks if there is any lol
best part is when you get some chrome,and you tail it and get wet up your elbows that sucks a little later
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Hey there.
Say, down to -5 or so. Would 5mm neoprene waders (boot foot with doubled up wool socks) with an underarmour cold gear baselayer, followed by jogging pants under the waders be sufficient in the cold for the lower half?
I dread to think about being too cold or too hot after hiking a long ways away from my car to explore.
I want to be able to leave my car and head out without freezing or boiling and having to come back to the car to add or remove layers.
I know that one person's cold is anothers warm, but in general, do you think I would be okay for most conditions with above noted configuration?
Boot foot waders are warmer than stocking foot waders. Under your neoprenes you need something that can manage sweat. I'd suggest microfleece, seems to wick better than anything else. Goretex allows the evaporation of humidity which prevents sweat from cooling you down, so breathables will ultimately keep you warmer. I use a moisture wicking sock under a wool sock. On top, merino wool baselayer, then a grey Stanfield wool sweater, then a soft shell and a Goretex jacket over everything. The rain jacket stays on regardless of the weather to prevent getting wet if I slip.
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i been out there in -21 and made it alive lol.
:o :o :o
You can have all the fish of all the rivers in the world at -21.
I'd rather stay home with a glass of brandy in my hand.
Steelheading at -21...(some dudes are hard core, really) ::)
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If you move around a lot temperatures down to -5 or so really aren't an issue. I personally find it more of a challenge keeping warm trout fishing in May/early June than winter river fishing. Long underwear and thermal socks go a long way.
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Isn't -21 ice fishing ? :)
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We cought a stealhead that day too,my buddy got a six pound wild doe ;D
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--trolling on Okanagan lk for the 10 lb plus winter rainbows.. bucktail fly's and plugs
--Oh yah... heated cab on the boat.
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switch the jogging pants with fleece and you should be fine.
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The worst thing you can wear is cotton. Switch out the jogging pants for fleece and don't wear cotton hoodies. Cotton doesn't retain heat when wet (either from sweat or rain) and when it gets wet it will start to pull heat away from your body. You can get away with a lot less clothes of you stick to things like fleece and merino wool.
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Check out MEC for merino or other wicking type undies. They have decent prices and good products. I've been using a pair from them for over 10 years and no complaints.
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yeah the other thing I was gonna say is get merino wool everything if you can. It's not absolutely necessary but I've found it kicks @$$ compared to everything else I've used.
x2 on the merino Stanfield long sleeve as well..
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I'm a convert to merino wool just don't put it in the dryer.
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Yeah merino is pretty killer stuff, wool is antibacterial as well so it won't stink up. Comfortable to sweat in and it'll keep you warm as it's drying. It especially shines for mulit-day backpacking use. The good stuff is the lightest weight, baselayer weights (150 gram). Expensive, but I think worth it.
I wouldn't bother with anything above that for merino, not even the 200 or 260 gram stuff, as fleece is cheaper and warmer in that area.
I"ve been really happy with the MEC Watchtower fleece pants:
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/PRD~5017-968/mec-watchtower-pants-mens.jsp (http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/PRD~5017-968/mec-watchtower-pants-mens.jsp)
and MEC Trek 4 jacket:
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/Tops/PRD~5022-813/mec-trek-4-jacket-mens.jsp (http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/Tops/PRD~5022-813/mec-trek-4-jacket-mens.jsp)
I like eVent fabric for waterproof breathable as well. Kind of the gold standard I'd say, though very expensive. As an alternative, the driducks ultralite 2 at $15 for jacket and pants is really effective for keeping you dry and it's very breathable, just not high fashion and a little fragile (nothing duct tape can't fix).
For waterproof breathable, down, any high performance fabric I use the ATSKO Sportwash and their water resistant re-proofer. $5 @ Walmart in the hunting section. Leaves zero residue and doesn't clog up the pores of the fabric. The re-proofer works really well too, bring back new life to old goretex jacket etc.
What do you guys do about your hands? That's one thing I can't seem to figure out. More something to keep my hands dry from the constant rain and drizzle. A bonus if it makes handling line and a reel easier.
Dry cold is pretty straight forward, it's the PNW freezing rain that gets me. Cold feet and hands are the only things that I can't tough it out through. Once that part is compromised, I'm done.
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I use wool fingerless gloves and keep a towel in my waders to keep them as dry as possible.
I have those watchtower pants as well and as much as I like them I can't support shopping at MEC anymore (another topic). Would rather have stuff made here in Canada..
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Yeah merino is pretty killer stuff, wool is antibacterial as well so it won't stink up. Comfortable to sweat in and it'll keep you warm as it's drying. It especially shines for mulit-day backpacking use. The good stuff is the lightest weight, baselayer weights (150 gram). Expensive, but I think worth it.
I wouldn't bother with anything above that for merino, not even the 200 or 260 gram stuff, as fleece is cheaper and warmer in that area.
I"ve been really happy with the MEC Watchtower fleece pants:
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/PRD~5017-968/mec-watchtower-pants-mens.jsp (http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/PRD~5017-968/mec-watchtower-pants-mens.jsp)
and MEC Trek 4 jacket:
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/Tops/PRD~5022-813/mec-trek-4-jacket-mens.jsp (http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/Tops/PRD~5022-813/mec-trek-4-jacket-mens.jsp)
I like eVent fabric for waterproof breathable as well. Kind of the gold standard I'd say, though very expensive. As an alternative, the driducks ultralite 2 at $15 for jacket and pants is really effective for keeping you dry and it's very breathable, just not high fashion and a little fragile (nothing duct tape can't fix).
What do you guys do about your hands? That's one thing I can't seem to figure out. More something to keep my hands dry from the constant rain and drizzle. A bonus if it makes handling line and a reel easier.
Dry cold is pretty straight forward, it's the PNW freezing rain that gets me. Cold feet and hands are the only things that I can't tough it out through. Once that part is compromised, I'm done.
I use the same MEC pants and love them.
As for gloves I use the wool fingerless as well for most of the time. MEC sells a pair for about 10 bucks that have seen me four years now and are still in great shape.
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/GlovesMitts/Gloves/PRD~4001-997/fox-river-fingerless-mid-weight-ragg-gloves-unisex.jsp
When it gets really cold I'll switch over to my neoprene gloves. A little more bulky and not as easy to manage running line with, but sometimes they're necessary.
Most of the winter I just keep the wool ones on and keep one of those handwarmers in the pocket