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Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: dobrolub on November 18, 2014, 08:35:38 PM

Title: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: dobrolub on November 18, 2014, 08:35:38 PM
A tip on my 9' #5 broke between last two guides. What's a better option to go with in your opinion?

1) Make the last section shorter by about 10 cm
2) Repair it using epoxy & fiberglass
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: Flytech on November 18, 2014, 08:38:34 PM
Buy a new rod if it's not warrantable.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: dobrolub on November 18, 2014, 09:01:04 PM
Already did, but want to repair the old one as well :)
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: RalphH on November 18, 2014, 09:26:19 PM
not sure what you mean by # 2. If you want to try & wrap with glass and resin forget it.  That will likely fold up fairly quickly, Blanks are rolled between machined rollers at high pressure. Heat melts and bonds the resin. Most repairs of that sort use a tapered graphite sleeve. Ask about that sort of repair on the rod building forum on this sort of others.

You can try with 4 inches of the top missing - usually a rod will be ok if the break is between the tip top and next guide - but 4 inches will make it much faster. It may make a #6 or even #7 rod.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: ajransom on November 19, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
A tip on my 9' #5 broke between last two guides. What's a better option to go with in your opinion?

1) Make the last section shorter by about 10 cm
2) Repair it using epoxy & fiberglass

What type of rod? Often you can contact the company and get a replacement section, even if its not under warrantee.

Having said that it might still be cheaper but buy a new rod, especially if its an old rod.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: dobrolub on November 19, 2014, 02:24:11 PM
That's a reddington classic trout. I'll ask the company. Thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: dobrolub on November 19, 2014, 02:25:37 PM
If you want to try & wrap with glass and resin forget it....Most repairs of that sort use a tapered graphite sleeve.
Thanks. Didn't know about the sleeves. Sounds like the way to go.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: typhoon on November 19, 2014, 04:29:48 PM
Removing 4 inches will make the rod slower, not faster.
It will make it slightly more powerful but mostly it will make it feel like a broomstick.
A sleeve repair that close to the tip will also ruin the action.
If you can't find a replacement section then you have a practice rod for thread wrapping.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: ajransom on November 23, 2014, 08:37:09 PM
Redington are pretty good from what I've heard. I have a couple of redington rods but have yet to break them so don't have first hand experience.

I have a 4 weight redington CT and like it. For the price of that rod and the potential costs of repair (don't even try to fix it yourself, and assuming that redington don't help your out), I'd hit the bullet and get a new rod. If you like a slower action trout rod ((like the CT), the new echo butter sticks feel amazing. Would love get my hands on a new glass rod!
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: ajransom on November 23, 2014, 08:37:59 PM
'Bite' NOT 'hit'....
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: Flytech on November 23, 2014, 08:56:06 PM
Removing 4 inches will make the rod slower, not faster.
It will make it slightly more powerful but mostly it will make it feel like a broomstick.


That's faster. Slower means more flexible and whippy. It would be faster, but not in a good way.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: Flytech on November 23, 2014, 08:57:41 PM
That's a reddington classic trout. I'll ask the company. Thanks for the suggestion.


If the rod is currently made, they'll be able to replace the portion for you. I broke a Redington Tempt 4 wt, and they were able to replace the section. Had to send in the broke piece, only took 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: typhoon on November 24, 2014, 06:43:37 AM

That's faster. Slower means more flexible and whippy. It would be faster, but not in a good way.

Have a read of the Common Cents System:
http://www.common-cents.info/

Action defines where the rod flexes under a given load.
A fast action rod flexes closer to the tip. If you cut off the tip the flex will move closer to the butt - hence slower action. It would also become more powerful, but power and action are entirely separate characteristics.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: Flytech on November 24, 2014, 08:48:25 AM
Have a read of the Common Cents System:
http://www.common-cents.info/ (http://www.common-cents.info/)

Action defines where the rod flexes under a given load.
A fast action rod flexes closer to the tip. If you cut off the tip the flex will move closer to the butt - hence slower action. It would also become more powerful, but power and action are entirely separate characteristics.


Ok fair enough.
Title: Re: Rod repair. Broken tip
Post by: ajransom on November 25, 2014, 12:02:34 PM

Ok fair enough.

Yeah, basically its gonna suck, either way....

Replace the section, or buy a new rod.